Patriotism and left-wing "nationalism"

If people are out actually building socialism why does it matter if they wave American flags?

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the idea that mobilizes the people does not have to be nationalism. has the right idea, if you purposefully create a national ideology that will eventually need to be destroyed for your ends to be achieved you're going to end up creating a sentiment of alienation and disenchantment among the population

There's no such thing. The idea that there is an identity between proletarians and capitalists is a bourgeois lie that must be exposed as such.

Bake at 350° take, grandparents were capitalists and if you are a capitalist you support fascism. Germany doesn't speak English so we sided with Anglo fascists.

why? it's not even heavy on theory or anything, something you can watch while doing whatever else, adressing outsiders
but i agree, it's always better to have the OPs take on something and not just a link with a question

I've given my thoughts on the subject: "Patriotism and left-wing 'nationalism'".

That reasoning also applies to national liberation, but you wouldn’t denounce Castro or Ho Chi Minh. The value of anti-imperialist nationalism is that even though it is reactionary in the long term, in that context it serves a revolutionary purpose. The same can be said I think, of any proletarian nationalism that has socialist ethics and ideals at its core.

You’re missing my point. I’m not suggesting that we erase class distinctions, rather I’m suggesting that we create a new sense of national identity that goes hand in hand with proletarian identity, and the bourgeoise are seen as parasitic, and antagonistic to the interests of the people.

Your take is hotter than mine fam. If you unironically think that liberalism is the same as fascism you need to read Gramsci.

Anyone who disagrees with the video is american

not only that, but according to lenin, this type of nationalism should be encouraged. the shit-for-brains "leftists" whining about ☭TANKIE☭s' defending dprk, assad, etc., dont know what the fuck dialectics are.