Animal Farm is a retelling if the Russian Revolution from a ⛏️rotskyist perspective and a warning against bureaucratic opportunism.
1984 was a look into state suppression and control based, not on the Soviet system or any fascist system, but in Plato’s Republic. It’s a three tiered society (Inner Party = Guardians, Outer Party = Auxiliaries, Proles = Producers) with a strict censorship regime, the employment of the “Noble Lie” to justify the social order, etc. It wasn’t a condemnation of any one system and indeed, Orwell thought that all nations would end up something akin to it.
I think this should be contrasted with the way Burgerland has used them as propaganda, where Animal Farm is instead turned into a parable about why socialism always fails and 1984 is a depiction of the enemies of the American political regime (foreign nations hostile to the US are basically Ingsoc/Oceana and domestic and foreign agents hostile to the American political establishment want Ingsoc IRL.) The enemies of the American political establishment are almost always painted as “totalitarian”, often in ridiculous ways with wild accusations against said foreign regimes which are almost always promptly forgotten about if military intervention is used on said countries. Anyone remember Sadam’s torture circuses? Or any of the other shit he was accused of by “human rights” organizations while he was in power?
Gabriel Cruz
i remember a story about a meatgrinder he'd throw people into and watch get minced
Except there was commodity exchange between producers, that's precisely the problem.
Daniel Clark
in the SU? you're talking about the collective farms that weren't developed enough?
Justin Sanchez
I think it was more a hatred of Catholicism that the Irish themselves.
Benjamin Lewis
The irony of using Orwell’s work as a propaganda tool is that they are effectively proving the points he makes in 1984, especially regarding censorship, mass hysteria in the form of indoctrination, and politics as a quasi religion.
Jonathan Thompson
It's not that he was ambiguous, but that right wingers are revisionists.
Austin Jenkins
I've read 1984 and it's good shit, haven't read Animal Farm yet but it sounds interesting. Orwell probably should have acknowledged how reactionaries could so easily appropriate the superficial themes of his novels to make them seem like an advocacy of their politics though.
Gabriel Bennett
Alright, but incredibly basic. They're babby's first political allegory and their messages are very simple and unprofound, not that that hasn't stopped people from failing to understand them.
