What was the darkest or most unpleasant communist movement of the 20th century? Obvious answers are Pol Pot, North Korea, and Eurocommunism, so don't say those.
I vote Ceausescu – basically a Romanian Ba'athist who turned a genuine socialist republic into his own trad-nationalist fiefdom. In addition to stirring up Anti-Semitism and Antiziganism and replacing Marxist analysis with the most embarrassing "Dacian" idpol, his birthrate policies (caused in large part by the emigration of ethnic minorities) flooded the country with orphans who became the burden of the state.
In the end his government cozied up with Israel and the USA, only to get fucked hard by the late 80s. He even gave top government positions to his idiot relatives. This spooked retard makes a dumbass like Hoxha sound like Bordiga.
The asshole had the nerve to sing The Internationale as he was being shot. He should've had his vocal chords ripped out first.
James Thompson
Jones Town but that was more about religion not politics.
Ayden Young
i don't like ceaușescu either but c'mon
Jackson Thomas
Woah I don't support the overthrowing of socialism in Romania, that was just a comment about his character.
Aaron Torres
Kill yourself you stupid faggot, if you aren't Zig Forums in the first place
no
Liam Parker
His worst characteristic was surely the western collaborationism. Whenever anyone cries about the warsaw pact being Soviet puppet states just point to Romania. This retard decided making deals with the IMF to fund his regime and getting buddy-buddy with the US and UK was a great idea and when it came back to bite him in the ass he implemented vicious austerity for years (the IMF actively caused food shortages at this time due to cutting Romania's permitted imports during debt repayment). The austerity was so severe it actually succeed in paying off his Romania's debts but Ceausescu, being the faggot he was decided to keep it around to amass a personal fortune and continuing the massive decline of living standards until the masses had enough and shot him. He is pretty much single-handedly responsible for the collapse of socialism and its negative image in Romania. He might as well have shot himself.
Charles Cox
I say the period leading up to and during the first world war, a great deal akin to our modern predicament. All of the socialist movement capitulated to their respective nationalisms, and the Bolshevik movement was almost completely excised. The entirety of the movement, the second Internationale, simply evaporated and it seemed as if the Marxist idea was tossed to the wind. It's a great story of how much can be done in so little time, says I, that the most powerful expression of Marxism would emerge in Russia of all places, after this horrible period of defeatism and failure.
Adam Baker
What socialism?
Blake Rodriguez
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Caleb Butler
What?
Joshua Peterson
DPRK is so removed from Marxism that it's a really obvious example, even if things there (probably) aren't that bad
Hunter Robinson
Huh I thought his commune was explicitly whites-only but it turns out that was not true at all, nvm
Luke Roberts
Okay but you said "darkest moments of communism" and then brought up Pol Pot and Ceasecsu so what the hell was I supposed to think?
Because people who don't know the history of either region, particularly DPRK, think they're just as bad as Suckceasu or Pol Poop because they killed literally one person
Austin Gray
Pol Pot is like anprim you think is cool until you realize he unironically wants to go back to when people capped off at 50 years old
Nicholas Lee
Just because you believe their state ideology to be silly does not stop it from having a socialist economy
Caleb Young
Why the fuck would you ever need convincing that AnPrim or Pol Pot's literal reverse Leninism aren't cool?
Daily reminder that /ourguy/ said DPRK is still socialist
The most embarassing part is that despite Cucksescu being a retard life was still better in some regards and there's actual nostalgia for socialism cause of how capitalism fucked up eastern europe.
Anthony Richardson
Reminder that this was the HDI of the DPRK in the middle of the Arduous March, its darkest moment since the Korean War.
As an update to my post in that screencap Nepal's two largest communist parties (the MLs and the Maoists) have recently unified and now have a firm majority in government and in all but one provincial governments which is neat although they're still pretty soft and irrelevant because its not like Nepal would be able to achieve much in the way of socialism no matter what tendency or genius theoretician were in charge The list of Nepal's current and former communist parties is still hilarious though. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_communist_parties_in_Nepal
Alexander Bennett
I mean I would still fight alongside maoists if they were the ones to initiate a revolution but I don't really like maoism that much.
Daniel Scott
Kill yourself
Dominic Taylor
Pol Pot isn’t anprim, retard. He is basically an Asian Narodnik
Ian Long
Very redpilled list
Charles Ross
They have truly take the split-pill.
Jace Collins
alot of the victims were black iirc
Isaac Ross
What have they actually been doing policy wise?
Colton Price
Are you retarded?
Benjamin Sanchez
Gorbachev
David Anderson
kathmandupost.ekantipur.com/news/2018-10-17/25-year-vision-to-transform-nation-in-sight.html Well they seem to be taking a developmentalist path and focusing on catching up with industrial nations. Rather than setting targets for socialism, they aim to "transform the country into a developed nation by 2043" focusing on eliminating poverty, building infrastructure etc. The state is meant to have 'a leading role in the private sector' but they also mention coops on the side. A key issue is that of relations between Nepal and India and Nepal and China. The current PM in his last term before the party unification took a pro-chinese stance to reduce Nepal's overwhelming dependence on India, but after party unification he's taking a more balanced approach moving back towards India without reneging on deals with China and trying to juggle both India and China without picking sides so much it seems.
Fundamentally they seem to be doing the only thing Communist parties can really do in the third world, pursue the path of capitalist industrial development that the native comprador bourgeoise cannot due to being compromised by imperialist interests. Its not impressive groundbreaking socialist work but its the correct and necessary thing to do as long as global capitalism prevails.
lmao But seriously, Jonestown is all I can think of.
Noah Rodriguez
what's the problem? this is what you get when workers and peasants run the show when they should in fact be running the factories and shit heaps and nothing else
Noah Rivera
Sounds like a reasonable course of action, although I would hope that they would place a strong emphasis on co-ops rather than just normal businesses. It will also be difficult to walk the line between India and China, since Nepal is a mouse sandwiched between two elephants. I don't doubt that there will be a coup if either side feels the current government is leaning to far towards their rival.
Jonathan Morgan
You're probably thinking of WACO.
Kayden Gutierrez
Please do not try to pretend Pol Pot and Kampuchea and DPRK and Juche are in any way comparable. I disagree with the argument that DPRK no longer has any Marxist sympathies but even if it didn't it at least secured a baseline of decent living conditions for its people and has done its best to forge friendships with socialist nations when not focusing on preserving itself against Western imperialism .
Pol Pot literally wanted to do the opposite of what marx, engels, and lenin scientifically demonstrated was the only way to get to communism (ie going backwards into primitive communism through massive and deliberate disintegration of the means of production, the destruction of both the proletariat and bourgeoise so that the peasants could live in the country without urban sprawl intruding upon their agrarian lives) worked openly and directly with the CIA, murdered thousands of Marxists in their US proxy war with Vietnam and Cambodia, and was generally a massive faggot
Jace Reyes
Kim Il Sung himself advocated the complete opposite of what Pol Pot did.
Killing farmers (including women and children) is revolutionary! Support the people's struggle against the old state! Long live the Marxism-Leninism-Maoism-Gonzalo Thought
You're thinking of something else. Jones Town was the name of the cult location of Jim Jones. It mostly focused on treating blacks and whites the same and had heavy Christian focus but with the cult twist and also supposedly had some Communist ideals as well but these were only within the cult and they never intended to spread these views.
Aiden Turner
Ceaușescu and his wife, Elena, fled the capital in a helicopter, but were captured by the armed forces after the armed forces changed sides. On 25 December, after being tried and convicted of economic sabotage and genocide,[6] they were immediately executed by firing squad,
holy shit
Christian Richardson
who was the retard that killed people with glasses because they "looked intellectual"?
William Adams
DENGOIDISM-PRACHANDAISM
Christian Young
Pol pot, already mentioned in the thread.
Hudson Baker
pretty sure that's just a myth we shouldn't defend pol pot but peddling the whole "muh glasses" meme and ignoring the U.S. bombing cambodia is silly it's like china, they suck ass but there are genuine sinophobic lies being spread around which we should reject.
