Why did every implementation of communist economics eventually end up as state capitalism?
Why did every implementation of communist economics eventually end up as state capitalism?
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Read Lenin, it was the intended result.
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They didnt
Read Stirner
Despite what some people claim here capitalism does have some advantages.
1.Individual capitalists can have their ideas funded and then mass produced. This allows for more innovation.
2.The incentive problem is solved since workers can be threatened to get fired from private firms.
3.You can access foreign markets that are not within the socialist states.
4.It allows for more decentralized management of the economy.
Those are all the advantages I can think of.
Wow I thought you marxists were supposed to be the smart ones, you guys are fucking pathetic.
Because the technology wasn't there to realize what Marx described in Critique of the Gotha Programme, and wouldn't be until today, but the failures and dissolution of the state capitalist regimes have put the left back to where it was pre 1917. The best thing to hope for is a cybersocialist revolution to ameliorate just how bad the ecological collapse is going to get. Communism is dead, long live communism.
How many ancap states are there?
True capitalism has never been tried
Fine ill bite
Most Marxist states didnt "deteriorate" back to capitalism most of them were overthrown in Coup's If not Literal Civil wars instigated by capitalist powers
and your assumption that "all" of them have suffered this fate is false as exceptions like DPR-Korea and Cuba exist till this day
Nice Bait
On the offchance your legit
Then how come LeftComs cant claim the same about socialism?
Also read stirner
Also AnCaps admit that copyrights are spooks but ignore that copyrights are just private property rights applied to ideas
Intellectual property is a le stirnerspook, any ancap will agree
Cuba has been slipping into a Chinese state capitalism model for the last decade and I don’t think DPRK is a great example of marxist economics being successfully
Ofcourse Cuba no longer has the support of the soviet union.
Back when the soviet union was in power they bought things such as sugar from them at a premium.
Cuba's ability to take the Titopill and survive without the Soviet Union has been pretty impressive, there's a lot we could learn about geopolitics from the Cuba-Venezuela-Bolivia-Nicaragua axis of resistance
So you admit private property is a spook and can and will be ignored by the people once Anarchism is reached?
Intellectual property =/= private property
They are literally both codified by the state using the same lines of capitalist logic
State codification is irrelevant, enforcing intellectual property laws without the state is impossible, same can not be said for actual
private property
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big leap in the plot there
you can do better
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I don't get why anyone would be an anarcho capitalist.
Why not skip the messy part and be a libertarian (of the american kind)
Read Adam Smith you brainlet.
Either way the state always reappears in an ancap economy because the largest companies will always have an interest in having a state to enforce laws favorable to them or influencing local politics to control information and interest.
DPRK doesn't have much arable land and has poopy weather & climate
whataboutism
In order to build infrastructure, none of the "actually existing socialist" states matched the productive power Marx deemed instrumental in achieving the communist state. DiaMat 101
Because it wasn't time for communism yet. Capitalism had yet to collapse from its internal contradictions. An attempt to do anything before it is time is just opportunist.
The actions that would be taken to ensure the safety of the capital's property would necessarily constitute a state
capitalist's*
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