Gender identity etc

Hi. I’ve never even bothered to look at this board before, mainly out of laziness and my incredibly short attention span.
But, i wanted to get some opinions.
What is Zig Forums‘s thoughts on transgenders/transvestites etc

idrk, i’m just curious

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It gets wrapped up in the Idpol question a ton but really there's no unified board opinion because its not a relevant question to leftism. It's socially nicer to be nice to trans people but obviously socialist societies can and have existed without any regard to them at all.
My personal take from knowing several trans women is that they're fairly normal people who's problems can be almost completely remedied by conforming to the opposite gender norm.

nothing wrong with it, some people actually have feminine or masculine characteristics when having a dick or vagine.

but thinking that makes someone leftist making fuss about it is degenerate.

i don't care and strongly suspect that there's conscious effort pushing discussion of something so silly and irrelevant to everything meaningful in political and otherwise discourse these days. Why did people suddenly start obsessing so much over something so fringe and unimpactful in the last few years or so?

Anyone else feel like most the threads on this board are just the same 20 threads or so on repeat ad infinitum?

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I can make another vegan thread if you want, that was new ground. ;)

wouldn’t know as I’ve only just popped onto this board 🤛😤🤜

nice try, cointelpro

I
Dont
Give
A
Fuck
What
People
Do
With
Their
Bodies

They're ok as long as they don't reduce or deny the importance of class struggle

It is very important that everyone has an opinion on what a group who make up less than 1% of the population do with their bodies.

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"Gender identity" is somewhere between pointless and harmful outside of its instrumental value in justifying some arbitrary behavior, but anyone who demands such a justification for questionable but harmless behavior is retarded. Anyone who believes in and takes the brain sex justification seriously is double retarded.

Do your gender bender shit but don't act as if you need to point to an "identity" as an excuse.

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is a boy with a pussy who identifies as a female a girl?

I don't care about it, but the issue gets pushed in my face by both sides all the time for some reason

It's a medical issue and the only treatment for it that has proven to have any positive effect is to transition to living as the opposite sex. Admittedly the increased social acceptance of trans people in recent years has caused a small but vocal number of people to end up latching onto the notion as a form of attention-seeking or simply because they don't conform to gender stereotypes or whatever, but those people rarely ever transition so its not a huge deal beyond them acting obnoxious sometimes.

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We're gonna need all the traps and transfolk we can get for the Gender Cheka who will go around at 3 A.M. busting into houses and AK-47'ing lady skittles into the mouths of Cernovich types and their families.

We are for trans liberation just like the entire radical left is today.

I don't care about trannies or faggotry, I think the whole thing is just silly. The right's obsession with faggotry just betrays that they themselves are faggots and their ideology is faggotry, fascist ideology even moreso and explicitly (there is a reason why fascists rely on sexual imagery to convey their ideology).

I am bothered that people within the left want to tie themselves to faggotry as a cause to fight for, and all forms of sexual politics are a cancer to the left. But what faggots do in their own time isn't really something I care to police or cure; it is not too hard to understand homosexual pathology and realize that, usually, something is wrong and dysfunctional with these people, but it is better to treat the underlying pathological problems than try to cure faggotry (and conversion therapies are total bullshit). The greatest problem as I see it is that these men (and I can only speak for the men) can't be cured because they never develop the ability to form meaningful relationships with women, and it's damn near impossible to build that out of nothing (nor would it even be desirable; I for one have no interest in pursuing relationships with women).

For what it's worth I'm an ex-"bisexual" man who eventually said to hell with it and became essentially asexual. I'm much happier since I stopped caring about such things; I don't think a lot of men over 30 are so obsessive about sex, unless they get trapped on an ideological hamster wheel (which fascists and capitalists routinely exploit, as I have seen many many times; it was seeing that exploitation that eventually drove me to give up sexuality).

In my experience, trans people really just want two things from other people. To not be assaulted or murdered for existing, and to have their immediate family, friends, and doctors respect them and their choices. The first seems like something leftists should support for most everybody, and the second isn't really a political problem.

The majority of trans people fit into the binary anyway, so it's hilarious to watch people cry about the downfall of genders. Nonbinary people are a minority of a minority. People just need to chill on this.