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Not true I do as well. Perhaps if the Bolsheviks had negotiated the existence of an autonomous region in Ukraine then the kulak problem could have been resolved. Or blame for it could have at least been dumped on the anarkiddies.

I'm neutral about him. Maybe the Bolsheviks should have made Makhnovshina an autonomous region where the anarkiddies could do their larp experiment in peace. If nothing else it would make for many "Florida Man" style news in the USSR

I'm a leninist and I don't really hate Makhno. I'm skepitcal of his anarchism, and I don't really this his region had no state, but he's still a socialist worth vaguely defending

You're ML? You wear an Angry Cat flag though. That's more syndicalist/IWW

Exactly. Let socialists with vaguely differing views go their own way. That's where the problems were with the USSR, ML and ☭TANKIE☭s in general. All such purist mofos

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#Makhno respecter squad reporting in

>makhno: watch this youtube.com/watch?v=jGofoatz-20&t=37s

part of the problem for Makhno was that his free territory existed in a pretty strategic location in eastern and southern Ukraine, the breadbasket as well as the buffer zone of Soviet Russia as well as on the Black sea, the red army was gonna gain control of the area one way or another

lol ☭TANKIE☭s actually believe this

I think the red armies campaign in the free territory of pacification by just going to villages and shooting the population was worse than the holohoax

he was very committed to its ideals but he wasn't a very sophisticated political thinker, he printed money and on the back of the bills it said "anyone can print bills like these"

its endearing and charming but also exemplifies the simplistic politics of the free territory, they really had no effective way of appealing to workers in the cities, it was very much a rural movement of cavalry and controlling the countryside

the villages were encouraged but not forced to adopt a form of governance typical of anarchism with direct democracy and of course collectivization of the land, even in smaller areas

With all this said his black army was one of the coolest forces in the Russian civil war, the best cavalry there was, utilizing guerilla tactics and of course inventing the god damn tachanka. Even if you are a ☭TANKIE☭ you owe a debt of gratitude towards Makhno, his defeat of Denikins forces potentially averted him from marching straight into Moscow when the revolution was under heavy attack. The Black baron, General Wrangel and his forces was also taken out with great contribution by the Makhnovischna

Makhnovites didn't invent the tachanka

I dunno, Im just trusting revisionist 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧wikipedia🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachanka

I dunno, maybe the six sources are lying?

I don't know much of anything about Makhno. Can anyone give me a quick rundown on the differences between him and other anarcho-communists like Kropotkin and the CNT-FAI?

Tsarist Russian Army used them in WW1 already, Makhno was simply notorious for inventing the tactic of using them in mass numbers like Mongolian cavalry archers. Other sides in the Civil War used them as well, so the genealogy is really blurred. He likely gave it the name tho.

nah. tho it must be said: Makhno was ten times more centralizing than the bolsheviks at that time. (read Colin Darch)

I used to identify as a Syndicalist, and have posted under the black cat flag for a long time. When I transitioned into my current position (which I’d call soft-ML or ML-lite) I just kept the flag. Also I really love American socialism and labour movements and their iconography, for example I designed pic related which still shows up on leftypol occasionally.

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main difference between CNT-FAI and the free territory would be that the Spanish anarchists actually had control of a major industrial hub in Barcelona, they were a product of the modern, urban working class, meanwhile the Free territory was essentially mostly a confederacy of peasants who had gotten sick of all the different empires and war lords who raided through their area, so they turned to Makhno, an anarchist war lord. An absolutely brilliant warrior and commander. but it wasn't a very sophisticated form of anarchism.

Meanwhile the anarchist Catalonian revolution took partly place in a modern capitalist area. It is in some ways far more impressive. Heroic, libertarian war lords there have been many of.

Hmm you are probably quite correct. Possibly some Ukrainians soldiers in the Tsarist army could have been inventors that then took the idea home to Donetsk? Hmm Im grasping at straws. I was gonna say that he "popularized" it instead of "invented" it. Makhno is such a mythical and badly documented character that it makes perfect sense that he'd erroneously be attributed with the invention of the tachanka. Oh well

Yeah, he made it into an actual thing instead of something Russian troops just did ad-hoc. So he maybe invented it but also not. I'm not trying to belittle the black army, just pointing out historical trivia

Mahkno's Agrarian / Economic Reform failed because of the Black Army's inability to maintain constant control over its territory
There are Multiple noted cases when the Black Army would March into a Village and declare the Lands Collectivized only to not be able to sufficently enforce the System and Kulaks would move back in within a short matter of time
Lets be honest here the Free Territory was a Military Junta with Makhno and his Lieutenants being the De-Facto government ok? ok

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drive-by_shooting

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That song is amazing
youtu.be/h_T7bD4pAlE

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Do you seriously think Makhno was the first person to come up with the idea of putting a gun on a horse cart? Horse/chariot archers were a thing since the fucking Hittites. Hussites used war wagons with guns in the reformation wars. Tsarist troops used tachankas in WW1
Makhno came up with the idea of using tachankas as the core of his combat doctrine. Even then, the extent of their use by the Black Army is disputed. The Soviet First Horse Army, the largest cavalry detachment of the civil war, only used about 100 tachankas because machineguns were so scarce and valuable even in the vast Russian SFSR. It is doubtful that Black Ukraine could spare even that many. They were just heavily romanticized.

not really, it's just a good meme.

I consider myself a ML, and I appreciate Comrade Makhno. Honestly, platformism and specifism are the only branches of anarchist thought that I can imagine succeeding in a crisis-laden West.

These are some of the reasons why I like Makhno. Except for the unfortunate lack of state violence against the kulaks, this nigga was bretty gud

Chris Ealham (anarchist historian) concludes in his works on Catalonia that the warnings by the Bolsheviks on the rich peasants and landowners were ultimately right and the anarchists lacked foresight.

20th century anarchos had a soft-spot for kulaks and IMO Darch offers a pretty excellent explanation for this: there was always a strain of "return to the land, to simpler times, without state intervention, etc." in anarchism.

purge your faggotries, ancomrades

I don't think anarchists nowadays would commit the same mistake regarding kulaks and other petty exploiters. Of course they would have to get rid of their kiddies first, before actually implementing their platform.