First wave feminism simply grants genders legal equality. Nothing contradictory with Marxism in that. In fact you probably need to agree with first wave feminism to be a true Marxist. The concept of getting rid of class does not make sense when 50% of the population has a different set of rights as that would inherently create a de-facto class system.
Third wave feminism on the other hand is about blaming men for any difference between sexes. This is not compatible with true communism in any way, since true equality requires equal value. The "revenge" politics preached by 3rd wave feminism has nothing to do with equality, and instead attempts to elevate women to a special aristocratic class that is free from any scrutiny or assigned duty. This does not make sense as women cannot be both equal and incapable of taking responsibility for themselves.
Dominic Flores
Exactly: men constantly shitting on and belittling women's concerns.
you could've said something not retarded like how marxists can't be feminists because eliminating the bourgeois has nothing to do with there being more female billionares or whatever the tenants of modern feminism are
Justin Cooper
Sure. But people aren't blank slates. You have to address issues that pertain to them, dispel the myths you have to but the need is still there.
Samuel Nelson
how does communism alone not address the issues women face? i mean actual issues not beyonce being president
Robert Rogers
communism isn't about equality. read more marx
Nicholas Hernandez
Women's issues are workers' issues.
Lucas Jackson
You actually did sort of touch on the problem of third wave feminism.
Say you have a company with: 1 male CEO being paid 40% of company profit. 10 upper management / lower executives ( 8 male 2 female ) being paid 40% of company profit. 10000 wage slaves ( 5000 male, 5000 female ) being paid the remaining 20%.
A Modern feminist will look at this company and claim that the main problem is the "wage gap" because when averaged out the men in this company make roughly 4x more than the women do. But of course anyone who is not a complete retard can see the problem with this reasoning. Even if you replaced most of the men in the upper executive position, the overwhelming majority of people in this company would not be getting paid a fair share -so what have you really accomplished? Nothing.
That, right there, is the crux of modern feminism. It views gender equality through the lens of capitalism, which makes absolutely zero fucking sense due to the fact that capitalism in inherently non-equal.
Liam Peterson
As long as theres capitalism, there will be exploited women, women dying Imperialist wars, and women victim of the violence of the men from her own class. Feminism might free women in the formal sense, might bring about statistical equality, but it won't abolish class society and as such it will have to go beyond liberalism if it hopes to be an actual emancipatory movement. We should work hand in hand with feminist movements whenever it is strategically useful and never hesitate to use them in the most opportunistic fashion.
