Article 13 creates an obligation on information society service providers storing and giving access to large amounts of works and other subject-matter uploaded by their users to take appropriate and proportionate measures to ensure the functioning of agreements concluded with rightholders and to prevent the availability on their services of content identified by rightholders in cooperation with the service providers”
This would remove the ‘safe harbours’ that have been a long-term bugbear for music rightsholders, who see them as responsible for the ‘value gap’ between the music royalties paid by platforms like YouTube, and those that do not benefit from safe harbours, like Spotify and Apple Music.
Critics of Article 13 argue that it would damage key principles of free expression online by forcing platforms to filter anything that might be copyrighted content, while also damaging the chances of small internet startups to compete with giants like Google/YouTube, who can afford to spend tens of millions of dollars building tools like the latter’s ContentID to comply with the legislation.
The news is already being celebrated by music rightsholders and their representative bodies, but will come as a blow to the technology companies and activists who had been campaigning against the proposal.
Independent body Impala was one of the first to hail the news, describing it as a “great result for creators”. Boss Helen Smith had published an opinion piece earlier this week defending the proposed legislation. “Nobody in our community is suggesting ‘tearing down the internet.’ What we are asking lawmakers to do is to make sure that it works for everyone,” she wrote.
what the fuck does this even mean can someone tell me what this says in brainlets terms
Connor Anderson
Its legalese for "do whatever the fuck ip owners tell you to or be arrested"
Noah Powell
Every website is required to have Youtube-style copyright filters
Jaxson Gomez
can they enforce this on 8ch?
Lincoln Howard
also does it only affect Europeans or what
Jack Myers
Honestly not sure. I imagine it's pretty much how the GDPR is working.
Leo Lee
They voted 438-226, so it was not even close. That lobbying money was put to good use. I sure hope that the record companies and movie studios are happy now, while they still can.
I mean even the guys from the Communist Party in my country voted to pass it so of course people are suspicious of any Eurocoms.
Other than that we are not forced to Illegally trade memes
Leo Fisher
Wait, Article 13 was approved? They rejected this shit earlier this year.
Xavier Nguyen
No it was rejected by the commission,meaning the law needed a parliamentary vote to be approved. And here it is.
Jaxson Cox
Good, no one likes a memespouting retard.
Memes are also used by the CIA to control morons just like you.
Tyler Williams
Yeah of course the problem are memes…
Angel Scott
"Muh memes" is a red herring for children and the reason there are lobotomized retards crying about how "ARTICLE 13 WAS WRITTEN BY LEFTISTS TO CENSOR PEPE" now. It was never about muh memes, it's about porky enforcing his copy"rights".
Wyatt Adams
If this finally puts a stop to anime culture then I'm fine with it.
This is terrible, because as hints, making memes is going to become an even edgier and more contrarian affair. It contributes to the very politics which fuels the revived right: it is not a conservative barring of fun but rather a frenzy of enjoyment at the thought of being those whom the liberals want to shut up. It is an example of why Freudian repression does not work so well as any psychoanalyst worth their salt would understand.
Similar to youtube copyright strikes. The system is abused to censor people who make content that is politically incorrect, or deemed "hate speech" or anti-lgbt or anti-liberal-values. the "copyright" issue is just a pretense in most cases. The real issue is someone is using media to promote an ideology contrary to the norm. This affects advertisers on various platforms and many other things.
Gabriel Martin
we must embrace worldwide internet communism today
Vast majority of copyright strikes on youtube have nothing to do with politics, it's just that when something political gets taken down instead of despacito nightcore 10 hours it instantly gets publicity.
Typical, when porky does something shitty and is about to get heat Zig Forums comes out of the woodwork talking about how it's SJWs and commies and not le hard working entrepreneurs.
Jace Scott
Chinese or North Korean internet model? What would the internet look like under Stalin? Would there be gold-farming gulags for Wow players?
Logan Morris
What practical implications does this have for the average internet user?
Jason Long
less chance to hear dissident content, from either the left or right, so practically the normie internet user is more likely to remain comfortably numb
Levi Powell
Websites will be forced to have youtube-style content filters, you personally will probably not be penalized for posting "copyrighted memes" but many smaller content aggregator websites will suffer or even go down.
Austin Martin
Also if this was passed by the Trump administration instead of the EU, Zig Forums would celebrate like they did with the net neutrality repeal
Christian Johnson
Is it finally the end for 4chan and Zig Forums?
If so, it has been a fucking romp lads
Josiah Jones
Plus a lot of the right-wing shit that ends up getting banned really is abrasive troll-tier stuff. I remember going back for years there've been loads of sites where white supremacy or obsessive homophobia could get you banned - when YT does stuff like that (and they don't always, and sometimes they make big buxx from white supremacists) it's mostly on their own volition over site policy or because a poor ability to discern between genuine grievances and mass-flagging.
The EU could easily pressure them directly to be more censorious - right now, it looks like the EU doesn't give a fuck and just wants to keep shooting itself in the foot after Brexit. But, yeah, this is about pandering to megacorps, and a lot of the original content that gets caught up in it is going to be "collateral damage" because they just don't give a shit about art or speech.
Jaxon Smith
That's also true. The EU could easily pass a law directly forcing websites to censor hate speech, without being so roundabout about it, and nobody would be able to stop it. But that would actually mess with corporations a little bit and above all they don't care. They're just making returns on those delicious lobby investments.
Nicholas James
free-speech is an empty value; people demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use.
Camden Rivera
Is there a list of who voted for and against?
Brody Lee
I fucking hope so
Oliver Wilson
idk, but during the previosu vote pretty much only GUE-NGL, the socdems and the one very far right party was against it, the greens, liberals and conservatives all voted in favour. Judging by the votes now, I don't think this changed
It means content id everywhere for audio, text, and pictures
Joseph Wood
How would this actually effect me? Are they gonna fuck with my torrent sites?
Jaxson Torres
Nah, they are already pretty illegal.
Ryder Kelly
Yeah I don't think there was any pretense of legality even before.
Tyler Price
but does it mean more OC? would for example cropping a picture of kanye's love it be illegal?
Juan Williams
The wording is so imprecise, it'll really depend on who is suing who. Not that normally it isn't the case, but with ad-hoc laws like this one, it's the expected standard.
Noah Sullivan
Well at least, we are not immediately fucked.
Logan Thompson
Doesn't sound like it changes copyright law, so I don't see how memes could be illegal. It's just "You have to, as a content sharing site/company, make sure that what's being shared, isn't copyrighted / breaks copyright law". AKA What YouTube have been doing for ~10 years. And what's the punishment for not having a content-ID filter?
Matthew Bailey
Now more than ever you need your info and cyberSec - learn your Tails and Tor and VPNs and the whole jazzy stew
Hunter King
The main diferrence here, is that it's not the copyrightholders that will sue websites owners, it's the European Union itself with it's own laws and courts that might sue you if one of your users upload something illegal.
Julian Brown
Obviously not going to happen.
Leo Kelly
WHat's most likely to happen is that google and friends just completely blacks out EU countries.
Camden Cruz
Why? They are already filtering content.
Nathan Evans
Also, possible example with Zig Forums : Now :
After art 13 :
I hope you're right but if not, websites will have even more constraining filters to avoid the risk, or there won't be a website at all.
Zachary Turner
Thank god Soulseek exists
Lincoln Moore
Isn't that the case now though? If people start uploading CP, copyrighted movies etc., and Zig Forums allows it, Zig Forums would get fucked.
It's not that strict it feels like. It's "To the best of your ability". So, you can technically let something slip through.
I don't like A13, just don't see why right-wing memers like count dankula is screaming the end of the internet etc. fear mongering.
I guess EU will end up blocking a bunch of sketchy sites? If they even can do that…hmm. Idk…idk… will wait for someone to really break this down.
Jeremiah Nguyen
Copyright law as a whole is capitalist cancer. I don't know why any leftist would try to defend it.
Can someone explain to how the fuck the EU parliament works?
Connor Ross
It has to be ratified by the 27 countries. Not a fuckin chance it'll pass in the Irish parliament at least. All the big internet companies including Google have their servers and hq in Ireland. The Dail wouldn't give that up.
Nolan Martinez
The big internet companies want the article 13, copyrights is in their interests. All the lobbyists in Ireland will vote for, like in every other country.
In the worst case, we won't be able to post images (and other stuff like .webm, .mp4 .pdf, etc.), but I don't see why textboarding-only would not survive.
Jack Bell
Keywords "and allows it". Under current legislation it's illegal to not take it down after takedown is requested. With this legislation it would be illegal to not filter it at the point of upload.
Joseph Wilson
Except it is not even abrasive at all, it is only positioned as being so. That's the lure of the new fascism and the growing reactionary storm, at least for the hordes of manchildren who are masturbating to such bullshit. No, it's fucking boring and superstitious. They're not new; they're not 'hip'. They are the continuation of the same kind of contrarian capitalist-consumer culture (excuse my aliteration) that we've been plagued with for decades. They've learned to be seen as an underground resistance of sorts.
Jacob Butler
You don't understand. Anarcho-capitalism is not what the rich elite want, they don't want there to be no regulations and thus a way they can control every bit of your life and squeeze out however much profit they can!
That's why it is edgy to share those yellow/black ball memes about child sex slaves!
Brandon Thompson
I only care about one thing: will I be able to upload and, more importantly, download PDFs from various sites?
The last place of FREEZE PEACH will be a literal Mongolian Basket weaving forum. And when I say Mongolian you will need to live in Mongolia.
Jack Stewart
Good. Now a Socialist internet can finally be implemented by the future EU super-state. No more pro-Trump CIA memes now.
Jordan Ramirez
This is actually true though
Ethan Sanchez
Does nearly every damn nation in the EU have to approve of these measures though, and then hash out whatever they will actually say is kosher? For the most part it seems like only France, the UK and Spain, and the EPP as a whole (aside from a few members) want to implement this.
Joshua Sullivan
Only if the pdf does not infringe copyrights.
Only if the pdf on the website does not infringe copyrights.
Brayden Hughes
I have no idea how copyright laws work, my only condition for a PDF is that it's free and the full text.
Carter Howard
The EU want to make sure a website will need to respect copyrights, it means that it will need the approval of the rightholders. The rightholders might don't give a fuck or ask money to the website. If the website have the content but without the copyrights (approval of rightholders), the EU might sue the website. So the wesbite will need to filter the content regarding to copyrights.
Liam Scott
This only effects the EU, right? We still have tor and can upload onto those types of websites torrent files with a VPN, BO is a reddit enabling fag.
Aaron Lopez
I'm already under house arrest so doesn't make a difference. I just pirate movies and vidya
Jaxson Moore
If the market was really free, people would buy socialism
Brody Gray
Why?
Jaxon White
Communist Fingollia is underrated.
Jack Morales
Without books, there is no purpose for my armchair.
I might as well post the real results for France : -Marie-Pierre VIEU (PCF), vote FOR. -Patrick LE HYARIC (PCF), vote FOR. -Younous OMARJEE (LFI), ABSTENTION. -Marie-Christine VERGIAT (GUE-NGL), ABSTENTION.
It's a sad day for leftists in France, there's more right-wing MEPs who voted against than left-wing MEPs.
