Socialist Party of America

Given current wages VS cost of living do you think it could get a shot today? Just look at the motto. They managed to shut it down when the working conditions were good and the working class had good life, but it's long gone. Their comeback is long overdue… just think if all McDonalds and Amazon employees got together and agreed to restart it.

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Could it work?
Yes/No/Maybe
Why?

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third party's will never win in burgerland, the best case we have is for a democrat to run with a very socialist agenda like with Bernie but not a socdem

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They wouldn't allow someone like that to get far, sadly.

Why does America not have an ML party? All they have is "demsocs", socdems, and Trotskyists.

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Thanks, comrades.

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I’ve heard that’s bullshit made up wholecloth from like 3 TERF wreckers who are intentionally spreading lies as petty vengeance for getting expelled from the party for factionalism.

I think the PSL is the most viable option for a Marxist-Leninist party right now. They got 74,000 votes in the 2016 US presidential election.
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what the fuck?

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Socialist alternative calls for putting the top 500 corporation under workers management.
Its our best shot and the best compromise between MLs and libcoms.
Theyve also made progress as city councils.

lol you faggots need to get over your insecurities of being called a socdem and just join D.S.A. (and the Refoundation or Communist Caucus). It's literally the only option that has any viable potential.

or you can join some obscure sectarian LARPing group so you can impress your online buddies

Once again, PCUSA says these claims are bullshit put forward by wreckers and there’s no evidence.

So far, no actual evidence has been put forward.

no thanks

I agree, best option might be entryism into democratic party and switching from identity politics+capitalism to socialism.

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It doesn’t have to be a purely electoral party.

Apparently they’ve released Party-made E-books which is cool. But they charge you money for it which sucks. Hopefully there’s a copy on Pirate’s Bay.
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lmao who actually made this?

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good people of Zig Forums did.

Tbh the good thing about D.SA is that their praxis means that being a member is not mutually exclusive with supporting communist parties like the PSL or SAlt, etc. All they do is work to mobilize votes for particular candidates of their choosing, so a local chapter could well prove instrumental in getting an oppenly leftist candidate into local office. Tbh there’s no reason not to join them, since they allow for a wide range of politics under their banner, have some name recognition (everybody else are literally who as far as the average prole is concerned) and have many genuine communists in their ranks. If there’s any group with the right combination of political disposition and relevance to make entryism viable, then it’s D.SA.

You'll need some retired senior gov't staff just to make a list of the measures preventing this type of ideology from ever catching up again in the US. Then you can start working your way around, but that's not what a group of workers or young people can ever hope to accomplish by themselves. I believe the level of protection given to the system can only be understood and worked around if you get help from inside.

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To be honest with myself I have no idea what the correct strategy or path is – and I have a feeling that a lot of leftists don't either and there is a lot of posturing and self-aggrandizement about proper theory going on. Now, there are a lot of Marxists out there who are way smarter than me and do know a lot about strategy and theory.

But in any case my attitude is that the clock is ticking and you only have one life, so I'll just join and find ways to contribute, and shut my mouth and listen to the more experienced people. And regarding other orgs, as long as they don't engage in inordinate amounts of squabbling with other left groups then I'll support them. The only groups that I have a problem with are the ones that only seem to pick fights with other leftists. There are a handful of groups like that and I am deeply suspicious of them.

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I'd say atleast offer to legalize prostitution but leftists are against selling sex too

SPUSA (what the SPA is actually called) actually has a pretty decent platform and continues to run candidates but zero representation or traction.

You guys have said before that ML is the only realistic form of socialism.
Yet the socialist party usa calls for putting corporations under workers management and running the economy democratically.
You guys are rigid thinkers and not open to alternating anything that's not within lenin's tomes.
Its almost like you're conservatives in leftist clothing.

fuck off retard there's more than one poster on this website

You can't call someone out on hypocrisy for contradicting what a completely different person says. People disagree.

The idea that all we need is the right name, or the right motto or a cool looking flag is pretty silly. There are dozens of leftist political organizations in the United States and almost all of them are completely irrelevant.

Before any party has a chance of succeeding in the United States class counciousness needs to exist.

How do you get class consciousness when all unions have been busted?