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Jackson Moore
Nolan Perez
yeah, but all i'm saying is that Mao's achievements came with the added knowledge of less fanatical leaders like Zhou and Deng, the minute he started espousing his own ideals of economic policies things got very messy.
And speaking about the USSR, it's economic history is quite colorful aswell, buying suspension designs from american tank designers and smuggling in colorless coke
Nathan Garcia
you bring up smuggling in colourless coke like it was a big thing
it was just a personal order that zhukov requested, nothing more.
Matthew Parker
nothing can say "socialism" better than treating most equal comrades in better way than majority of population
Angel Bennett
what's next? muh dachas?
yeah dude zhukov ordered some coca cola woah why didn't every soviet citizens get some how oppresive this isn't true socialism
Parker Morgan
I'm just saying the board seems to think in black and white, while in reality even the USSR had to do some back door deals with the americans to get technology, even to a point where one could argue stalin was
"in awe" of america's productive power.
hence essentially proving deng right, you need to be top dog to do any sort of socialism without your own people starting to leer over the fence, even if it means exploitation in a foreign country for the slight chance of becoming rich.
marxists.org
Ludwig: I notice that in the Soviet Union everything American is held in very high esteem, I might even speak of a worship of everything American, that is, of the Land of the Dollar, the most out-and-out capitalist country. This sentiment exists also in your working class, and applies not only to tractors and automobiles, but also to Americans in general. How do you explain that?
Stalin: You exaggerate. We have no especially high esteem for everything American, nut we do respect the efficiency that the Americans display in everythingÑin industry, in technology, in literature and in life. We never forget that the U.S.A. is a capitalist country. But among the Americans there are many people who are mentally and physically healthy who are healthy in their whole approach to work, to the job on hand. That efficiency, that simplicity, strikes a responsive chord in our hearts. Despite the fact that America is a highly developed capitalist country, the habits prevailing in its industry, the practices existing in productive processes, have an element of democracy about them, which cannot be said of the old European capitalist countries, where the haughty spirit of the feudal aristocracy is still alive.
Ludwig: You do not even suspect how right you are.
Stalin: Maybe I do; who can tell?
In spite of the fact that feudalism as a social order was demolished long ago in Europe, considerable relies survive in manner of life and customs. There are still technicians, specialists, scientists and writers who have sprung from the feudal environment and who carry aristocratic habits into industry, technology, science and literature. Feudal traditions have not been entirely demolished.
That cannot be said of America, which is a country of "free colonists," without landlords and without aristocrats. Hence the sound and comparatively simple habits in American productive life. Our business executives of working-class origin who have visited America at once noted this trait. They relate, not without a certain agreeable surprise, that on a production job in America it is difficult to distinguish an engineer from a worker by outward appearance. That pleases them, of course.
Adam Bennett
Well, you are right. It really is oppressive. Having privileges others don't have just because those people wield political power kind of sucks and comes pretty close to being an actual class distinction if it isn't one.
Daniel Ortiz
if you determine the class nature of a country on something so petty you're being kinda silly.
is coca cola a privilege? can you really call it a "class distinction"? maybe if soviet officials were eating fancy food with coca cola while the average soviet citizen was eating rats we could consider it, but that's not the case.
Chase Lee
He was instrumental in saving the world from fascism. He deserves to have a coke.