Whiffs

Honestly the USSR should have nuked the US

This but a thousand times more unironic and more seriously.

The sino-soviet split was massive imo. Imagine what an allied USSR and China could've done.

Guy blew his fuse too soon, should've worked for a promotion until he could get a hold of something like a ballistic missile submarine or a battlecruiser

Entirely agree for the post WW1 era. France falling would have precipatated Italy falling as their Communist party was just as, if not more powerful. West Germany would have been left isolated and easily coerced and NATO would have been shattered

i-it would be beautiful

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didn't Stalin fuckup the front in the soviet-polish war with some dumb glory seeking, which lead to the loss at warsaw

Posdianism?

Listen kid, who the hell do you think you are to say that Stalin fucked something up??? Stalin didn't make a single mistake in his life! You got it, you little smug fucker????7

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STALIN FAILED TO COMMIT A SINGLE CRIME
youtube.com/watch?v=q2ueo1muIh8

AMERICAN HISTORY IS FALSIFIED

This tbh

Who exactly was glory-seeking? It was ⛏️rotsky's decision to solo Warsaw. He could've waited until everyone else would be ready to move forward and cover him.

Tbh not only Stalin but the other general dude fucked up as well
The one that was killed by Stalin when he went full autism

Was this before or after cowboys on dinosaurs fought with cyborg T-Rex from hell?

Sino-Soviet split.

This was completely politically unviable for a million reasons the most they could get away with in this vein would've been a return to pre 1939 borders maybe letting Prussia connect to the GDR and giving the Kaliningrad oblast territory to Poland. Even doing that much would've been a battle and a half for the Soviets diplomatically.

It's pretty depressing that Deng took over and China was forever lost to revisionism

Well if his intention was to hold the government of the USSR effectively hostage, then I could see a ballistic missile submarine being much more effective then the small destroyer he gained control over.
However if I'm remembering things correctly, his goal was instead to anchor the ship next to the Aurora and make a public plea to the military/public for what amounted to a second revolution in order to course correct the USSR back into the path of Marxism-Leninism.
Obviously anchoring next to the Aurora had a tremendous amount of symbolism attached to it.

Well as with all battles, whether they be economic, political, diplomatic or military.
It fundamentally boils down to force and more specifically who has the greater capacity and ability for it.
I honestly do not think that the provisional polish socialist government would have been in much of a position to oppose the will of Moscow.
Especially when Moscow still had much of a battle hardened army in the region.

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OPPORTUNIST DETECTED

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Germany in 1918, anyone who disagrees does not read.

Tukhachevsky?

HA you are like little baby here watch this

SocDem betrayal during 1917-1923, they literally saved capitalism in Europe.

Battle of warsaw 1920

kinda this, it wasn't just one year or one battle, it was the whole era of proletarian revolution in europe, social democrat collaboration with the freikorps and such

Lenin sum it up nicely

It is my understanding that U.S. Communists and European communists failed to hold themsleves to good theory, and thusly failed hilariously. I think a revolution in Greece was sabotaged as well. Then, of course, you have the failure of the USSR to have enough proletarian control to stave off bourgeois influence. If any of these things had been forseen and fixed, we would likely all be Commies.

FDR proposes The New Deal and Leftists agree to stop agitating toward revolution.

Should have accepted the reforms but kept agitating anyway.

Children, the both of you!

Communist Prussia is best Prussia.

The Decemberist Revolt not succeeding and Russia not becoming a Liberal Republic (All but in name) a hundred years before it did in our timeline which would have led to more development and after the (Inevitable) Socialist revolution them not inheriting a completely technologically and economically backwards shithole

Oliver Cromwell and the UTOPIAN PROTO-CHRISTCOM GANG's Commonwealth not succeeding

Xinhai Revolution not revolution turning China into a actual Liberal Republic instead of just Feudalism with a Human face

IIRC Julius Caesar was close to a Socialist and that's why he was killed.

So

Every day someone doesn't attempt to nuke America is another day lost.

and 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧England🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧, don't forget about 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧England🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

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exactly, and your dubs prove it :D

All of them.

The ongoing great social-democratic backstab of 1914- was the biggest fuck-up by a nautical mile, and in fact began even before that. At least until 1912 the 2nd International was supposedly united against the imminent threat of generalized imperialist war to the point it was supposedly the official policy, with the Basel Congress of that year having voted unanymously against war, but slowly some shitters began dropping their red flags in order to wave national ones. The only national sections that stood firm were the Russian and Serbian ones. The leadership of the 2nd International made one last stand for the anti-war position a day after the first war declaration, that of Austria-Hungary against Serbia, in 29 July 1914, when the 2nd International's permanent body published a resolution re-affirming the duty of socialists to oppose the bloodshed. Two days later, socialist Jean Jaurès, arguably the last man capable of keeping generalized war from erupting, was murdered by a French nationalist. Four days after that, the UK declared war on Germany and the entire Reichstag, of which the SPD was the biggest bloc, voted in favor of credits to fund the imperialist war. Thus began the age-old advice: never trust a social-democrat.

It was the biggest German party by a fair margin at that, having received no less than a third of all votes for parliament. It will forever remain a mystery how many of those voters did that in support of the SPD's growing belicosity and how many supported the anti-war minority or were swindled by socialism's nominal anti-war stance. The party was about to split, between that considerably-sized minority which would become the KPD and the majority which, unfortunately, were the ones in formal charge of the SPD and in the Reichstag, every single one of which voted in favor of the war credits. I would like to point out that this is yet another example of the M.O. of reactionaries. They don't subvert order so they can reach power, but do the exact reverse. They reach power and destroy from within. The rightwing are the real masters of subversion. Soon enough, the SPD would backstab socialism again, this time by suppressing the German Revolution. Now in full charge of the government after WW1, they sicced the army and the Freikorps on the very people who four years before they had called comrades.

When Lenin got a copy of the SPD's official newspaper, Vorwärts, announcing the approval of war credits, he literally couldn't believe it, thinking he had just read an Okhrana forgery. He believed, quite correctly I think, that if only the 2nd International had stuck to its anti-war stance and the parties had agitated on its supposed platform of opposing war between nations and exhorting war between classes, not only would WW1 have been avoided, but international revolutionary war might have erupted, thus avoiding the whole mess of the Russian Civil War and the ensuing specter of Stalin and his totalitarian cubs. Of course, the probabilities of this were impossible to calculate then and remain so now, but regardless, it represents the biggest opportunity wasted by the left, both in scope and in rarity.

Let me finish this with an amusing sidenote:

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There are a few.

Easily the most obvious one. If the SPD had sided with the spartacists Germany had gone red. This would have had a massive domino effect, relieving pressure on the Soviet Union, leading to less authoritarianism in both states. It also probably would have led to communist victories in Hungary, Italy, and possibly even Spain and France.

Don't know as much about this one, but from what I've heard the uprising could have toppled the government, and the PCF was in a position to take power and declare a socialist state.

Brezhnev was easily the last Soviet leader in a position to save the whole project, and probably the most well equipped to do so. By the time he took power the Soviet Union was a global superpower, it had huge, well equipped, and experienced military, and as well as a powerful nuclear arsenal. Their economy was relatively healthy and growing alongside standards of living, their government was secure, they had numerous socialist allies all around the world. They were possibly in a position to mend the Sino-Soviet split since Khrushchev was out of the picture, and they had even re-established trade relations with many western and neutral countries. Basically, the conditions that necessitated the revolutionary austerity and authoritarianism of Lenin or Stalin's day no longer existed. They were free to experiment with technologies such as cybernetics to improve their economy, and their revolution was easily secure enough to allow greater democracy and political freedoms. However they failed to capitalize on this, and instead the system remained stagnant, it failed to innovate or allow for greater democracy which would have driven progress and tackled corruption. They just sat their at the height of their power and allowed the bureaucrats and nomenklatura to eat the country from the inside out until people became fed up with it, and the resulting instability provided the opening for counterrevolution to succeed.

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more like "never trust a w*Sternoid"

Tito did support the KKE, it was Stalin to backed out of it. That was one of the causes of the Tito-Stalin split.

Andropov my man

The dude died too soon but if he had at least a couple more years in him the USSR would have still existed. His ideas were great and he could have been the second Stalin.

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Andropov was great but I don't think he was in the best position to actually save the USSR. Brezhnev's position was far stronger, by the time Andropov took over the decay of the Soviet system was in a more advanced stage. If Andropov had taken power in 1964 instead of Brezhnev then it might have been saved.

There was no Tito-Stalin split. There was SFRY-Communist split, since SFRY went anti-Communist - which was the only reason that mattered.

Nice meme. Yugoslavia adopted some revisionist/utopian elements such as markets, but I would still argue that it was more authentically socialist in some ways, since workplace democracy and worker's self management was actually somewhat of a reality in Yugoslavia as opposed to the USSR. The Yugoslav state was more authentically proletarian.

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It's a pity that right after his death, all our local retards went on a land grab and now we have these shitholes here in the Balkans.

I recall a thread from years ago making those claims, but I haven't seen sources.

What in particular do you want sourced?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Andropov
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Андропов,_Юрий_Владимирович

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That just means Andropov refused to introduce market reforms not that he didn't want to modify the planned economy

Andropov began the policies to introduce Market elements to build productive forces while maintaining the command economy
It's unfortunate that gorbachev and the counter-revs took advantage of this to push for full liberalisation

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