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How does it feel to know that the only form of communism to ever work is Socialism with Chinese characteristics. I'm living comfy on my /ding/bucks.

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I don't consider it successful, but promising.

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Only in PPP terms which is a bit meme-worthy and not very significant as far as international trade and global capitalism goes.

Of course, the Chinese could drop various tariff walls and revalue their currency and have the largest economy overnight but the consequence might be economic disaster.

PPP is what matters for the working man. I don't give a fuck what the non PPP is if I cant afford rent.

State capitalism is not socialism.

Good thing China is not capitalism then.

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But did it work for the workers though?

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Socialism is when billionaires buy up land in third world countries but do it with a red flag all the while poor farmers drink water from irradiated green river water and American companies put up suicide nets.

Will Zig Forums critically support the Australian and Canadian governments/people in it's war against Chinese capitalistic housing market and natural resources exploitation.

t.man who's seen the biggest farms in the land sold off to China and workers on those farm either fired or made to do things which harm the environment for quick profits.

A socialist country does not stop its citizens from buying things in other countries with what they have earned. If the Chinese wish to buy houses that is their business.

China is in some ways more capitalist than the USA. Having privately owned industry that's not owned by the workers=capitalism.

Socialism is when you exploit other countries workers and their environment by letting literal billionaires buy capitalistic business overseas which also allows them to hide wealth therefore increasing their wealth even more while peasant farmers live in irradiated river systems. Just remember It's not exploitation when capitalists in "socialist" countries do it to other countries with less global power projection.

People owning things is not what makes something capitalist. All industry in China is bound to social necessity at the oversight of the peoples representatives.

Provide any source for this at all.

People owning things is not what makes something capitalist. All industry in Europe is bound to social necessity at the oversight of the government.
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European governments have substantially less influence. They can barely control Google. In China where is Google?

npr.org/sections/thesalt/2017/06/20/532915180/why-is-china-snatching-up-australian-farmland

abc.net.au/news/rural/2017-10-03/china-raises-interest-in-australian-farmland-to-record-level/9012262

smh.com.au/business/chinese-ownership-of-australian-farmland-rises-american-ownership-falls-20170929-gyrmam.html

A quarter of one of our states agricultural land is entirely owned by China, I work farms and I can tell you the Chinese are absolutely insane over Dairy and nut products. I literally live in a place where all the farms around me are Chinese owned, these Chinese companies do not give a shit about their employees and even less about the environment since they buy way cheaper fertilizers and more harmful chemicals for quick profit.

Let alone the housing situation, maybe if the Chinese were at-least some kind of fucking working socialism, like USSR's "economic imperialism" didn't really exist too that great a extend but Chinese capitalists shit all over my country and hundreds of thousands of homeless and young Australian people cannot afford houses one primary reason being China buying fucking everything and landlords who can raise rent to insane prices because of China. Australia's stuck being a fucking slave to American corporations or Chinese ones which work identically for all purposes digging up shit from the ground using worker labor to empower billion and millionaires back home in China. If a Communist Australia ever happens it's going to be opposed to China for what it's capitalists are doing to the place.

abc.net.au/news/2017-08-31/chinese-property-investment-starts-to-cool/8858866

abc.net.au/news/2017-03-24/why-chinese-investors-keep-buying-australian-property/8385174

When operating in a Capitalist country of course socialists will follow the rules of capitalism.

Socialism is when you reap surplus profit from capitalist nations all the while destroying their local environments to empower your own capitalist class comprised of billionaires but it's okay cause they larp as Communists.


It's okay when China does it! I would unironically rather American corporations then Chinese ones since American ones actually treat the land better then what the Chinese are doing.

China is capitalist, when their socialist then I will excuse using capitalistic measures in other countries, but at the moment their just another Capitalist reaping up Australian resources.

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If American countries operate in China they must follow Socialism. When Chinese companies operate in America they must follow Capitalism.

*If American companies

Call me back when China is actually socialist doing this for the betterment of Socialism and not billionaires or a capitalistic class.

This is the Marxist dynamic in action folks. The first world striking down and the second and third.

FFS they are socialist. They just don't practice socialism is capitalist countries. You think you can just enter a capitalist society and play by the normal rules of socialism?

Feudalism -→ Capitalism (this is where China is) –→ Socialism

You cannot achieve socialism in a 3rd world agrarian society. You need developed material conditions for socialism to succeed.

The EU fined Google for over 2 billion.
Are you seriously arguing that a government having more influence over the private sector makes a country socialist?


Socialism is when you have literal billionaires and the more billionaires you have the more socialist it is.
Revisionist MLs should be fucking put down like the retards they are.

I don't like the term "Dengism" Deng Xiaoping just analyzed Chinas economy and realised they need to develop their productive forces so they can build a stable socialist state

To quote the Constitution of the CPC,

The CPC doesn't treat Deng Xiaoping Theory the same way the DPRK treats Juche (or, for that matter, the CPC under Mao treated Mao Zedong Thought.) The very phrase "socialism with Chinese characteristics" implies that it is a path that the CPC is pursuing based on conditions in China, and Deng himself advised foreign leaders to study their own country's conditions rather than imitating the road followed by other socialist states.

Glad that China isn't Capitalist

it is socialist
While China has Markets and a private sector, it still has the key industries under their control and that is the control of the communist party, I'll mind you.
But you might ask.
You see, the Chinese State is controlled by Workers and farmers. They make up the most part of the CPCh.
While China has markets, they do have five year plans that aim at providing a better life for the people and forming China into a well off prosperous socialist nation.
China has lifted, in the last 30 years, 600 Million out of poverty. Poverty
population has averagely decreased 22.29 million per year. The Income average of each Chinese rises faster than the GDP with 7%
Yes, China also has income equality.China allowed inequality to grow but stopped the drift to unfairness at the start of the 21st century., whereas it has carried on despite the Crisis in the West
The Bourgeoisie in China exists, yes, but they need to obey to the Communist party and need to follow their rules. The Economy isn't your typical western Market economy, it is a socialist Market economy.
The left wing in the CPC is pushing through
with hu jinato and Xi Jinping. They've fought and continue the fight against Jiang Zemin and his followers.
Till 2050 China plans to be a socialist Nation and till 2021 China will be poverty free.

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nytimes.com/2017/10/23/world/asia/china-xi-business-entrepreneurs.html

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All Land in China is owned by the State

and 50% of the Economy are SOEs

and the other Private Companies get controlled by the CPCh btw

Overall, China's SOEs include the world's largest (or near top)

-Telecom

-Energy co

-Bank

-Infrastructure co

-Rail co

-Metals co

-Shipping co

-Mobile telecom

-Auto companies

four of the world's largest banks are Chinese SOEs. This is an essential mechanism the state uses to control the entire Chinese economy, state and private.

Chinas Private Buisinesses are mostly small the Industries that are the backbone of a economy are owned by the State

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nytimes.com/2017/10/23/world/asia/china-xi-business-entrepreneurs.html

one of the favourite claims of western "socialists" against China. You see, the Capitalist US bombs the Middle east, claims it is for the "fight against terror" , claims Land and extracts valuable resources from their Land. China, on the other hand, builds Schools,advances the infrastructure, fights malaria,creates Jobs etc. Africa gets a sharehold of China's SOES. So China advances their Enconomy and advances Africas Economy. China is helping Africa to develop not exploiting them.

qz.com/1168130/africa-is-changing-china-as-much-as-china-is-changing-africa/

greanvillepost.com/2015/05/06/russia-and-china-are-not-imperialist/

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The Anarchkiddie cries about revisionism


and btw there where Millionaires in the USSR under Stalin cominternist.blogspot.com/2010/06/soviet-millionaires.html

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Socialism is when the workers own the means of production, not when bourgeois and the state owns the means of production. Having the Bourgeois at all makes me question if you know what communism is at all. What China has is known as state capitalism, just like Venezuela.

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First two: During Mao.

Last: After Deng

That workers wages are sinking is litterally a lie and that Maoist book clubs would be looked at as "counter revolutionaries" is pretty ironic when China theirselves mandate Marxism courses in Universities and in the CPCh

nice sources fag

You need sources for trivially searchable facts?

So did the British in South Africa. They built infrastructure,fought disease and created jobs.
Yeah porky Africans not the ones digging out the minerals. Same with the British still British people in South Africa got profits for selling to the imperialist power. China's just continuing capitalism of the worst kind in Africa
White mans burden tier post, the Chinese are in the favorable position and have the most to gain from the vast resources, Africa on the other hands gets some roads to improve the resource extraction using slave labor.

I guarantee if this was the French you'll be speaking out about this neo-colonization and resource grabbing from Africa but it's okay when China hires cheap slave labor from African countries to dig out minerals cause they build roads and hospitals :)

Here

foreignpolicy.com/2018/04/18/the-chinese-communist-party-is-setting-up-cells-at-universities-across-america-china-students-beijing-surveillance/

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The difference is that the French are capitalists even in France. Of course the Chinese have to play by the rules of capitalism when working in capitalist countries.