we don't, we just disagree with it lmao
If Marx and lenin didn't want a bureocratic state
Ian Harris
Kevin Brown
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Nathan Barnes
Jason Williams
I was thinking about this the other day. Capitalism is easy to organize because there are no ideas behind, not really. Us, the left, have a huge trouble organizing because we care so much about so many things. We need to find a way to unite anyway, is the only way
Leo Martinez
You obviously never been to any place that has anarchism traits. I invite you to visit Valparaiso, Chile. If it were not attached to Chile it would be perfect.
David Adams
I get the criticism anarchism gets. Its implementation is really tricky. But how is it that building a super huge state and expect it to just dissolve after there are no more classes not an Utopia?
Leo Cooper
There is one single difference. I strongly suggest reading up on Anarchism and Marxism. Preferably, from non-meme sources (like tl;drs "helpfully" written by Liberals).
>> Some admit that the USSR turned into a burocratic shit hole after Lenin
You can't even keep the dates straight.
Moreover, you don't seem to understand what "bureaucratic shithole after Lenin" supposed to mean - it is used as an argument against Central Planning (first Five-Year plan) and for decentralized "planning" (i.e. market "socialism").
Isaiah Brown
Nobody objects to authoritarian measures against people literally literally trying to kill you for being diametrically opposed to you and that quote is stupid at best and deliberate bad faith at worst.
The question of authority is a question of how things should be run under a stabilized society, not one in the middle of a war with itself.
Josiah Clark
because they don't read him 8)
Jason Campbell
That's a dumb meme. Anarchists often remain Anarchist after reading Marx, since that objectively is in their class interests. Which is Petite-Bourgeoisie, btw.
They have nothing to gain from Communist society.
Also this.
It's really tiresome to repeat again and again (since some people seem to think - or pretend to think - that there is a need to hide goals of Communists, there is overabundance of "aKshually, Communism and Anarchism are the same"), but the real difference between Communism and Anarchism is the one between the goals, not the methods. While the general idea is the same (abolition of wage labour), the way future society is envisioned is cardinally different.
There is no "unity", no reconciliation, and there cannot be either. By Anarchist standards Communism society is no different from Capitalist society. And by standards of reality, Anarchist society with industrial production is no different from pipe dream.
This is easily seen if you take a look at how the economy supposed to function under Anarchism and under Marxism (provided you don't trust Wolff, obviously).