Afghanistan: Factions, Soviets, Critical Support, History

What are the appropriate left-wing takes on the pit of chaos that has been Afghanistan since the 1970s?
I've made some educated guesses from skimreading without looking too much into theory, but honestly it seems like a perfect sandpit for unusual factional takes, odd critical support and obscure doctrinal differences, as well as just being an utterly confusing mess and a good excuse to post about the Soviet intervention in general. So feel free to tell me that one of the people I've called good is actually terrible and explain why, or point out where I've got history wrong.

So with no further ado, let's look at the main factional events. If you can figure out who you support throughout all of them and explain why in this thread, you get to control of Afghanistan for the next 15 minutes!
1970s
1973 Afghan coup d'état: Mohammed Daoud Khan vs King Mohammed Zahir Shah: Mohammed Daoud good?
There's some factional stuff in the PDPA worth mentioning ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Democratic_Party_of_Afghanistan#The_Khalqs_and_the_Parchams ) but besides that the basic impression I get is that Daoud started vaguely left but relations with the USSR declined and he created the anti-communist National Revolutionary Party of Afghanistan to try to weaken the PDPA. Someone gets murdered and all hell breaks loose and Daoud gets couped.
Saur Revolution: Mohammed Daoud Khan vs People's Democratic Party of Afghanistan: PDPA good?
PDPA win. Nur Mohammad Taraki installed as Prime Minister. The snazzy red flag is adopted
Factional Struggle! President Nur Mohammad Taraki vs Foreign Minister Hafizullah Amin: ???
Hafizullah Amin has Taraki killed and becomes President. Soviets intervene in Afghanistan.
Operation Storm 333: Hafizullah Amin vs Babrak Karmal+Soviets: Karmal is Soviet backed so Karmal good?

1980s
The little factional sidequest is only one little thing also I forgot to mention the country is in civil war by this stage. At some point the green, black and red flag replaces the USSR style one
Soviets + Democratic Republic of Afghanistan v. Mujahideen/Taliban with US backing is easy: Soviets Good. OR IS IT? Apparently the Chinese provided backing for the Mujahideen too.
Soviets begin to wind down operations. Democratic Republic of Afghanistan becomes Republic of Afghanistan and seeks compromise with non-socialist groups. Elections held, ending single party rule. Mujahideen boycott.
Republic of Afghanistan minus Soviets vs Mujahideen: RoA good.
Republic of Afghanistan adopts new constitution declaring itself an Islamic Republic. Ruling "People's Democratic Party of Afghanistan" becomes the Socdemish(?) "Watan party."
Republic of Afghanistan vs Mujahideen: Despite reformism presumably still RoA good.

1990s
USSR collapses. Republic of Afghanistan falls shortly afterwards, Peshawar Accords create interim government of some Mujahideen forces. Islamic State of Afghanistan formed. Civil war begins between Islamic State of Afghanistan and the Taliban's Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan
Islamic State of Afghanistan vs Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan: ?
Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan wins. Northern Alliance is formed from remains of Islamic State of Afghanistan
Taliban vs Northern Alliance: ?

2000s + 2010s
9/11 happens. USA asks Afghanistan to hand over Bin Laden. They don't. ISAF invades.
UK+USA+Friends (basically half the planet including ex-yugos, Romania, Albania, Mongolia and Tonga for some reason, but not Russia, China or Iran) + Northern Alliance vs Taliban and allies: ????
Taliban falls. Karzai government created from Northern Alliance forces. Taliban insurgency begins. Several groups splinter from Taliban.
ISAF+Afghan Government vs Taliban, Al Qaeda, ISIL-KP, Pakistani Taliban, Taliban splinter groups, Foreign fighters and god knows who else, and I wouldn't be surprised if half of these guys are fighting each other as well: ?

Who do you critically support against who? Why, when, where, and what? And if that's too confusing for you - it certainly is for me - just post some helicopters with stars on them flying low while you think through whether or not you critically support Khalqs against Parcham reformism.

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Well there was PDPA obviously who started off as a Standard M-L group but eventually moved more towards SocialDemocracy in the late 80s-Early 90s
The Mujahids
And the Maoist Commandoes who fought against the PDPA only to get purged by the Mujas straight after
There was a semi split between Taraki's and Amins factions of the PDPA that were settled after the assasination of Taraki by Amin and the subsequent Elimination of Amin by the Soviet Intervention (Babruk Kamal would be president then until Najibullah)

Entered in 79 because of Amin Assinating Taraki and freeing terrorists from prison took out Amin and placed Kamal in power
Terrorists were basically defeated by 89 when Go*bs cucked out

tough one

The Afghans had little reforms in terms of economics made during the 70s-80s asides from a Agrarian reform that proved unpopular
Most reform was Social in nature including education womens Liberation etc

The goal of the PDPA was not to immediately build a socialist Society / economy but to uproot centuries of Feudal society and create the productive forces that would be necessary for socialism

It held this position until its Social Democratic Tun in the early 90s

redpill me on Pakistan

Meme country, shouldn't exist in the first place

can you please elaborate

Indian detected

fuck Jinnah

even though the taliban is fucking awful, i can't support the soviets at all in the war either. it shouldn't have happened imo

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fuck ⛏️rotskyite "critical support," the DRA was based and I support it wholeheartedly

here we go again!
Have you ever considered that you still believe imperialist lies???

Sits waiting for someone to be banned for admitting they support the NATO-led-coalition-of-half-the-world against the Taliban and ISIS(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

not necessarily

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The partition of India was backed by the UK to create countries easier to exploit by stoking religious tensions.

No, I'm a wh*toid.

The only thing more embarrassing than thinking Pakistan had to be freed from India is thinking a state of Pakistan has to be freed from Pakistan.

I’m here!

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Operation in shawls. Notice the drone? Who support talibans?

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Grad rocket… in Jalalabad when also talibans never got that type of weapon…

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Al hurr media is the secret news agency controlled by ISI and their plan WAS to support talibans when… Rizwhan Aktar with Mossad made a deal. Support Isis as new generation of Lashkar al Islam and Jaysh e Mohammed because Mossad psychoterrorist specialist members compared All their operations and ALL their victories, and won in this case ISIS!
But their secret plan was to recruit all talibans warriors into or pak paramilitary army or into ISIS ranks (see latest photos of Amaq) for an imminent war against INDIA for water supply in Kashmir

As you can see in Nors map Isis control territory with gold mines… isn’t strange?

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But to make this dirty game they must kill some political members that know too much…

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And moved lions of Khilafa to Afghanistan…

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But there is a problem: Tayip Erdogan that support Tehrek talibani and Turkistani Islamic party, that in the first moment (like they are doing) are helping Talibans (Islamic Emirates of Zawahiri) but then they will merge in a new factions… do you know which? An help in these photos… yes Hayat Tahrir al Sham of Joulani! (Is highly probably that hours i is already in Tajikistan/Afghanistan border) when Baghdadi in Pakistan/Afghanistan border [YES YOU HAVE UNDERSTOOD, like in Syria for kivunim plan]in which group?
So now there is a new question: which faction in Syria moved from Jabhat al Nusra into Isis ranks? Answer: Jund al Aqsa.
Explained his dirty game!

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A’s you can see there is a “mujaheddon” into ISIS ranks. And from where? Do you remember Sadat agency of Tanriverdi?
Except mujahereen in blue of MI6/M1/G4S in the previous post?

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Here the answer: from Somalia!

Grey wolves in Somalia… and what is in Somalia? Ansar al Shabaab! That I posted times ago in the other board others photos of his hundreds members to show how they are powerful in Somalia when Amisom left their country!

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What is there*

After our excursus in 5D chess we get the old geopolitical situation written by you and the modern written by me (that is more complex). Too complicate our problem we have to add that in Khundar/Khamdaz/ and other regions near Iran and Tajikistan (but few groups) are under FSB/IRGC controls (in short they are allies because support them)
In central are indipendent like around Kabul, in nord east will be under Isis control like Far East and Jalalabad.
Now MIT (Turkey intel) wants that near Turkmenistan (TTP/TIP) will be under HTS/Joulani control.

Ok I’ve finished! (Maybe…)

Mossad know very well that if ISIS will create a khilafa in mountains will be invincible not only for their excellent preparation in military training but for their future weapons, that will be very modern and sofisticated. Think to Stinger, suicide drones and FM-6 (anti tank Chinese).
If you compare the same soviet invasion now you will laughter because the winner is Dawla. Or better Ultra Dawla!
BOOM!

Yes the project is called ULTRA DAWLA (idiots call them Isis reborn)

Now to all your questions:
QAnon wrote that they will support Haqqani like in the photo!
Me Talibans, specially the same factions supported by Iran, for two reasons: first to accelerate your hidden plan (…) second because they are supported by Russia and in 23 August talibans were near to a peace with governments that was never reached!

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I hope that I helped you! I’m sorry that I can’t upload other photos with other explanations because I’m using a phone and not in possession of my hard drive with 1 Tera of archive.

A’s you can see they are boosting to create an AQ in India

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why the fuck are you still shilling this meme that died ages ago

Was written 3 days ago, and I’m not always behind a screen like you.
Alliance for the Salvation of AFGHANISTAN is the alliance between Salahuddin Rabbani and Ata Mohammed Nour, (Jamiat and Islami party and ethnic Tajik), Haji Mohammed Mohaqqiq (Hizb and Wahdat Islami and Hazara ethnicity) and General Abdulrashid Dostum (National Islamic Movement, Uzbek and Turkmen ethnicities).
"Afrancesados" We use this term of course "in a broad sense," as the Spanish antibonapartists used in the period of the Iberian war, these are the Afghans who sold themselves to the American and NATO occupants and the government of Ashraf Ghani.
Taliban infinitely less influential than they were in the past, and currently lacking a true charismatic leader, they are nevertheless still able to maintain control of some key areas of the country.
ISIS actually are ex-Taliban who have "declared" themselves for the self-styled ' caliphate ' in the period when it seemed expanding and "victorious". They are not a large nor influential group, and many may flow back to the Taliban at any time.
Islamic Party The organization of Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, senior leader whose role in Afghanistan dates back to the years ' 80 and the war against the Soviets, occupies a role of "bridge" between the government of Kabul and the Taliban.

Its name is AQIP (al wards India peninsula)

Are a member of a LARP group?

Al Qaeda*

ou>>2634835
*you

Don’t know what means larp

trots actually wanted to help Democrat Cops of America by creating a volunteer battalion

Nothing
Forget it

I’m QAnon supporter

Live action role play?

I don’t have time for this!

Interesting but I don’t live in America!
-QAnon cell in Italy-

democratic republic of afganistan

Yea i realized it by reading the thread

Do you need other infos?
Make some question and with my limits are try to reply you!
In qresearch2gen you can get also the ALL lost of USA during all 2017. This year will be higher …

All lossess*. Damn corrector. The cpu of my phone is burned!

QAnon or EdAnon or ZAnon. Is the same. However for the good. This is sure!

I hope for a peoples war against the US, Taliban, Daesh, and all compradors and drug dealers, bless the CP(M)A

USSR after Stalin was both capitalist and imperialist

just don't…

Beep beep revisionist alert

thediplomat.com/2017/12/how-al-qaeda-came-to-kashmir/

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Al-Qaeda organisation was a small group in Afghanistan and now worldwide.

Al-Qaeda (AQC) in Khorassan.

- Afghanistan

The Group for Support of Islam and Muslims (JNIM) in West Africa.

- Mali
- Sahel
- Niger
- Burkina Faso

Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) North Africa.

- Algeria
- Tunisia

Harakat Al-Shabaab Al-Mujahideen (HSM) in East Africa.

- Somalia
- Kenya

Al-Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent (AQIS).

- India
- Pakestan
- Burma
- Bangladesh

Ansaar Al-Sharia (AQAP) in the Arabian Peninsula.

- Yemen

Tanzim Al-Qaeda al-Jihad fi Bilad Al-Sham.

- Syria

AQ has been fighting on the path of Allah since 1988

Sheikh Al-Hakeem Al-Ummah Ayman Dhawahiri;.."Oh brothers you are in a unit larger than your unity, by the grace of Allah, you are in the al Qaeda organisation which is loyal to the Islamic Emirate in a broad jihadist assembly by the grace of Allah and his generosity."
Al-Qaeda is a good producer of leaders.
-Each of those leaders can work and lead independently from others.
-All Al-Qaeda members are trained to become leaders gradually, thus, thou may think there are no soldiers in Al-Qaeda; just leaders.

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you don't even know what revisionism means
fucking mouthbreathing imbecile… hoxhaists and maoists, same cancer
this is so beyond retarded it can't even be adressed as if it were a point someone could make
fucking hell…

youtu.be/-ncg9ks-MQE

Achievements of the Islamic Emirate for this year (2017):

found!!!
Large & small attacks carried out against enemy: 7503
• 48 were martyrdom attacks

• 289 invaders killed & 124 wounded in these attacks

Army/police/intelligence apparatus of Kabul regime:

14938 deaths
• 409 were commanders

9430 injuries

4196 from army, police and arbaki surrendered to Islamic Emirate over course of previous year

2976 enemy military vehicles destroyed during this period

20 enemy aircraft downed
• 13 helicopters &
fixed-wing airplanes

• 7 unmanned aerial
vehicles, or drones

Kandahar over past 11 month(2017):

- 504 attacks
- 2 districts (Maruf & Shorabak) liberated
- Battalion, 9 Outposts & 104 CPs overrun
- 4 Bases & 23 CPs abandoned
- 25 invaders killed
- 1557 gunmen killed/293 wounded
- 95 detailed/170 surrendered
192 APCs, 152 vehicles & 2 motorbikes destroyed

Great change for their military equipment…

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The same shoes get also Isis in nanghar province!
From october 2017 to nowadays were conducted early 10 overflights from unknown planes! (We counted them, me and flightradar24) highly probably for military/food supply like CIA did in Iraq for Isis

American Air Force continues Daesh rescue operations in Nangarhar

Mujahideen of Islamic Emirate have launched operations against Daesh mischief in Zawia area of Khogyani district, Nangarhar province and have purged many areas from their presence but as usual, American invaders have once again brought airplanes to the area in support of Daesh and bombarded Mujahideen positions repeatedly.

On the 17th, 18th and 19th of the current month of August, American planes carried out 8 drone strikes & two strikes by Jet airplanes on Mujahideen positions, vehicles and defense lines, resulting in 13 Mujahideen and a civilian martyred with 6 others wounded whereas 3 more drone airstrikes failed to cause any harm.

Similarly, American drones targeted those Mujahideen who were about to launch operations against Daesh militia in Lohore Dag area of Munawara district, Kunar province on 18th of August, martyring 3 Mujahideen and leaving 4 others wounded.

Meanwhile the Deashis including a wounded gunman under a siege by Mujahideen were rescued in a ranger pickup trucks by Kabul regime forces following aerial bombardment by the Americans.

3550 deaths 7 July 2018

Precise number! And is still going on…

Support Talibans against Isis. (TTP/TIP if necessary if they will join into Isis ranks) and also make a coalition with Governments for two reasons: together you are stronger, talibans can reach peace easily than other factions and they will never be radical Islamist! They are supported by Iran and this is a point in your favour for Iran change regime.

Also because …
48 enemy soldiers switch side to Islamic Emirate

PAKTIA, Aug. 30 – Al-Emarah News says 31 personnel of local militia have laid down their arms against Islamic Emirate and surrendered themselves and their weapons to Mujahideen in Zazi Aryub district of Paktia province over the past few days.

Similarly, 11 Arbakis joined Mujahideen in Raghistan district of northern Badakhshan province on Wednesday, while an Arbaki surrendered himself to Mujahideen in Baharak district of the province on the same day.

According to a report from northern Balkh province, 4 Arbakis joined up with Mujahideen in Chahar Bolak district of this province on Wednesday.

Likewise, an enemy soldier surrendered himself and his weapon to Mujahideen in Khogyani district of eastern Nangarhar province on Wednesday.

Up to nowadays from 1 January early 678 governments members entered into IEofA ranks

Only for refresh our memory…

Triumphant operations in Jowzjan and the unmasking of Daesh

It was a great moment of joy for the sincere Muslims worldwide and especially for our countrymen when the Mujahideen of Islamic Emirate carried out victorious operations in northern Jowzjan province and handed Daesh an expemplary defeat, completely uprooting their mischief from Darzab and Qushtepa districts and freeing the entire north from their scourge.

These two districts were the strongholds of these militiamen from where they carried out their recruitment campaigns, terrorized the local populations and tried to extend their hands to other areas to sow mischief and division among the Muslims and work against Islam and Mujahideen in accordance with the plans handed to them by the invaders and their hirelings. As the Islamic Emirate recognized this reality and the danger emanating from these areas, it therefore began preparations for and launched a large scale assault on these US sponsored militiamen but due to the unrelenting US airstrikes on Mujahidin formations, the operations lasted for 24 days and with the help of Allah (SWT), the entire area was cleansed from enemy presence on Wednesday of the first week of August.

The operation resulted in 92 Daesh militamen killed, 128 captured by the Mujahideen while the remaining members – including Daesh leader Mawlawi Habibullah, his deputy Mufti Naimat and laison officer Mullah Sibghatullah – besieged by Mujahideen were rescued via helicopters by the Kabul regime and taken to an unknown location following which, the crooked regime announced that 216 armed Daesh members had surrendered to security forces.

Since the pure Islamic government under the name of Islamic Emirate, established by the monumental sacrifices of this Muslim nation, was dismantled and this land occupied by western infidels under the leadership of America therefore the Islamic Emirate considers these foreign occupiers as its true enemies and has declared Jihad against them in defense of our religion, honor and nation until the complete independence of our homeland.

Similarly the Afghan militias propped by America up under various names who fight against the Mujahideen alongside America and protect their interests are also viewed as no less than the occupying enemy in accordance with Quranic texts and Islamic jurisprudence.

However the Afghan youth who have become cannon fodder for foreign invaders and are killed by the Mujahideen, the Islamic Emirate deems it regrettable and a place of pity. The Islamic Emirate spends huge amount of resources and energy to convince them to leave the servitude of America and become the true sons of this nation and defenders of religion, nation and country.

When a group in the name of Daesh calling themselves Mujahideen was formed, it began the systematic killings of religious scholars and tribal elders, labelled the Mujahideen of Islamic Emirate as apostates and fighting the Islamic Emirate as Jihad and in complete conflict with Islamic principles, lured young men with passionate speeches and encouraged them to fight Muslims. The Islamic Emirate began to understand their true nature and viewed them as a project that was even more dangerous than any previous militia incarnations. This development was the carbon copy of the mischief that had plagued Syria and Iraq which rescued the western invaders from imminent defeat and sowed such deep divisions among the Muslims that the bloodletting among their communities continues till this very day.

The Islamic Emirate began to send the leaders of this new group (Daesh) respectable delegations to convince them of their error and dangers of their pathway but unfortunately the Daeshi leaders did not want to understand any logic or principles of Shariah and contrarily, they considered the orders of their self-proclaimed Caliph above any principles and in their deep ignorance called for the disbandment of the Islamic Emirate and obeying the commands of a few unknown Daeshi leaders.

The leaders of Islamic Emirate came to the realization that in order to save itself from defeat, America has employed the same plan that it used in Iraq to divide the Mujahideen, weaken their resolve and cause the Muslims irreparable damage. The plan which turned the successful Jihad of Iraq that had pushed America and her allies to the brink of defeat in the entire Middle East into a miserable defeat, allowing the crumbling regime to cement its power and by losing areas to the enemies, forced the ordinary Muslims to accept a life under terror, shame and humiliation.

But all praise belong solely to Allah, the ranks of Jihad in Afghanistan were united under one command and leadership and with firm resolve, the Islamic Emirate began taking practical steps to stop the spread of this mischief. It began informing the nation about the reality of this group and presented evidence proving ties between them and the American and regime intelligence apparatus, the final irrefutable proof of which is the airlifting of members of this besieged militia by helicopters of the Kabul regime under the orders of America from Darzab district, an act which cannot even be explained or rationalized by Daesh, America or the regime themselves.

The Islamic Emirate has always maintained that the civilians killed by mysterious bombs and explosions around the country is the work of intelligence agencies of America and her stooges. The incident of Darzab has also clarified this fact to the nation because it is these same Daeshis rescued in the helicopters of regime under American orders that have recently killed scores of civilians from Jalalabad all the way to Gardez.

The stooge Kabul regime and the American invaders must understand that they will never attain their malicious goals through policies of insecurity, civilian massacres and prolonging the war. Your hypocrisy and conflict between words and actions lay bare for the entire world to see while the truthfulness and reasonable policies of the Islamic Emirate have also been understood by the nation. The moments are not far when the entire nation shall rise against the invaders in one voice and shall cleanse this blessed land from their despicable presence once and for all.

A’s you can see they hate Daesh, talibans are mujaheddin and if we are in time we can save them from a strong brainwashing ready from Mossad/DIA/M1 military industrial complex to use them for unknown reasons.

They are normal people that can reach (yes I repeat) easily a peace.
(And if Zawahiri will die? For “seniority”?) which situation we will have?

If you want to destabilize Xinjang region is another story and other geopolitic analysis.
I did it 3 years ago and it is terrible! Hundreds of thousands of dead between China militaries and Ultra Dawla (which includes TIP/TTP/JeM/Talibans/AQ members (all)/HTS/LashkaralIslam/Mercenaries) think an Afghanistan in black
is all possible and then that attack Iran, out of your control. You behind a screen in furious mode because your secret plan was ruined by deep state…

Think better!

What the fuck are you on about? Between your reddit spacing and clear lack of orthography, I'm at a loss as to what you're so persistently trying to vomit onto your keyboard.

I think he is a phoneposting afgan that lives in italy and likes qanon and the mujahadeen

Write my lack of orthography that I will fix it!

No!

If your brain is too small to reach my analysis I continue to write so you will leave your geopolitical porn (or better yours porn actress in your mind) that Zig Forums is full of self masturbator

Judging by your apparent ideological inclinations, I'd prefer you not improve your English. What is your native tongue?

Is typical of Americans to create strange situations that nowadays are early impossible to resolve, I call this geopolitic porn.

See Iraq/Syria/Libya/Afghanistan/Africa… list is so long… I’m agree with Russian ambassador in Onu when said:”wherever you go you destroy all”.

Onu=organizzazione delle nazioni unite=United nation but UN is ugly to write, like French is so romantic

Swahili 🤡

I am not from the american continent
How do you know all this shitty jihad groups btw??

Wait are a literal african
On fucking Zig Forums
And leftypol jesus…

QAnon is a team that use a quantum computer of IBM

I read from a male user of 8ch that he is beatiful, when he has to use “handsome”… 😏

Haha dude plz stay on leftypol
You literally write with an accent its beutyful

I’ve finished to write here!

I repeat I get the corrector so some errors aren’t mine (infact I have to correct it many times like now he separate word errors in “error so”) continue your porn, that all the world understood that behind the peace between USA and NK there was Lavrov 😘.

P.S. Hassan Rouhani is waiting for your invincible fleet in Persian gulf!

As i said i am not an american
And you did not really awnsered any questions
So i guess we will never know
Adios african schoolar

wait are the Taliban actually at war with ISIS?

Schooler* or student
It was really hard to decrypt your word!!!

Well Al-qaeda is through the Al-nusra front
It's really common for those kinds of groups to clash because they all have a different view on their religion.