What happens to the retarded under socialism?

What happens to the retarded under socialism?
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I assume most would genetically test for it.

Isn't throwing people away because of money a really "kikey" thing to do?

They run around and laugh at stupid shit.

They get put in charge of agricultural production.

LOL SOCIALISM BTFO

Is voluntary eugenics socialist?

Well I mean most people here support abortion so….

Theyll get treated with dignity like everyone else once everyone isnt in a fierce competition for survival trying to put each other down.

They will be humanely euthanized. The New Communist Man has no time for babysitting retards.

Fuck off, that's exactly what we have time for.

We will cure them

put them down, its for the best

But what will they provide according to their ability?

Nothing?

The existing ones with genetic disabilities will be humanely sterilized, the rest will not. Future tards will not be born in the first place, therefore no inhumane treatment of tards.

Rehabilitation, treatment or euthanasia.

Helped so as to live independently as much as possible within their abilities

They will be taken care of and respected, ignore any reactionary that tells you otherwise.

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there is a very simple answer for this: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"

They'll be cared for by the people around them. We can't leave that responsibility to their family or to dedicated institutions, those options don't work well. Instead we need more communitarian living environments where they can be looked after by the whole of the community. That way no one is individually burdened by them and there's no risk of them getting socially isolated. In return they'll do some light gardening or something. It'll be great.

Voluntary abortion and euthanasia will very likely be available.

What happens to them under capitalism

they start posting on Zig Forums at 15 and get internet brain problems and cant stop until theyre 55

you mean 25 dubs.

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generally there is free health care for that
in case of diagnosed terminal bourgeois retardation in all its forms there should be euthanasia

This. They are pure burden. Every retard should be aborted or removed at birth. Atleast the ones with the mental ability of a potato

while i do disagree i have respect for promoting ideas you believe are right even when they're against your own self interest and survival even

Then why are you still here?

We send 'em back to Zig Forums.

lmao

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ITT edgelords indistinguishable from Zig Forumstards

I told you about accommodating retards, dawg.

Depends on how retarded they are. I work at a retard ranch and wrangle them daily, they are literally subhuman and most of them are irredeemable. In truth, the biggest issue is the system being shitty, the place I work at is a state funded care center but the private ones are in even worse conditions from what I heard.

The problems begin at home from the irresponsibility of the parents, they're unprepared and most of them give up and throw them into the system, the few that keep their semi-human spawns as pets coddle and spoil them, which causes problems when they enter a new system as adults. They spend their young years in school in a retard designated class, but given how shitty schools are what happens in practice is that they're let loose to the playing ground for 12 years because no one can bear to suffer their sperging. In the system, most of their handlers (like me) are untrained, unqualified, temporary employees that got picked off the street because of desperation for workforce. The biggest fucking problem, however, is that there is no consistency with their care. Some place lets them laze around for 12 hours a day on pillows for 3 years, some place gives them "work" (repetitive pointless tasks like screwing and unscrewing screws, or little hobbies like coloring, etc), almost no meaningful records are fucking kept so you can't even treat them effectively. One of the tards is in the system for 22 years since he was 8 years old and they still didn't manage to teach him table manners, like what the fuck were they doing this entire time? Why is it that his new handler needs to learn all the ins and outs of this literal moron when there should be a well documented file on him? Retards taking care of retards, this is what the current system is.

Some get better to some degree, but most continue to live as livestock, frolicking and sperging, going to sleep only to wake up and start the hellish cycle of their inarticulate madness all over again without reason in sight. The only reason these creatures are kept alive is because of the petty humanism of our society. Call me edgy I don't care, but once you see this shit and how severe it is you'd support euthanasia in a heartbeat. Those that are only mildly retarded and get the right very, very long treatment are absorbed into the capitalist system and join the rat race to live a vapid existence embroiled in pop culture and the latest trends.

What SHOULD be done is to give every tard a personal social worker with real training and a serious degree that deals with medicine, neurology, psychology, even philosophy of consciousness, instead of a fucking 18-year-old looking for a temporary job overlooking retards or a failed sociology major that comes to teach music to the few functional ones. The parents, if they wish to continue to care for it need to go through training and learning, and the personal worker should still be attached and overlook the child's progress so it may even become a person one day. There should be record keeping, there should be also inquiry into their condition, because right now the handlers don't actually know what happened to any of them - it could have been a lack of oxygen at birth, it could have been brain damage, it could have been retardation or autism, it could have been so many fucking things but no one knows what or how to investigate it, it's all guesswork - "you talk like a fag, and your shit's all retarded" is about the best analysis that is given on any of the retards by the supposed experts at the facility. Also they should be used in experimental neurology since they're not really using their brain anyway, but no, because we're such a humane society let's just keep them on life support to live a pointless life filled with rage and and outbursts by pumping thousands of dollars to these low-functioning retards (while actual humans, mostly children, with potential are starving on the streets and in low-income homes).

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People who are truly useless are rare enough that getting rid of them is not even remotely worth the time. In an economy of abundance and sustainability, caring for them will be trivial. Killing people off is also a pretty horrible idea when proles need to trust us if we want our ideas in government.

The fascists' habit of spontaneous mass murder is not merely a result of the Nazis' Social Darwinist pseudoscience and mysticism, it is capitalism defending itself by getting rid of the people it has failed.

If this is what you are thinking about disabled people you should go to Zig Forums and leave this place. Scum like you deserve the bullet right after the bourgs the lolberts, the fashists and the libs ayncraps and jihadists had there fair share. You are only valueing them this badly because you see them as less/not productive compared to normal people, like a bourg whould do with his wageslaves. Only because you see them as unproductive, you deniy them their humanity. This is capitalist mentality at its peak!

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Sounds familiar.

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And so it begins. The retards from Zig Forums determining what to do with themselves

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even just social democracies are already doing better with them
this issue isn't even one worth spending much time on, most of the solutions you already mentioned
really no need for angry posting like that over people that in 99 % and more of all cases have no fault in being born into that shit

It's ok Hoochie, I'd keep you as a pet retard so no need to worry.

What are you going to do? Shoot up a school? Run people over? Complain about ISIS killing people by shooting them and running them over?

Becoming neocon teenagers nobody fucks?

Because they'll fuck me. They couldn't even fuck him. What is wrong with you people that you repulse everyone to the point of becoming your very own muslims

14/88 wonder why the white race is dying

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It's not really ideological, it's an empathy gap. Relating with people with serious mental deficiencies can be hard, it's not like how Zig Forumsacks think people of different races lack cognition.

Hoochie, you're embarrassing yourself. I'm not even Zig Forums and you clearly didn't read my post because I didn't advocate for killing them (although the severe cases and those that are already too old to be treated properly should be euthanized for their sake). If you think there's any point whatsoever, that is, even for the mindless retard himself, to keep him alive, then you might as ridicule terminal cancer patients for wanting euthanasia.

You really have no idea how bad the situation is.

Hoochie, you're embarrassing yourself. I'm not even Zig Forums and you clearly didn't read my post because I didn't advocate for killing them (although the severe cases and those that are already too old to be treated properly should be euthanized for their sake). If you think there's any point whatsoever, that is, even for the mindless retard himself, to keep him alive, then you might as ridicule terminal cancer patients for wanting euthanasia.

You really have no idea how bad the situation is.

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I take that back, not even the severe cases should be killed. They have their brains experimented upon because there really is nothing to lose and a chance to find some treatment.

I'm curious why you lumped me in with the rest here. I'm in favour of giving these people as dignified a life as possible. That will most likely revolve around letting them run around and laugh at stupid shit. We don't need everyone to work, so stop focing it on the incapable.

What the flying heck can cross one's mind when merging the confederate flag and the Smurfs?

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I take that back, not even the severe cases should be killed. They have their brains experimented upon because there really is nothing to lose and a chance to find some treatment.

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Agreed. If it weren't for capitalism and all it's limitations stem cells and genetic modification would have used already to reverse being challenged.

Ok, so what would you propose then? Do you even a remote idea of what the situation is?

Was an accident. That happens if Im pissed dont take it personal.

There is nothing wrong with not beeing able to relate to people. But denying them their humanity because you see them as unroductive or a burden to society is something different. This is especially the case since they didnt choose to be this way.

Here´s a free you for you comrade you saw trough this ideology

They will live with me, and I will take care of them and love them as if they are my own brothers and sisters

You say that now, but tomorrow you will wake up with poop smeared all over your bedroom door, they will all collectively cum into an empty 2 liter and pour it in your toaster.

There is literally nothing wrong with sterilizing tards and preventing future tards from coming into being. The ones that are currently alive can still live, feel, and die like the rest of us, but no unnecessary suffering will be experienced by future tards who never came into existence in the first place. Abortion also isn't murder until the baby is conscious. Moralfags are literally reactionaries.

You can make a case that severely mentally deficient people lack an aspect of humanity. To take part in Reason is what it means to be human, not just trivially to have human biology.

Is it wrong that I think voluntary sterilization for the retarded is a good idea? I mean, they wouldn't be responsible enough to take care of a child in the first place, leave the decision to their caretaker I say.

No. Only pro-life catholic reactionaries will disagree.

Euthanized or aborted. It's a drain on society at large and a poor quality of life

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The right to die is voluntary. What you're describing is not.

Wow my argument has been btfo

Retarded people still have the ability to do basic tasks. Not all labor is skilled labor

Wasn't even a fucking argument.
dropped and kicked. It's a thing incomprehensible and incoherent.

Ceasing to feed the brain dead is murder, then? They cannot volunteer either.

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No they're right, if you get rid of Zig Forums, a majority of the world's problems would go away. Look at how stupid this man is

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What's so crypto about their autism, they don't need to hide it

I am here specifically to get away from reddit but I really wish there was a way to upvote posts sometimes
Like at least if it did not change the order in which posts were seen and thus generate a hivemind it would be great on here

There's already a place for that, the name is Zig Forums, it's game is hell

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Imagine baking a cake you actually put effort into for anyone in a discord group. Is this the retardation we are speaking of, or is it the autism?

What is to be done with the cake fag

everyone, hang this post on your wall to remind you why newfags are the lowest form of subhuman.

I was just saying it would be nice to have a way to express my approval without writing a comment that nobody really wants to read

Why is right wing drama so fucking autisticly cut throat and yet they call everyone else broken and claim each other as "volk" when clearly in any given situation alone with one another heads would roll

Makes one think

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Why do I feel this incredible sorrow when I look at them? Is it the fact that I subconsciously know what “could of been” in regards to their life, or is it that I’m seeing a twisted version of a human? It was things like this that drove me into atheism, because I refuse to believe any god would allow a universe this unjust.

Because you understand you're just as hopeless and probably twice as retarded, like this Zig Forumsish lad, who thought the police who arrested the white polo wearing retards (you) were actually secret freemasons acting in coordination with the jews

And not just American cops. You're right actually, fuck, now I do feel sorrow for you retards

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Mad_MAX_Wolf is a fucking xbox live gamertag straight out of 2006 oh these people never get fucking old

Why did he even capitalize max and why add the wolf

Who are you and why are you so butthurt about this thread? Perhaps one of your family members is mentally handicapped, and you can't bear to try thinking about his actual role in society, rather than looking at him/her with pity and remorse for the life they were born into? Until you get over this remorse, you are not worth anything to this discussion. Calling other communists fascists for merely suggesting that mentally handicapped people should not be born just to suffer is emotion-based, rather than logic-based, behavior at best, and reactionary at worst. Stop posting pictures of autistic R*ghtoid cucks and start posting your own arguments as to why exactly genetically predisposed retarded people should be allowed to give life to more people who will suffer just like them, or stop posting at all. We do not care for spooky morality.

Nothing screams mental health more than you and these people who have many opinions about mental health

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Good job, i have really changed my opinion of mentally handicapped people.

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No I'm just saying you are what you eat.

Retard ass

Literally who was suggesting retarded people be killed ITT? The most spooky suggestion, iirc, was sterilization (which for the retarded, is basically just causing boys to not create sperm and girls to not create eggs)

Good point. It really makes me think about the material conditions which mentally handicapped people are subject to every day because of the funding given to the public and private organizations who take care of them on a daily basis.

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Because they're online and separated from each other in their own safe spaces.

TO EACH ACCORDING TO HIS NEED
This shit ain't hard, people. We take care of them and let them keep pretending on Zig Forums.

Retards cannot work, so they must rely on the labor of others. However, nobody is entitled to anyone elses body or labor, therefore, it is right for the retard to be poor.

Are you a mentally retarded vegetable who cant even bag groceries? Off to the streets with you. Completely physically degenerate and unable to even leave the bed? Bed you shall stay, until next week at most. Socially retarded? Better get use to dying alone, since you are not

ENTITLED

to the mental, emotional and social labor of others. Under socialism, we shall have no man made hierarchies, only natural ones. The dream of Marx will be made real!

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Oy vey you found me out kraut-hater

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/thread
Mein Gott, this is the single worst thread this year.

Socialism is not an ideology that dictates who gets exactly what, and what role they play in society. The only thing you can really comment on are the biases inherent in the capitalist mode of production, and how a socialist mode of production would negate those or introduce new biases.

The question that concerns me more than whether or not retards should be bred out of existence, is how this will happen and the prevailing attitudes towards the retarded. Reading this thread, the pro-exterminists can only be interpreted as taking a perverse pleasure in the extermination of the unwanted, as an end unto itself, in order to justify their position within society and their status as humans. You don't need to bitch and moan about how horrible it is to work with retarded people, how much of an affront it is to your own sensibilities. I don't believe either that, in the grand scheme of things, feeding and housing the retarded would be that great an expense to society. It might be cruel to force them into facilities and feed them just enough to stay alive, but talking to would-be social engineers they act like it is a terrible burden and cry like it's the end of the world that unclean people exist. Jesus Fucking Christ.

Since I would be considered part of that "retard" camp, and I faced being thrown into a facility for the rest of my life with no hope and no end, I have pretty strong opinions about the matter, but I don't believe necessarily in a blanket "retards are people too", like the condition is something that should be glossed over and ignored due to ideological commitments. In many ways, retards are not people like a normie is a person. In many ways, even though I learned how to speak (albeit with an impediment that outs me as a legal subhuman should I speak out) and write, I am not a person like a normie is a person. I certainly would be a fool to believe that a normie, especially one steeped in the eugenist ideology that prevails today, will ever be able to see me as an equal, and I don't even want to be equal to them. I only tolerate living in society with them because I have no choice, and if an institutionalized retard did have the ability to think, they would have every reason to howl bloody murder at how they have been treated and they should hate human society as it stands today. To do otherwise is to lay down and accept more beatings, humiliation, and a nightmare.

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Only sane comment in this thread.