Seriously, what did he mean by this. First he gleefully burns down the socialist movement for a shitty pizza commercial, and then he acts suprised that the world gets fucked
Gorbachov Hate Thread
Grayson Smith
William Nelson
Tbh I seriously doubt that things in the USSR played out the way Gorbachev intended. Imo he was probably hoping to go China's route, with the privatization of large sections of the economy while keeping the USSR intact and the CPSU in power. Keep in mind that Yeltsin basically staged a coup.
Brayden Thompson
Gorbachov is an idiot, but his heart is in the right place.
Benjamin Parker
Yeltsin definetly made things even worse, but outside of that he probably was (and is) more socdem than dengist
John Perez
Gorbachev had his heart in the right place, he was just an idealist and a weak leader. Unlike Y*ltsin and his clique who were consciously acting to dismantle the USSR and enrich themselves, Gorby legitimately thought he was doing right by socialism with his reforms. I am not defending his actions but it isn't surprising he'd be saying things like that.
Wyatt Johnson
What about franklin rossevelt.
If it wasn't for him the whole world would have become communist.
Nicholas Sanders
Honestly Brezhnev deserves more blame than Gorby for the fall of the USSR: Gorby was merely ruling over ruins while Brezhnev was the one who let the nation decay that far.
Although his foreign policy was top-tier retarded: encouraging Vietnam to pull-out of Cambodia, and ending support to Afghanistan were pretty fucking stupid.
Jose Moore
This. For all his faults Kruschev left behind a country that was experiencing good growth and steady increases in standards of living, and Brezhnev took that and left behind a stagnant economy, bloated bureaucracy, calcified political system, corruption, and an unwinnable quagmire in Afghanistan. He also killed the Soviet cybernetics program.
Easton Richardson
Yeah, Gorbach was simply a sign of the USSR's decay when no one could counter his naive liberalism with some hard-hitting marxist analysis and the populace at large did not particularly care either
Dylan Smith
I'm glad Zig Forums has wisened up on the USSR's leaders and sees how Brezhnev and Yeltsin are way worse than Khrushchev and Gorbachev (who are usually picked as a scapegoat)