War game scenario

Let's say the us got JUSTED and balkanized.
How do you think it would play out?
I think California would turn full communist and maybe Nevada and New Mexico.
Do you think the states would get along or would there be a civil war?

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Civil War in America will not turn into a bunch of states that are ruled cleanly like that. It'll be an urban vs military/rural fight for the most part, essentially the same scenario that Russia was under.

That will never happen because USA would lose global hegemony. There's more chances of America trying to fight the entire world before giving up power.

Most Americans don’t benefit from empire. In fact, most aren’t even aware that the empire exists.

Ok let's say the dollar collapsed and became worthless overnight and Russia did an emp attack on washington DC and everyone panicked and its happening, etc…

Then we would have nuclear war as the only way of generating large scale EMP is with nuclear weapons. Someone should post the nuclear exchange map with the 100/500/1000 warhead exchange targets.

Only in my dreams

If anything it'll look like Syria, but instead of Sunni militias we'll have Mormon and Evangelical militias doing beheading videos and generally making everyone miserable on behalf of whatever imperialist power has now replaced the US.

You and I both.


True union through decentralization and balkanization

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There's no way to know what this would look like. If you want speculation you'll have to at least give us some more parameters.
Fuck off, it's a liberal wasteland

The civil war only happened because of slavery. Amerifats won't be splitting up any time soon.
Pic unrelated.

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I think that pic is very much related

You know people would radicalize in a doomsday scenario.
Even nowadays places like seattle elected someone from the socialist alternative party as their city council member.
And the democrat party has close ties with the communist party usa.
I'd say the blue states would turn communist, but they'd be heavily outnumbered.

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This is a /v/ tier understanding of Politics

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Not really.
Imagine if there were power outages, people needed a cartload of dollars to buy a loaf of bread and majority of people were unemployed and homeless.
Its a hypothetical scenario.

I honestly fantasize about that constantly. Imagine an America at war with itself and therefore unable to maintain its global empire or promote global reaction. It would be heavenly.

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Whoever China decides to Patronize would win

I like how absolutely nothing there is you know about how any of this would play out.

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Checked for nuke China asap

There's no reason a civil war would happen under these circumstances. Democrats are anti-communist liberals, and republicans are anti-communist liberals. These people share the same interests and have no reason to fight a civil war.

I could see leftist paramilitaries holding ground in the Midwest and some parts of the Eastern Seaboard along with places like Washington and Dekota if they play their cards right. The liberals and conservatives probably would band together but if not the liberals would be holding the Bourgeois Financial cities and the Republican the Landlords and Countryside maybe some southern cities. I don't know much about the Evangelical groups so I imagine they would be more or less like roaming bandits that hold certain towns. Atomwaffen and the current aut right movement would be less prevalent but I can Imagine a KKK 1920's style south that is probably going to call themselves the CSA but I'm sure many of the black population won't like that down there so they will have their hands tied with whatever black identity based group that tries to form down there. Whatever the political party of the official government was before the dissolution would try and to unite the libs and cons against the reds and lock down D.C NY and LA and make it into a fortress pulling in the military from across the planet. I could see the homeless in southern California forming a leftist organization against the liberals in the cities. They would most likely be driven into the sewers and the Drug Cartels would be operating more or less above ground with the liberals. Mexico, Germany, Sweden would probably be supporting the liberals and Canada would want nothing to do with us like usual. We could get support from Cuba, China, and Venuzala. France, UK, Italy, Saudi Arabia and Poland would probably be supporting the Republicans. Whether the Republicans and the liberals would join is probably pretty likely and we would need more support from the working class in this county so this could turn out like The Russian civil war. I could see Weird stuff like Ukraine, Iran, UAE, even parts of Poland supporting neo-CSA and the Christian fundamentalists like the US did with ISIS. The cities would be filled with heavily armored troops and the same tactics would be used in Afghanistan with the drone strikes and heavy civilian casualties. I can see that disruption of the fuel supply lines would halt the tanks to just be used in the Cities since they are such gas guzzlers. The F-35 would be destroyed in raids on the airfields or crashing on emergency takeoffs due to the poor mechanics and low maintainability. This war could last up to three decades I reckoned.

Why different?


But they have capitalism now.

We had capitalism back then, too.

It didn't outlive it's usefulness yet.

Haven't you seen the streets with antifa fighting against nationalists?
That may be a harbinger of things to come.
The reason why the first civil war was fought was in part slavery but it also was a fight between the confederacy vs the the union.
You know two ideologies.
The saga continues.

I could see the military also holding some ground , outpouts out in the west/rockies. It's not a big population out there and they do need to hold the nuclear sites out there from the roving bandits and reds. I could see that they would hold air dominance in the west for a little while before the oil reserves dry up from getting cut off and the increased use of it from driving all the military vehicles and planes across a 3000 mile stretch of land. Saudi Arabia and Nigeria might give the former government oil in this crisis situation and the government might pre emptivly invade venuzalia and Canada in order to get the oil. They would be pressuring Panama to give free pass to all ships going through the canal. The other groups in America would be using all the resources at their deposal to weaponise, turning civie plans into barrel bombers and gunships. Hospitals would be used for military purposes for the csa, black identity groups, reds and Christian fundamentalists.

I speculate that Blackwater would side with any political group with the highest bitter. The large car culture in the states would probably cause mass migration of civilians (aka rapefugees in form of cumskins xd lol) over to Canada or Mexico. The reds would probably need to win at least in Canada and Mexico too if they are to win in the US because the former government would be using that as a safe ground to launch any further attacks on the Soviets. Brazil would probably be the biggest reactionary on that part of the planet once the civil war is over.
Okay, enough ranting for now. What do you think could go down?

Who says the libs would fight at all.
The dems aren't really a party, just a group of people who don't want the reps in power.
They don't have militias like the reps do (unless you count a guy like Daou, a fucking one man army if you ask me).

In all seriousness it would be gov't (both dems and reps) which would resemble Goldwater's jacking off fantasy (basically fighting to preserve a de-hypernormalised US hegemony) vs. the Reds vs. Christcucks of all types (they would obviously also beat the shit out of each other, Baptists vs Caths, etc.) vs. Libertarian fatass boomer survivalists who would die the moment the war was announced from a heart attack.

Also the "actually-existing" (opposed to the aforementioned lib'tarian boomers) aut right is a bunch of fat nerds with only online presence.

That implies that the followers are rational actors, the kulaks and bourgeoisie can be made to think that the people who are in fact their natural allies are in fact their enemies and the will then fight and weaken each other which will enable revolution to succeed with minimal effort.