Is Zig Forums slowly turning left-wing?

It's crazy but I think the aut-right idiocy on Zig Forums is slowly dying down after Trump got elected. I see some people calling others racist for saying shit against black people. I see some people with ancom flags posting and not immediately getting shit for it. Don't get your hopes up, I don't expect Zig Forums to actually become socialists though. But I wonder if in 6 or so years Zig Forums will oppose conservatives and talk shit about the religious right and all. Whaddya think?

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Zig Forums has become too large and is now your typical boomer conservative hell hole. They even push fucking transhumanism

I dunno about that, I don't think they'll ever really flip on the racism or social stuff, but they do seem to become increasingly hostile towards capitalism and Americanism.

They sort of already do, it's just they believe even worse shit like fascism/nutsac.

4/pol/ will go back to being libertarians and generic conservatives within 2 years

No. If anything they will return to a somewhat libertarian standpoint with some ethnic fascism. Criticising boomers doesn't change that. They still believe that marxist = sjw, communism = jewish death machine, and socialism = gibbs.

I read the title as "is Zig Forums slowly turning left-wing?" and instantly I thought no

Well, Trump was their common denominator, since he has failed them, they seem to split into the basic bitch conservative/lolbert camp (4pol) or warming up to NazBol, Asserist ideas (8pol). From what I can tell, they seem to buy into this whole Hitler = socialist meme.

transhumanism isn't bad tho you fucking luddite

If anything it's the opposite lol

Everyone hating /ptg/ doesn't mean that they are even going anywhere close to the left. It's staying the same, and there's nothing that's going to stop Zig Forums from being right wing, thanks the FBI keeping a close watch on it.

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Gonna echo the "it's a conservative boomer hellhole now" guy. This means the organic 4Chan ebb'n'flow that led to the initial gamergate/Zig Forums shite isn't really going to happen. Those who were actual chantards may slowly realize how completely stupid they were to support a billionaire with Bushite-corporatist policy ideas, but with the embedded boomers/stormfags, I don't think it's gonna be like how chantards went from hating Bush to hating Obama (the latter actually took a long-ass time to peak, too) - the contrarianism is pretty much gone.

If that's the case they're likely to become Asserists, either that or it'll just boil down to the same libertarian bullshit we see. At best, it'll just turn into a bunch of sargonites. So long as they hold onto "muh western values" they'll just be a bunch of reactionary retards. On top of that, considering the fallout with the skeptics on fighting the alt right, there's still going to be "le red pilled race realist", and no matter how much evidence you lob at them, they'll just call it jewish or link to some alt-hype article which already uses the sources that you just debunked.

Given my experience, Zig Forums is an emotional creature and they'll shift the mood to whatever edgy bullshit that ""triggers the establishment""" which, in this case, still remains somewhat liberal, but still remain in favour of it.

I can in a sense see where you're coming from, as I'm seeing a shit-ton of grovelling from right-wingers towards leftypol recently because of how hard trump fucked up (launching missiles at Syria etc), but the problem with their proposed alliance is that the second the goal has been achieved we'll go back to shitposting at each other.

I wouldn't bother trying to influence the board, Zig Forums needs its lolcows.

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I want every retard that said "Zig Forums will go leftwing when being rightwing becomes mainstream" to kiss my asshole.>They sort of already do, it's just they believe even worse shit like fascism/nutsac.

it already has retardf

fascism and NutSac aren't inherently incompatible with leftism. They're certainly better allies than liberals

Wooow, because not using the word negro=leftwing.
What the fuck is happening of this board? It should be cis ☭TANKIE☭ only at this point tbh. It's the only way to avoid liberals and contrapoints fans

They are the most blatantly anti-left ideologies, they openly reject materialism as a core tenant of their views.

They only turned "anti-leftist" back in the 30's because the mainstream left made common cause with anarkiddies and the equivalent of SJWs of their day. They had no choice other than to bring aspects of the right, to unite people of all classes. Why do you think Mussolini and Mosley were so opposed to capitalism?

Also materialism isn't everything. If you weren't so dogmatic, you would know this.

lol wut
Implying the fbi isn't keeping an equally close watch on Zig Forums

implying anarkiddies aren't a better ally than fascists
you're memeing right?
ok you're memeing
Agreed tbh but defining your entire ideology in terms of spooky idealist concepts is just as dogmatic

Everyone who posts on Zig Forums is on a watchlist. 4chan is mostly just manipulated with a heavy hand.
If some serious shit goes down, it's likely that both everyone outside of /v/ and /tg/ posters will be hunted down by gestapo 2.0. I don't even think the Zig Forumsacks will be allowed in their new aryan republic. Knowing that fascists love purging the shit out of each other, I don't think they'll want actual genocidal racists who are anti-Israel these days. It's just not tenable to have them around when idiot boomers and boomers 2.0s are more preferred.

Wew

polacks won't be allowed in the white ethnostate because they are not white

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For the most part I was talking about 8pol. I think that is the ones where the whiter amerimutts hang out.

Zig Forumsyps are trying desperately to make that meme theirs.

Look up turd positionism. It's beyond left or right, and certainly anticapitalist

Christ, Zig Forumsyps really are psychotic.

sure they are, keep telling yourself
nobody but them even gives a shit and yet it's them who are the impurest most degenerate mutts around

yeah you would think that if you were a braindead member of this forum, totally indifferent to racism.

I ain't even from Zig Forums. It's a tedious board to go to. An amerimutt is an amerimutt. I know, I am one.

And in what way would portraying americans as racemixed monsters be leftist in the first place ?

dunno what you're talking about m8 but Zig Forums is predominantly beta losers who got bullied in high school, see minorities doing better than them and feel angry. they desperately want to fit in or be a part of something, the anonymous online community gives them a place to bond over their shared beta hatred for the people they think are responsible for their failures. if only

It demoralizes American reactionaries, which is always a good thing.

The basis of that demoralization is actually a reinforcement of racialism, though.

Are you a recovering fascist or something? Neither are good "allies", not now, nor then. Whereas liberals will call the cops on you, fascists will try and kill you over stupid shit like race or sex, in addition to heavily cooperating with the policee

Not sure about Zig Forums but a lot of my friends that were centrist liberals or leaning towards a positive view of the alt-right have shifted father to the left after Charlottesville and other right wing terrorist attacks. The one thing I think we need more of that the alt-right already has is a larger YouTube presence: almost EVERYONE uses YouTube and 90% of the people I know that use it heavily are right wing conspiracy theorists. A leftist YouTuber with a consistent pro-working class stance has a big potential for appeal if they avoid overt SJW or ☭TANKIE☭ rhetoric and aren't afraid to engage viewers with the same outspoken and unapologetic attitude that a lot of right wing content creators adopt.

OK, you are just a fascist then. I've already looked into turd positionism and based off just the Wikipedia description was appealing to me for about a month maximum when I was in middle school, before I realized that I was more likely to die forgotten in their glory-seeking wars that accomplish nothing worthwhile. And that's without even getting into the idiotic race stuff.

"First world burgertards"
"Turning left wing"
No.

Fascists are our biggest enemies. There is absolutely no question about that. They defend the class system as part of the "natural order" for the same reasons they defend racial hierarchies.
People are more likely to shift from center to the far-left than from the far-right to the far-left. Your average Zig Forumsack is too brainwashed by Cultural Marxist conspiracy theories to recognize the failures of modern capitalist neoliberalism without blaming it on DA JOOS. I know very few liberals that actually defend capitalism per se, most of them have just been hoodwinked by anti-USSR propaganda. If more of them can be won on the economic axis, I think socialism would get a lot more supporters.

The sad thing is, we have no idea which is which: whether they are shitposting or not
On the other hand, picrelated are real human beings

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Many of 4chan's Zig Forums users don't actually take themselfs or the board seriously, they just act in a controversial way because it is humorous for them and they find it funny.

They will go against whatever most people are because they find it funny.
They don't truly praise hitler or believe he actually did nothing wrong (excluding the ocassional stormfag), it is just the edgy kind of humour they like.

It is true however that during the elections, and for a few months afterwards, it became infested with alt-righters that had just found out about Zig Forums and didn't understand its sense of humour.

Looking back at the He will not Divide us Streams it seem many are just shipposting.