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The Holodomor
Famine was not uncommon in Russia or any of its surrounding countries, historically it was common. The collectivization was done to mitigate famine as the Kulaks, as had been experienced before in the 1921–22, refused to sell their grain (grain which they had not grown themselves) affordably or distribute it to the more urban industrial centers who could not grow grain themselves. Last time when the government stepped in to seize the grain due to mass starvation, the Kulaks began destroying it rather then see people not starve. When the Soviets decided that the only option was to seize the farms at that point, the Kulaks began killing their livestock as well. What Stalin did with collectivization was a preemtive measure to prevent this and it probably ended up saving lives that would have otherwise been lost. It also doesn't make sense for Stalin to have purposely starved the location of Ukraine that was hit hardest as that area was the most Pro-Stalin.
It was largely a failure of the Soviet command economy, which was too monolithic and bureaucratic to handle difficult situations. There is no evidence that it was intentional. This is mainly claimed by Ukrainian nationalists that think everyone cares about their ethnic group as they do, and American neocons that think leftist government is literally Satan.
Funnily enough, for some reason, americans reconize it as a crime of stalin but not a genocide
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Nationalists are hypocrites that willingly abuse political correctness whenever it conveniences them. This is much harder to do with any real efficacy in the US.
Goddammit Canada
Isn't there a huge Ukrainian diaspora living there? Might explain some of it
Yeah, I believe so. fucking kulaks
The American Communists bullied them out of Chicago