Are we ever gonna start seeing Stalin apologists getting some electoral success? Or perhaps a 21st century stalin?
21st century stalin
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Why another Stalin, exactly? He was okay, but why the same person in different conditions? Or do you just mean another leader with massive appeal? If that's the case, why not another Lenin? Actually, why even subscribe to this great-man conception of events anyways? Another decent party'd be nice, at least. A lot nicer than sitting in our armchairs waiting for another Stalin to come.
No, Americans are much more spooked on anything left of Clinton than fascism.
maybe one of us needs to the new stalin
I'd be down for an OP party
but it would be particularly funny if someone singing stalins tune would rise to power to the cries of injustice of all the shitlibs and conservitards in this country.
People over forty, yeah. All the people younger than that have been brought up being told that everything they want, they can't have because it's socialism. Universal healthcare? Socialism. Universal secondary education? Socialism. Full employment? Socialism. Clean energy? Socialism. When they ask for these things they get told about socialist Scandinavia and communist China, both of which are doing the things they want their country to be doing. And all that is besides the immigrants and children of immigrants that have come to the US either from ostensibly communist countries or countries with histories of left politics.
So after being told their whole lives, "sorry, this is America and we have no money for socialism," when the military budget grows year after year, the war in Afghanistan has been going on for literally before some of them have been born, that piddling minimum wage increases and job security are decried as 'unrealistic,' more and more of them are going, 'okay, fine. If the things we want are all socialism, then give us socialism!'
That's a major part of what is fueling instability in the American government. Congress, the president, increasingly even their state and local legislatures, are doing everything they can to put a stop to even the most anemic reforms because once it starts it won't be stopped, at least not without giving up the masquerade, and once that happens, once the bourgeois have to resort to naked force to maintain their system domestically, it's all over. It will be either permanent military occupation or the end of capitalism as it has existed for the past hundred years. This is what keeps the bourgeois awake at night.
I'm kinda at a point that the bourgeoisie have had their chance to be conciliatory… which why I become more and more ☭TANKIE☭ everyday.
See, you've missed my point. Socialism isn't built by singing tunes over leaders long gone. There's not "another Stalin" coming. We deal with what he got.
If you want to have more unironic stalinists, we need more ironic stalin memes like vid related. Embrace the capitalist propaganda that Stalin was genocidal monster and make fun of it. This is the way nazis are getting accepted by western lumperproletariat. While I know jackshit about psychology and scientific ideological warfare, I believe that person watching this, even if he doesn't know what communism is and was taught at school that he was genocidal monster, do not reject the message of the video - he accept it that yes, indeed, Stalin was as bad person as this meme shows while, at the same time, associating Stalin = fun, which makes said person more open to Stalin's ideas in the future.
tl;dr: we need more edgy stalin memes.
Yeah, you're right they're won't be another Stalin.
Idk if the nazi's today think there will be another hilter, but they clearly have an agenda and they've been moderately successful at pushing it into the mainstream. Honestly their views were already a lot closer to the mainstream than anything near stalin's, but I'm talking about a kind of similiar rise. The current "surge" in socialism's popularity that is kind of said to be mirroring the rise of new fascists is pretty banal socdems, who don't want to offend anyone and will on go so far. If there were really rising on both the far right and left, there would be unironic stalinist apologists winning 6000 votes too, right? Idk, man it just seems like even the positive things we have are pretty weak.
No, fuck you, that's cryptofascism. You'll just get a bunch of Nazbol idiots defaming Stalin while praising him as some kind of great fascist leader.
We must defend Stalin because he was good, he was not genocidal.