Trump's Face Will Feature On Israeli Coin

Yeah I'll wait for another source.

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This isn't the alt-right falling as it is becoming a part of the greater neocon establishment. Or as I like to call it, everything Marx predicted about reactionary movements being capitalist vanguards.

It's a gut check moment for Zig Forums and as it turns out they are all completely ok with supporting everything they're against if it's Trump doing it. An exercise in stupidity but not indicative of a fall.

On reconsidering my wording I think it would have been more appropriate likening the Alt-Right to a star turning into a white dwarf. The outer layer has "exploded" away, but a hard core of Kool-Aid sipping zioshills remain eating anything Trumpstein shits out. I do still feel that Zig Forums isn't as enthusiastic as it once was. It's more about neocon virtue-signaling while pretending to be edgy than promoting Nazism.

They'll pick up a fresh round of idiots over the summer and will have plenty of enthusiasm through the election. Things fade out in the interim year as only hardcore people stay posting every day, these are the people most willing to engage in mental gymnastics to defend Trump at all costs.

Zig Forums won't come to terms with what they're doing until well after 2020. By then enough fresh blood will have entered and realized Trump lied to them. I personally expect a hard split on Zig Forums between Americans and non-Americans, the latter will actually be put into situations where they could go full fash but American posters will cry about it if Trump complains. Already this can be seen with the amerimutt meme. Non-Americans will just move on to their own places while Zig Forums becomes more and more Republican and less and less Hitler. Or Zig Forums can go the terrorist route ala Siege then get vanned by the FBI after doing something stupid like bombing a church or the FBI headquarters.

This can't be real. I mean it's just too much

Hot

He's hard as a rock lobster, eh?

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This feels fucking heretical. Some kind of Old Testament shit needs to happen now.

lol???????????

Go clean your room and pet a cat, eh.

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HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME
I MADE MY MISTAKES
GOT NOWHERE TO RUN
THE NIGHT GOES ON AS I'M FADING AWAY
I'M SICK OF THIS LIFE
I JUST WANNA SCREAM

HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME

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Sort yourself out, eh.

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It's hard for me to take their anti-trump posts seriously. They all shit talk him and then when something in favor of them happens they praise him as the glorious leader. Numerous times in the past couple of months they would sticky threads praising some action Trump did and not even a week later he would do something that would piss off the entirety of Zig Forums. These people have the attention span of rodents.

They need the love of Lobster Christ.

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It used to be hilarious, but honest to god I'm starting to feel sorry for them.

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Oy vey

Trump said he supported Israel before the election. They were fucking crazy if they thought he was some covert neo-nazi.

Bannon and his cronies in particular recognized Zig Forums and cultivated it during the election with the help of white nationalists. Milo in particular was an agent for this, and his main deal was always organizing troll armies back during GamerGate where he got his start. In 2016 he was working for Bannon and met up with Richard Spencer and other alt-right types at a secret meeting in Dallas that was revealed later when Buzzfeed found out about it. Basically, the strategy was to get the main alt-right micro-celebs on board (Spencer, Mike Peinovich/Enoch and Douglass Mackey/Ricky Vaughn) and then get their followers to heavily promote Trump. They were always meant to be used – and used to propel into power a deranged game show host who has basically spent his entire life acting as a useful idiot for mobsters. Standard gangster capitalist stuff (and that includes Israeli gangsters).

Huh. That's interesting to me. You got more on this?

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Zig Forums here, what is wrong with this, exactly?

you support the single most pro-israel president in the history of the US. If you seriously can't see what's wrong with that, nobody can help you.

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In what way?

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Really doubt he is more pro-Israel than say, Obama, who destroyed Lybia and Syria.

oh man, you sure are an intellectual bunch

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Pray tell, what resources were exploited? Lybia and Syria were anti-Israel ciuntries and the goals of these operation were destabilizing and killing their leaders, not exploiting resources.

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Ok this is retarded, even for communist.

(you)

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Lybia was about crushing Gadaffi and his proposal for a new African+Middle Eastern monetary system, which would hamper American and French special interest in the region. This is why the French were so active during that war. The war in Syria is fully supported by Isreal, in their goal to destabilize the region. America, aside from appeasing Jewish lobbyists, gets the added bonus of getting rid of one of Russia's allies, and easy access to more oil. That is why Europe was more reluctant since the war in Syria doesn't benefit them at all.

Christ, try to see the world with more nuance. Just because there are manipulative Jews, doesn't mean there aren't other forces at play. And the same goes for people claiming that Jews have no interests at all.

I consider this denial because America and France get nothing out of attacking Syria and Lybia at all.

This makes a lot more sense when you consider they act as Israel's goyim.

And Europe was not recluctant, heck May and Macron immediately call for bombing, unlike Trump.

Reading comprehension. France has still ties to its colonies, just not official ties. Many French banks still make money from the Saharan/West African region. The US was more interested in the oil, which is still present in the North African region.

Politicians calling for "justice" is not the same as actually doing it. Lybia was bombed by a majority of Western European countries. In Syria this is not the case. Your weak attempt at equating America with Trump shows how stupid you are. Obama was the president when the Syrian war began. And he had no qualms with funding ISIS and sending drones to bomb Syria in the name of anti-terror.

i think you are giving them too much credit, its just a bunch of highly online right wing faggots who came up during the "Aren't sjw's bad, vote republican" phaze or 4chan.

its not like they had secret meetings, they all just openly shat on sjws and shilled for how great capitalism is and trump looked like the best thing for them.

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i smell crypto/pol/ coordination in these posts

This is interesting, because I've seen this analogy elsewhere. When working in Bezosland I handled a book by an American Dominionist that claimed that Trump was a "Cyrus" for their cause. That is, they obviously recognize that he isn't a Christian and doesn't care about the apocalypse or whatever, but believe that he is a heathen ruler who will incidentally advance their goals by getting rid of """"political correctness""""

8/pol has really stringent and quirky ideological moderation, it doesn't represent the views of the larger movement

To what end? Just making everyone who can possibly stand up to them crumble so they can shit everything up?

Ideology manifests itself in more ways than economically. It is the same reason why Isreal is trying to get the West to start a war with Iran. Muslims have shown hostility towards Isreal. Unlike Suadi Arabia and Turkey, Syria and Iran had no intentions of playing nice and kept being openly hostile. The goal is partially appeasing the Israelian public, and partially securing the safety of Isreal. Some very orthodox Jews also claim that Syria (Golan Heights) belongs to Isreal, and want to take it back. Not sure if Syria has any economic value aside from the little oil they have left. I hardly believe that to be the motive.

No coordination, but might look like it. Socialism is something we all should strive for, but that shouldn't dilute our perception of reality. Letting ideology blind you is a sure way to tragedy.

They named a subway stop after him.

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How are boomers finding this place

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thats pretty rich. You have no clue what my ideology is. the Gaddafi gold standard meme is a wacky conspiracy and nowhere close to "reality"
Israel has occupied the Golan Heights since 1967.

Part of it. Not all of it, and they are still fighting over it.
Being blinded by ideology has nothing to do with the ideology you have, it is about having an ideology in the first place. And that is something everyone with a worldview has. What counts is how much your ideology affects the way you perceive the world. Since there are no IDs I cannot be certain. However, the person I replied to suspected me of being aligned with Zig Forums, which comes over as "everyone who disagrees with me is Zig Forums" and is likely caused by their own ideology disagreeing with right-wing viewpoints.
Maybe. Is there another reason for large-scale intervention in Libya? Another reason why France particularly was interested, even though they never owned Libya as a colony.

Oil

/Qresearch/

Not unlikely due to the large amounts of oil in Libya. Still seems weird compared to Iraq War, which would have had a similar motive, but France somehow isn't present at all. Then again, something might have changed in France during those 8 years between each war.

France has more connections to Libya. Libya was an Iraq created by France for France.

web.archive.org/web/20160116035143/https://www.foia.state.gov/searchapp/DOCUMENTS/HRCEmail_DecWebClearedMeta/31-C1/DOC_0C05779612/C05779612.pdf

From: sbwhoeop

Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2011 10:44 PM

To: Subject: H: France's client & Q's gold. Sid

Attachments: hrc memo France's client & Q's gold 040211.docx; hrc memo France's client & Q's gold 040211.docx

CONFIDENTIAL

April 2,.2011

For: Hillary

From: Sid

Re: France's client & Qaddafi's gold

… … …

According to sensitive information available to this these individuals, Qaddafi's government holds 143 tons of gold, and a similar amount in silver. During late March, 2011 these stocks were moved to SABHA (south west in the direction of the Libyan border with Niger and Chad); taken from the vaults of the Libyan Central Bank in Tripoli. This gold was accumulated prior to the current rebellion and was intended to be used to establish a pan-African currency based on the Libyan golden Dinar. This plan was designed to provide the Francophone African Countries with an alternative to the French.franc (CFA).

Source Comment: According to knowledgeable individuals this quantity of gold and silver is valued at more than $7 billion. French intelligence officers discovered this plan shortly after the current rebellion began, and this was one of the factors that influenced President Nicolas Sarkozy's decision to commit France to the attack on Libya. According to these individuals Sarkozy's plans are driven by the following issues:

a. A desire to gain a greater share of Libya oil production,

b. Increase French influence in North Africa,

c. Improve his internal political situation in France,

d. Provide the French military with an opportunity to reassert its position in the world

e. Address the concern of his advisors over Qaddafi's long term plans to supplant France as the dominant power in Francophone

On the afternoon of April 1, an individual with access to the National Libyan Council (NLC) stated in private that senior officials of the NLC believe that the rebel military forces are beginning to show signs of improved discipline and fighting spirit under some of the new military commanders, including Colonel Khalifha Haftar, the former commander of the anti-Qaddafi forces in the Libyan National Army (LNA). According to these sources, units defecting from Qaddafi's force are also taking a greater role in the fighting on behalf of the rebels.

web.archive.org/web/20160109231027/https://www.foia.state.gov/searchapp/DOCUMENTS/HRCEmail_DecWebClearedMeta/31-C1/DOC_0C05782401/C05782401.pdf

MORE EMAILS DETAILING SARKOZY'S PLAN AND MOTIVES IN LIBYA

This "CONFIDENTIAL" email explains how France created and funded the rebels:

"How the French created the National Libyan Council, ou l'argent parle,'" French for "money talks,"

H: how France created NLC, Sid Mar 22, 2011

CONFIDENTIAL

March 22, 2011

For: Hillary

From: Sid

Re: How the french created the National Libyan Council, ou l'argent parle

During the evening of 22 March, a knowledgable individual stated in strictest confidence that in late February 2011 officers of the French General Directorate for External Security (DGSE) began a series of secret meetings with the current leader of the National Libyan Council (NLC), Mustafa Jalil, and General Abdelfateh Younus, the soon to be commander of rebel troops around Benghazi. At that time, the two had just left the government of Muammar Qaddafi, Jalil having been Minister of Justice and Younus Minister of the Interior. According to these knowledgeable sources, the DGSE officers provided money and guidance to assist in the formation of the NLC. These officers explained to Jalil and Younus that they were speaking under orders from French President Nicolas Sarkozy, and they promised that as soon as the NLC was organized France would recognize the council as the new government of Libya. The DGSE officers added that Sarkozy felt that he would have the support of British Prime Minister David Cammeron in this matter. Jalil and Younus accepted this offer and have maintained contact with the DGSE officers in Cairo.

In return for this assistance the DGSE officers indicated that they expected the new government of Libya to favor French firms and national interests, particularly regarding the oil industry in Libya. Jalil and Younus agreed.

al-monitor.com/pulse/files/live/sites/almonitor/files/documents/2015/French_Econ_Algeria.pdf

H: Lots new, French economic grab/Levy/Q & OBL/AQ base in Algeria. Sid May 5 2011

CONFIDENTIAL

May 5, 2011

For:Hillary

From: Sid

Re: French economic grab/Levy/Q & OBL/AQ base in Algeria

Latest:

On the morning of May 5, 2011. individuals with access to the leadership of the Libyan rebellion's ruling Transitional National Council (TNC) states in strictest confidence that In mid- april, 2011 the French Air Force, in an operation organized in cooperation with the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs, began bringing medical and other humanitarian supplies to the TNC led rebels in Benghazi, using civillian aircraft. The flights began on April 13 with a cargo including 9 tons of medical supplies. At the same time, these sources add that these flights are bringing in representatives of major French corporations, as well as officers of the French General Directorate for External Security (DGSE), all of whom are looking to establish working relationships with the rebel leaders as they move towards becoming the government of Libya.

The initial flight included executives from the French oil company TOTAL, the large construction firm VINCI and the European Acronautic Defence and Space Company N.V. (EADS). The aircraft for the operations are provided by a IRBUS, which is a subsidary of EADS subsequent flights have carried representatives from the conglomerate THALYS and other large French firms, all with close ties to the government of President Nicolas Sarkozy. After meeting with the TNC these French business executives leave discreetly by road, via Tobruk to Egypt. These convoys are organized and protected by para-military officers of the Special Action Group/DGSE, who also use these visits to establish contacts in the intelligence units of the rebel army under the command of General Abdul Fatah Younus, who, accoding to these sources, has longstanding ties to the DGSE.

This operation is the idea of Bernard Henri Levy, a private advisor to Sarkozy, who has been involved with the Libyan rebels since the beginning of unrest in February 2011. According to these knowledgeable individuals, while no contracts were signed in the first series of meetings, Levy arrived again in Benghazi on April 22nd, and obtained the signature of the appropriate TNC leaders on a Memorandum of Agreement, establishing the fact that French Firms will receive favorable consideration in all future business matters. According to knowledgeable individuals, Levy, speaking in polite terms, made it clear to the TNC officials that they owed a debt to the French for their early support, and that Sarkozy needed something tangible to show to the leaders of France's business and political communities in return. Both sides agreed to handle the agreement discreetly for the time being, not wanting to anger other countries involved with the rebels.

Levy closed by telling a small group of rebel leaders that Sarkozy was criticized privately by leaders of the French Jewish community for becoming involved with the rebels before determining their policy towards Israel, adding that this agreement would help deflect these complaints in Paris. The rebel leaders assured him that they were completely focused on fighting forces of Muammar Qaddafi and his sons. They did point out, however, that early in the uprising they had allowed the Israeli navy to enter Tobruk harbor and evacuate Palestinian laborers stranded there in the first days of the fighting.

(Source Comment: sources with excellent access to the DGSE state that Levy is using his status as a journalist to provide cover for his activities. However, he is working under direct orders from Sarkozy. DGSE and French Military officers inolved in the Libyan rebellion complain about Levy's status as a "gifted amateur" but admit that his is very effective at in dealing with the rebels, while carrying Sarkozy's complete trust.)

Maybe people are as blinded by humanitarian and liberal idealist ideology as much as you say I'm blinded by ideology?
that was me. because you have an inability to distinguish between jews and israelis (even if some jews outside israel support israel), and you espouse a Zig Forumstier conspiracy about gaddafi, the red flag being gold standard conspiracies that are standard fodder for lolberts and ancapitalists. you're just grafting it onto some vaguely leftist "antiimperialist" rhetoric about evil israelis and victimized iranians. All of this is a travesty of "reality" not an accurate reflection of it.

also of course it's more than ideology that led to libyan intervention, but in these people's minds their self interest and ideology are often indistinguishable in their own minds

According to knowledgeable individuals this quantity of gold and silver is valued at more than $7 billion. French intelligence officers discovered this plan shortly after the current rebellion began, and this was one of the factors that influenced President Nicolas Sarkozy's decision to commit France to the attack on Libya. According to these individuals Sarkozy's plans are driven by the following issues:

a. A desire to gain a greater share of Libya oil production,

b. Increase French influence in North Africa,

c. Improve his internal political situation in France,

d. Provide the French military with an opportunity to reassert its position in the world

e. Address the concern of his advisors over Qaddafi's long term plans to supplant France as the dominant power in Francophone

thank you for your effort

To each conflict, there are two sides. I never mentioned that I was against Isreal, or for Iran. Because I don't care about either of them. Again you let your assumptions paint the picture. I never mentioned my own opinions on the matter, just mentioned the events and possible motives for their actions. The Iranian government is far from nice and has no right to be defended. I'll let the people living in Libya be the judge if their lives are better now than they were before the war, since I do not know the answer. As for lumping Jews together, I only did that because of pro-Israel lobbyists in America, which are in fact, not Israelites, but Jews. Again you assume my words carry implied meaning based on perceived ideology.
This is all the proof I need for you being blinded by your ideology. Even if the Gadaffi Gold Standard truly is a conspiracy theory, your way of calling it out, without having conclusive proof of it, shows how much of a hypocrite you are.

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yes you're tone certainly implied hostility to israel. a lot of people are this board are anti-israel/zionist- it's probably the orthodox position here- but now you're denying it outright for argumentative reasons. I also never accused you of being soft on Iran, I never implied there was a false dichotomy at play in the first place.
This is rhetoricl flourish on your part. I never said that the Libyan intervention was a good thing, I was accusing you of coming up with a stupid explanation for its origins (libtard goldbug theory) when French interests in other regards are infinitely more plausible. Gaddafi has been trying to meddle in African politics for years as it is (see, his invasion of a part of Chad).
and…? Jewish lobbyists are one among many who have interest in seeing Israel preserved, along with the christian right, non-jewish neocons and military establishment and people with business interests there. Jewish lobbyists have the most "obvious" reason to see Israel continue, but to hone in on their jewishness is to ignore the fact that there are ideological cleavages between American jews, which are not aligning for against israel on ideological lines rather than ethnoreligious lines
lol whatever faggot. to believe in your stupid ass tinfoil theory that first circulated on Zig Forums takes as it's base assumption that the gold standard is "the ultimate good" and the evil West uses fiat currency from the evil central banks to distort markets. Your the one adopting the perverse logic of libertarians and now somehow making it a leftist position? Fuck off tbh

welp i went back and read my post and I realize i did do that kek

He's just as, if not slightly more, pro-Israel as Obama. The problem is polyps trying to deny otherwise and refusing to see him as another neoliberal in a line of neoliberals.

Are you a Jew?

Humanity was a mistake

In what way is Trump more pro-Israel than Obummer?

Why don't you ask Bibi.

my ancestor….

All the Abrahamic religion's have been corrupted, next one to fall is Islam, Mohammed Bin Salman will make sure of it.

Attached: French_Econ_Algeria.pdf (C05779612.pdf)

I don't see how that's relevant. The fact you're bringing it up and making me have to confirm or deny it is a manipulative way of making people question my integrity. it's a typical Zig Forums tactic to smear their opponents as scholomos, jews and kikes.

5D Starcraft

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Zig Forums will defend this with their lives.

Why are you kikes so ashamed of yourselves?

>>>Zig Forums

You cannot shame sociopaths/psychopaths.

MIGA!

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They're still pretty anti-jewish and anti-israel but the pro trump evangelical boomer Israelis really have a good go