Debate Stirner

Continuing a third time. Nowhere am I saying that Marx and Stirner are the same. Stirner does not give as detailed an analysis of class-based antagonisms. He also accuses Stirner of breaking into solipsism:

Good posts

not deflating your conferring praise, but be careful engaging that user unless you're prepared for multi-post autistic responses

That reduces your freedom and egoistic potential. It would be better for them to be destroyed for you.

Your self-interest to defend yourself? If you can't defend yourself, then you won't be truly free.

Stirner is shit-tier. Capitalism and sociopathy are the perfect examples of his retardation put into practice.

Fantastic, user.

brainlets pls go

Marx was kinda a brainlet on this part, he accuses Stirner of dethroning an emperor by not belieivng in his power but contrary, Stirner just says the power over his mind is a spook. The 'emotional response' set up is a strawman.

You made gr8 posts there, my property.

Your brain is a spook.

This is Marx accusing Stirner of being a solipsist (and possibly a subjectivist) in terms of the metaphysics that Marx says Stirner seems to suggest. For Marx, Stirner's 'man' (as opposed to the youth) is concerned not with the general and intersubjective reality of what is spectral for the youth (the example he gives is the Emperor), but rather his sole relation to what he once thought to be spectral. This implies that the Stirnerian man's knowledge of the real, despooked world is incomplete and that Stirner veers close to crude individualism. Marx writes in response to correct Stirner:

stirner would point out that reason is the source of spooks

This is true: we do not know of any 'ultimate' kind of knowledge, hence at every 'level' of reason above a given system or artefact of knowledge and above, that system or artefact of knowledge is spectral. This is true for anything which cannot justify itself - all such ideas depend on something else to be justified, hence all are spectral. Myths are spectral for religions; religions are spectral for philosophies (we find Stirner operating at this level); philosophies are spectral for sciences and so on. See: ( dialectics.org/dialectics/Applications_files/Graphical_View_01_of_05_,_'The_Psychohistorical-Dialectical_Meta-Equation_of_Human_Ideologies-Knowledges_Meta-Evolution'_,_27APR2017.jpg ) ( dialectics.org/dialectics/Applications_files/Graphical_View_03_of_05_,_'The_Psychohistorical-Dialectical_Meta-Equation_of_Human_Ideologies-Knowledges_Meta-Evolution'_,_27APR2017.jpg )