Without him fascism would be ruling the world

Without him fascism would be ruling the world.

All socialists/communists/rad-leftists would be getting a bullet to the head today.

Thank him

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Thank you.

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I did not know Stalin personally go out and kill millions of fascists.

Wrong, all workers.

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american high school education alert

I bet you think the bourgeios create all the wealth too.

they dont, they steal it off the workers

But fascism is ruling the world

great man theory is bullshit. USSR won the war in spite of Stalin decapitating his own Army, not because of him.

Without him Fascism could have been beaten before Hitler took over both on the polls (with an united front with the social-democrats, or, ahem, "social fascists") or through street fighting, both approaches Trotsky advocated.


That's the dumb old conservative saying "Stalin didn't defeat Fascism, Soviet people did!" re-written with "workers". Wars are mostly about technological and industrial development and capacity, and it's a fact Russia without the Bolsheviks, or with the Bolsheviks but following the path of Bukharin, would not have had any of that by the time WW2 started. Stalin was an idiot and incompetent, but he deserves credit for taking the path of planned industrialization before it was too late.


When you have one faction advocating one approach to economy and the other faction advocating another approach, one leading to the development of the necessary material means and the other not, and one headed by an individual and the other by another individual, this is just a matter of practical politics personified by the people who occupy the related institutions, not "great man theory", you idiot.

technology is very important, but what's also important are the people doing the fighting. There's nothing more socialist than giving credit to the workers, the proletariat masses, who risked their lives to defend themselves from fascism. Attributing their hard work to a man who sat behind a desk and didn't step foot on the WW2 battlefield is disengenuous.
crediting the economic development that made the USSR a success as the work of Stalin's genius alone is great man theory

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Just like Stalin.

Thank you bank robbing mustache man from Atlanta, Georgia for killing the Nazis

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It's obviously more complicated than that you moron.


Nobody is doing that. Would you not thank without question Marx? Or Luxemburg? For different reasons but ultimately to the contribution of the struggle? I do the same with him, being aware of the mistakes he made and his acheivements to the highest extent.

Tell that to people whose nations got steamrolled by tanks they couldn't match. Apparently what matters is that they weren't brave enough.

That's a very infantile view of what Socialism is, and it's against just a kneejerk, reactionary, "the PEOPLE did it!" mentality that places public order and public coordination as some type of background to popular will and bravery, re-written. A socialist view is a view that takes into account an economic perspective of history, productive forces, technological development, modes of production, everything. It's not just saying regular people are fantastic and do all the work while silly, coward bureaucrats sit back and do nothing.

Wars have had people "sitting behind a desk" ever since the beginning of civilization, user. It's called a division of labor and duties, and the intellectual and political work of people who help coordinate and possibilitate them is not unnecessary. Stop with your fucking but-what-about-the-little-man shit, this isn't something democratic, it's embarrassing. It's how the mind of a kid works.

I won't bother repeating my point.

TL;DR, you're a complete moron.

Yes look at all the wealth he had by the time of his death

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I never denied that. And funny that you don't mention that Stalin had purged some of the most important generals and bureaucrats before the nazi invasion, weakening the Soviet army and sabotaging the war effort.
your point was retarded as shit because stalin stole a bunch of his policy ideas from trotsky after purging him.

wow he must have been rich. 5 whole coats

stalin had a reason to get rid of the reactionary nationalist revisionist generals. hitler didn't, he kept his generals. look how ww2 turned out

Maybe because this is irrelevant to the point made

And so is this

And you have a simplistic view of both events, your grasp of history is Youtuber comments section tier

Soso bless ! :{DDD

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So. Hands up.
Who's living in paradise right now?
And I don't mean Paradise USA or whatever.

The world, did it get better?
Spoiler: No, because Adolf was a problem due to currency shenanigans, nothing else.
Just like every baby eating dictator ever since that suddenly grew weapon of mass destructions and killed six million jews (right now it's Assad, same number cited).

Of course Assad will be defeated, like all the other evil dictators, and the world will become…………………………………………..
Better.

it shows that USSR winning the war was in spite of Stalin's policy decisions, not because of it
shows that Stalin alone wasn't responsible for the economic development in USSR like you claimed
from the guy whose view of history boils down "and then papa stalin magic'd Russia into an industrialized nation and killed all the nazis"

How is it irrelevant? Stalin very clearly made the fight against Hitler harder by purging so many capable generals.
Yes his aim of industrialisation clearly saved them but this wasn't exactly a unique plan.
Stalin also clearly hampered defense by denying all information that Hitler was planning an attack, to the point where he even stalled defensive efforts to not provoke Hitler.
Hell he went sulking in his room for a couple days when he finally accepted the news.
He even didn't follow the advice of his own Generals and moved troops where the German invasion would not occur.

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Sadly since his accomplishments have been erased, fascism is pretty close to ruling the world now.
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ty comrade Stalin

Yeah, I'm an ancom but if it wasn't for Stalin's policies, the USSR wouldn't have industrialized quick enough and would have been flattened. Hitler would have won. Thank you Stalin.

Holy shit that's 100 yards of linen.

fascism would've collapsed eventually too, it's unsustainable, but i share your sentiment of Stalin playing a crucial role in the liberation

The man had near total control over the lives of millions and of the four estates. If you can't see something wrong with that, then you're an idiot.
yes, because it's not like we've ever had successful republics in the past. Here's a hint, if your ideology requires a fucking dictator in order to continue functioning, it probably isn't a sound one.

>>>/liberalpol/

World today is being ruled by fascists, and fascist principles. People vote in different puppets, but these puppets start the same wars and pass the same laws. Countries are ruled secret service types who go around murdering whoever they dont like.
All elections and protests are just circus and distractions. Every time someone from the elite goes to prison, its just a prop and not an actual elite. Actual fascist elites, you wont find their names anywhere, big business and politicians are all just their props for when the people get angry at something.

Technology has made fascism and inequality a fact. Technology is not distributed equally. And technology is the biggest factor in the economy, in the law (enforcement), in diplomacy, in the military.
These actual techno-fascist elites, they have the nukes, the subs, the drones, underground bases…. 99% of the population doesnt. 99% of the population could be removed by this technofascist 1%.

Its only a matter of time until the world union of secret service officers, nuclear military officers, and a few essential scientists and engineers unite to set up automation on an island, have enough supplies to wait out a nuclear holocaust of the masses, because if anyone in these masses could stop such a thing, he already works for them or he is already removed.

they needed a leader for that period.

lets see you fight a war/a world of westerners trying to destroy you without any sort of leadership.

look what happened to that anarcho state

Read Palme Dutt

Palme Dutt confirms that the world is ruled by fascists though.

How?

Better than the Tsar, accomplished more and better looking, too. Thank you, Stalin.

He never got to see the Soviet flag over Berlin…

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the myth of brutal evil commissars is nazi propaganda