Kanye West returns to twitter and praises Trump

I mean he's criticized capitalism a few times on Twitter.

OH NO NO NO NO….

WHY ARE POC TURNING ON US LEFTISTS? WHYYYY?

Zig Forumseddit will consider Kanye to be a "based black man" now.

And he criticized consumerism and mass media culture in yeezus. Then he married kim kardashian, do you think he knows what he's doing?

kendrick lamar >>>>>>>>>>> kanye

he's a bipolar hypocritical retard
he criticizes capitalists all the time and yet he's a huge porky himself, selling $1000 shoes and saying how he wants to make the world a better place… with the help of fucking Zuckerberg. he's completely insane

You're probably right. He called into a radio station 2 days ago and said he used to struggle with opiate addiction and felt Obama didn't do enough.

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I don't think there was any bad blood between him and Obama. They squashed the beef after that one time Obama called him a jackass.

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Kendrick is a fantastic rapper. Absolute top tier. As a complete """artist""" I don't think he's near kanye though.

arguably the worst thing to come out of this though…

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Kanye has been boring since MBDTF, change my mind.

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Kendrick is a great lyricists, but kanye shits on him musically. And music is about that

Yeezus was cool as fuck, it was kanye's take on death grips and it worked. Some of his best tunes on there.
TLOP is good, but i don't know why.

I could almost understand you feeling that way about TLOP but cmon, yeezus was far from boring.

Yeezus is decent, but it just makes me want to listen to Death Grips instead by the time I get to Hold My Liquor.

The two seconds I've heard of him were shit lyrically.

Imo Kanye is just a good producer while Kendrick has even better production (albeit not entirely his own work) and is a better rapper.
If we're talking /mu/core hip hop though, pic related is where it's at

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I like the cleaner take of kanye too tbh. It's not as chaotic and abrasive but I like how can he make some awesome tunes and at the same time be minimalist and hold my liquor is my favorite song on there.

Is there anything more obnoxious?

Kanye is black as fuck, why does Garrison only draw lightskinned blacks?

The only rap I listen to is Kanye, death grips, saul williams, Public enemy and bestie boys. Mf doom never clicked.

Btw Saul williams is a must if there are any NIN fags in here.
youtu.be/wkxUi-J3INU
Trent produced his best album

He's good, Sing About Me is a great track. Really hits home.

Kanye hasn't self produced in years, he relies on a team of producers just like Kendrick and Thundercat and Flylo are just as good as the people Kanye brings in.

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Go back to Zig Forums

how the fuck is kanye oppressed? he comes from a middle class background and is now a millionaire artist married to a millionaire socialite
his mother was a professor

He's poc

The guy is right tho. Kendrick is even more insane. He thinks he's a white Israelite
google.it/amp/s/genius.com/a/inside-the-hebrew-israelite-movement-that-s-inspiring-kendrick-lamar-kodak-black

Meh.

He's right tbh even if he is Zig Forums Kendrick is literally we wuz kangz.

My point is black people aren't oppressed and thinking that they are and they'll help us is stupid.

Liberals ladies and gentlemen. Where hilary Clinton is oppressed as Irina slave traded from bosnia and Kanye west is as oppressed as Muna the child soldier from congo.

U mad that only liberals listen to Lamar? One of my liberal college professors literally told me that when he listens to Lamar it helps understand what marginalized inner city youth go through.

im actually not Zig Forums

He's not right at all.
Is retarded. You're probably Zig Forums as well.

Anyway "meh" isn't a critique of Kendrick's output.

You have any statistics on this? Your anecdotes don't count for shit.

Kanye is still oppressed because he's black, doesn't matter if he has money. He still more likely to be shot by the police because no he's poc

Even if you were you'd be right Kendrick is a shit tier rapper who's only garnered any popularity because black people need to support their own people.
"MmmHMMmmmm dem crackaz dun be puttin us down we need to listen n only talk to otha brothas, to support our own people."

Hmm I wonder who could be behind this one.

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It's painfully obvious where you're from friend, go back. If Kendrick is so shit who do you think is a better rapper? You haven't actually made any critiques you're just parroting the diarrhea Zig Forums spews about Kendrick's music without actually listening to it.

>>>/reddit/
You are a liberal

Stop calling everything Zig Forums you stupid fuck. Kendrick is liberal tier, not in the way stupid sprudo poster described but he still suck

I listened to Kendrick, he was nowhere near as good as you said.
As is where you're from, go back to /r/BlackNationalism.
Here are a few better rappers.
I can name some more if you want.

Not an argument, crypto fash
>>>Zig Forums

Fuck you too.

So be clear: What are your problems with him. Be specific, going "meh" isn't a strong critique by any means. This is what Zig Forums plasters all over /mu/ about Kendrick.

I get nauseous everytime people make claims like this

Even ignoring any sort of cultural bias this is stupid and wrong. Black people compose an enormous portion of the poorest of the proletariat. This is one of your dumbest posts yet.

Nice evasion but you can't change the fact that's what Kendrick literally believes and not even just in a "here's my opinion" sense but in a religious sense. It's all over his latest music and videos– since you're such a fan you might have noticed that there's one non-black person in the Humble music video…wonder why that is? The reason is that if he didn't put have at least one person of a different race in his videos he would have broken his record company's policy on non-discrimination.

You can like what the fuck you want, but please stop masturbating over your own obscure™ music taste, also I suppose the song you tried was king kunta or some shit, at least give this one a try: youtube.com/watch?v=4wZytWFm7x0

Like I said let's be real here even if it's Zig Forums running a slander campaign on Kendrick they're literally right, it's undeniable Kendrick is a Black Israelite promoter big with white liberals and black nationalists, Genius is an actual source for music news.
Because you and millions of other people overrate him. He's meh like I said he doesn't click with me, he's fine but get off his dick goddamn.

They also compose a large amount of the bourgeoisie and petite bourg. Almost every black person I've seen in my ghetto is richer than me and I'm the whitest cracker you'll see in my state, they're way more racist too.

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I think Kanye is just a better all around guy. Like the complete package. The production, rap, music videos, stage presence. I mean look at his tour stages, music videos (especially the MBDTF short film), the clothing, everything. He's an artist in the purist sense. You can argue that those aren't things he directly created be it directors, stage designers, etc etc. but to have that taste and ambition is definitely not something that's common with most musicians. The only rapper I can think that even has ambitions and attempts stuff close to Ye is Tyler the Creator. I don't care for him but he's doing a lot more and putting in a lot more effort than most mainstream artists.

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There's nothing obscure about Geto boys and Pac like this guy points out
(thanks btw)
Retard.

as you're pointing out yourself that's not Kendrick's personal fault, I doubt he would be behind that retarded decision

i'm referring to
also your self congratulatory posts in general

that's literally ALL rap music tbh

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I personally don't like rap. I listen only to kanye, death grips, beastie boys, saul williams and public enemy and all of them mostly for the production with the exception of public enemy. Kendrick production is mediocre, his lyrics are liberal tier. There is none of the merciless rage, the cultural importance, the intensity or the attitude of public enemy. Kendrick is just a product, I don't feel like a guy who grew up in the getto is rapping but a guy who fell for the bourgeoisie moralism meme. He's to safe, to friendly even if he tries hard not too. Public enemy were inspired by the nation of islam and malcom x while kendrick is inspired by memes. We wuz black Israeli, we wuz and we wuz. Public enemy talked about a situation that was present in that moment and never tired to dramatize too much. Kendrick is too soapy. Public enemy were worried about their communities, kendrick is worried about the perception of blacks in the bourgeoisie hierarchy without citicizing the hierarchy its self

What the fuck is that supposed to mean?
None of what I mentioned was obscure not even fucking Witchdoctor or Disco Rick. Have you even gone beyond surface level rap?

No just most of it.

They're not and Che was a racist you jackass.

Read the faq you stupid fuck. Your reasoning is not accepted in here. Never was and never will. You are spouting liberl talking points

But Kendrick didn't say to put white people back on slave ships, a lot of his music is also a critique on the ghetto culture of Compton which he grew up in. TPAB makes more systemic critiques, like about the exploitation of African American culture by the music industry or police brutality. But this is a huge meme which has no grounding in his music. Yes, he's Afrocentric but his musical output is still solid. Wagner was a proto-nazi, are his symphonies shit because he had bad politics?

So what I'm getting from you is "I can't actually articulate why I dislike him and why he's in some objective sense overrated but I just want to be contrarian".

okay

Overrated is still overrated even if you don't want to admit it fanboy.

Seriously what the fuck has this thread turned into

So do you have examples of this?

that's exactly the problem though. I think hip hop sounds nice but the reason i stopped listening to it is because a lot of the subtext is the worst kind of nutty afrocentrist and black muslim ideas imaginable. even MF Doom believes in this shit, just listen to his early hip hop group KMD (which sounds great but the lyrics are full of this cringey rhetoric)

Except you can't even articulate why you think that, so you come off contrarian. Sorry.

t. heard gucci gang on the radio once
listen to some of the stuff in these charts

literally a quote from your own post you absolute fucking brainlet

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His music has nothing special about it beyond you liking it. Tell you what show me the artistry in Kendricks music tell me exactly why he's the Messiah of Yaweh and his music is a new book in the Torah.

please explain how you simultaneously maintain the stance that black people aren't oppressed and that you aren't a racist.

I meant that in relativity to other artists, they're still known by millions, if you only listen to Kendrick you wouldn't know them.

update tweet. if only he was near leftists who could slide him a red book or two.

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I've listened to almost all of that. I used to browse /mu/ and i uploaded shit tons of hip hop albums for people there to download on there 5 years ago.

Define oppressed in relation to group.
I said blacks are extremely racist and that supporting them out of the false notion that they're oppressed wouldn't work out for communist revolution.

But I haven't made any of those claims have I? He has really solid production on both GKMC and TPAB. TPAB especially since he got the top guys in Jazzhop to back him up. He's an expressive and catchy rapper who's able to make bangers which simultaneously double as social commentary (Swimming Pools is a good example). Now explain why you're objectively right?

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How is that not his fault? He literally wanted to make an all-black video and it was only company policy that prevented him. If he had wanted to make a video that was nearly all white bitches in bikinis getting sprayed by water hoses instead do you think the company would have stopped him? He's a major star they'll let him do almost anything as long as it doesn't damage the brand.

If you disagree with the company policy and think he should be free to do whatever he pleases then that's fair enough. But its a bit like defending the right of businesses to discriminate. Or better yet he could sign onto another company if having all-black music videos matters that much.

Che wrote some stupid shit when he was younger that was fairly typical for a south american man of the period. He later when on to foster revolution in the Congo. If he still held any private racist beliefs at that point I think we can safely conclude that it didn't matter.
Your posts are really scatterbrained and stupid so I'm not sure what you're actually trying to say about black people though.

Is occupying one of the lowest strata of the American proletariat not enough?
This is galaxy brain level praxis. Either that or you're just nazbol in denial.

my bad then. Saw your post just now. How about some solid instrumental hip hop though youtube.com/watch?v=aq9ginJsSIU

Geto Boys was better though when you look at the world around them at their time.

Okay then should have just said so.

You're right on Che.
Go into the poorest place in town and go up to a group of guys talking and yell outloud "What's up brotha!" and see for yourself if you can't understand.
Then do that every day of your life for 3 decades.

I'm directly against nazbol.

I can't tell if I have a hook in my mouth or not.
for one you didn't answer my q.
generalization. although for the sake of argument I'll concede that there's an innate sense of racism that has formed in certain black communities that is complex but at the end of the day can be traced back to capitalism. this is due in part to the fact that they have been and continue to be oppressed.

yeah i like instrumentals and i still treasure some albums and artists, but I just think a lot of it isn't worth listening more than a few times. while i'm not one for the "listening for the lyrics" meme it take a certain amount of dissonance to listen to hip hop music when its filled with vitriol and scatterbrained ideas. Like sure you can listen to it ironically or from some cultural relativist perspective but it got to a point where I couldn't to it anymore.

What the fuck does this post even mean. Go act minstrelsy to a bunch of black people and see what happens? I'm betting I'll get told off for being a stupid cunt. What does this have to do with anything?

Grug go to black cave, black cave no like grug because grug is inherently disliked. Grug try to join community only to get predominantly kicked out.

Not all of them but the ones that are are unironically on the same levels as Nazi's.

(me)
scratch that. I don't even think that's innate racism. I think it's just animosity towards an oppressor that the majority of which just happens to be white but first and foremost is bourgeoisie

and perhaps vitriol's the wrong word but for lack of other words the misogyny, ethnocentrism, glorification of drugs. perhaps i'm puritanical but at the end of the days shit ton of hip hop is indeed just glorification of hedonism, consumerism, cars, brands, alcohol name dropping etc. Maybe its interesting from an ethnographical perspective but even a lot of the reflections and stuff are severely shallow and unnuanced. that is why billy woods is one of my favorite hip hop artists

So most of the bourgeoisie are white yes we need to acknowledge that, but making segregated communities and supporting only black communities and
BUSINESSES
aren't appropriate responses.

I see where you're coming from, personally I guess i care less due to a combination of not listening to the lyrics too much and English not being my native tongue which makes me pay even less attention. Agreed that the "deep " reflections usually are far from brilliant and tend to be just cringy.
don't know him tbh but I'll be glad to check him out

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I hope you like him. As I read history I appreciate his historical references

Does no one remember how Candy Owens inserted herself into the culture wars via Gamergay and Zoe Quinn? This is all a play and Kanye is playing his part now. Scripted right down to the tee. We must rids ourselves of both idpol or we will be overrun with the new wokeness of conservatism.

Kanye West is still alive?! I thought Hollywood tried to "re-educate" him by sending him to a mental institute after he told evryone to calm the fuck down after the Trump Elections.

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