Revolutionary to Liberal pipeline

And? The difference is that their political horizons didn't begin and end with electoralism.

They were never "radical-minded" in the first place. They were always neolibs who appropriated ML vocabulary to appear like a radical, without ever having to take the difficult steps of actually being a revolutionary. These people lead marches and talk tough on tv, but then leave the march and go to a 5-star comped dinner with the head of corporations and government agencies. Lmao you really think millionaires like Spike Lee don't secretly want the status quo maintained and republican politicians so his taxes are low?

That’s true, but imo there’s nothing wrong with using electoralism. Explicitly denying any one tactic seems to me to be an unnecessary handicap.

The USA's foundational myths and documents form a religion. People don't realize it but the US is essentially a "secular theocracy", it's actually quite interesting. What I mean by this is, the USA has the appearance of being an areligious country due to the tolerance of multiple religions and, more recently, the tolerance of a large number of nonreligious people.

However, America itself is a religion. The Declaration and Constitution and figures such as Washington, Jefferson, Hamilton and later ones like the Roosevelts, the Kennedys, Ronald Reagan, etc, are all Saints. One of the most important rituals for the American religion is the voting ritual or the electoralism ritual.

See, from its inception and from each individual Americans birth, it has been relentlessly pounded into their heads that no matter their religious, political affiliation or economic/racial background we are all Americans and all have "equal opportunity" under the American system. Therefore, it's very hard for even more Leftist minded Americans to think outside of the box of Americanism. Chris Hedges is a wonderful example of this. His analysis of America is not a scientific deconstruction of the flaws and contradictions inherent in its social and economic systems but rather a perpetual eulogy for an America that was "lost". If you read his book "Death of the Liberal Class" Hedges doesn't actually explain how to move forward or use the death of America's liberal class to advocate socialism, he simply laments its death and shames those who he deems responsible for it.

The vision of America Hedges constantly eulogizes is really a perfect model for how most American Leftists and left-liberals see "socialism" working in the USA. See, in the aforementioned book, Hedges constantly references the old school American labor movement, the IWW, Eugene Debs, and the golden age of the CPUSA, but not because he agrees with their vision or their goals but because their existence and tolerance helped cuck the Democrats of the time enough to create the first comprehensively American welfare state. Hedges argument is essentially that if the Keynesianism of the New Deal had have never been touched and the American "Deep State" (for lack of a better term) had stayed sufficiently small and not been allowed to pursue the Red Scares and Cold War propaganda, the social upheavals of the 60s and 70s would have resulted in a perpetually progressive. He even goes so far as to blame the existence of the USSR as such for the death of this version of the American dream, because if "true socialism" had been allowed there Stalinism wouldn't have happened and thus the USA wouldn't have felt so threatened by Russian "imperialism" and so on.

Basically the American Left in the 21st Century is largely just a left-liberal deviation of the American religion. It believes that the foundational ideology of the country is essentially good no matter how relentlessly it critiques the praxis carried out to advance said ideology and thus doesn't want communism but a perpetual social democracy which tolerates radicals and their orgs/parties and even allows them participation in government if they want it. The irony of course being that since radical Leftists must destroy every last trace of the American religion, due to it being essentially 100 percent capitalist/liberal in nature, this left-liberal deviation of Americanism will eventually have to crush it as it did in the Red Scares and then blame the victim, which is the very thing "Leftists" such as Hedges bitch about.

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Bolshevik electoralism meant voting for Bolshevik candidates—not a liberal party.

And more to this point see how the majority of anti war protesters went about criticizing the war in Vietnam. While there was a large Leftist sect that wanted an end to imperialism and self-determination for Vietnam, the majority of those in the movement were against it because "our guys" were dying. There was never one instant of consideration of the lives of the Vietnamese or economic domination, they were just simply upset that "our guys" had to die "for nothing" which implies that if LBJ (and then Nixon) could have cooked up a sufficiently decent explanation for why we had to go to Vietnam and stay there, everyone would have been on board with it. This sentiment still exists in what is left of the movement in today's America, with the majority of antiwar organizing until very recently being a constant crying out about "the troops" dying "for nothing". Its why said movement was almost completely obliterated under Obama, because the left-liberal deviation saw him as a Saint sufficient to demand sacrifice and tribute.

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Last point and then I'll stop posting but this is also why the majority of "opposition" and "resistance" in the Trump era constantly talk about how Trump is "unfit" to be President and literally spend every day attempting to psychoanalyze him. Their issue with Trump isn't that his cabinet is simply accelerating the process of American imperialism that's existed probably since the creation of the nation, it's that he's not a "good" Saint that he is "demeaning" the holy office and besmirching the name of America.

It's literally how Catholics react when a Pope is chosen who does the same horrendous shit the Catholic Church has always done but more out in the open (or for Rightist Catholics, tries to hard to hide it such as Pope Francis has done). It's not that we have to fundamentally restructure or perhaps even completely destroy the Church on every last level and create something new, it's that the Church "isn't perfect" but it's "the best church we got" and if we could just simply get rid of the loser corrupting the Sainthood the Church would go back to functioning "correctly" and even self-improve.

Eh, not really. Maybe back in the 1950's they did, but I was always drilled with "equal access" and "equal protection under the law". I never heard anyone say "equal opportunity", or if they did, it was in realtion to "equal access" - meaning no one would be denied access to something like the market or schools for immutible factors like race. It's a bit dramatic, and perhaps a little disingenuous, to suggest the average American even thinks about politics and US government outside of a red team vs blue team sportsball game.

It's almost like liberals aren't revolutionary communists or something…

Wow dude trivializing everything I said across three posts to "haha liberals r dumb xD" sure "refutes" what I said you incompetent faggot

It's people like you who ruined the quality of discussion here