THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SOCIAL CREDIT SCORE THAT LINKS DISPARATE SOCIAL BEHAVIORS TOGETHER AND METES PUNISHMENT OR RANKS YOU AS AN OBEDIENT CITIZEN IN CHINA
For the love of God. It is not an episode of black mirror. Whatever you are imaging social credit is, it is not that.
It has nothing to to with Sesame credit. Sesame credit is a frequent shopper rewards program for Alibaba. It is not even tenuously connected to social credit, which itself is not a score.
Please, for the love of God. Before you start posting about social credit, read this link. It takes 5 minutes, it's worth it.
REALLY makes me think It's clear that it's not as bad as the liberal sinophobes claim (who immediately have to resort to "muh black mirror" or "muh 1984" cause they don't understand politics) but you have to be blind to not realize that even this "moderate" social credit will no doubt be expanded in the future. Surveillance in the western world is taking the same trend and we also have our fair share of "muh terrorists tho" and "nothing to hide" retards who would like to see all of their rights shredded and burned but will weep crocodile tears when Chinese merely share the same fate as us. Don't kid yourself, there is still nothing redeemable whatsoever about this. And the funniest part is that some dengoids (the ones who actually know a thing or two, like you, say it's exaggerated) actually defend the caricature version of social credit as a good thing since China is supposedly still socialist.
Matthew Lee
I know but its still a genuinely retarded system since it allows the Fascist government of China (Inb4 Dengists) to basically just reward good proles and disparage dissident ones
Gavin Bennett
The untrustworthy conduct they are punishing are literally things like fraud, failing inspections, failing to pay court fines, have a court judgement against you through one of the various legal channels that exist in China being organized and transparent to avoid repeated abuses.
Nathaniel Sanchez
You don't know what it is! Read the damn article! It is not a score! It's a system for increasing government transparency and rule by law
If you actually think corrupt carrerists and the ultra rich of China will ever actually face punishment under this system and will not just bribe their way out and this wont basically just solely effect proles then your fucking deluded
Benjamin Sanders
See they're getting there.
Logan Campbell
There is nothing in it about rewarding people or punishing dissidents. It does not collect a record of things you have said or works you have published to put a limit on speech. It is specific industry laws with specific industry punishments. Breaking a law in one industry does not impact your dealings in another industry.
It is NOT a more "moderate" version of the black mirror universe. It is a totally unlike thing.
Stop trying to distort the law to fit your imaginary version of it. Accept what it is for real.
Eli Robinson
Healthcare is Socialist Made by Dengoid Gang
Austin Hughes
You don't know what it is! Read the damn article! It is not state surveillance! It's a system for combatting terrorism!
It's a reform to increase transparency and rule of law in China.
Colton Flores
Read the article.
Carter Hughes
I never said that I just pointed out that if you think this would ever actually help fight corruption and would impact careerists and bougies you are lying to yourself as it could simply be bribed its way out of like everything else I never claimed this though?
Yeah and the American Goverment has a Transparency committee Does that make America Transparent?
Xavier Rodriguez
It is not a credit score- straight up. It is not a moderted version of what you think it is. What you think it is is a fabricated version that ties in Sesame credit, Alibaba's system for giving consumer discounts, to a system for giving industry-specific punishments for industry specific violations, especially those that put the public at risk.
Christian Robinson
Well they're entitled to education, they'll be entitled to healthcare and eventually they'll be entitled to more things and so on…
Caleb Gonzalez
Neither of those things are inherently Socialist And China will remain Capitalist until it abolishes the exploitation of Man over Man
Jaxon Watson
Well China needed to industrialize one way or the other. I'd say they've done a good job. They also eradicated poverty. Now its the second biggest economy. Who knows what their end game is.
Justin Miller
HUGE victory for Actually Existing Socialism.
Jaxon Parker
Wow, here I was thinking it's a totalitarian social credit score, but it's merely a bonus program for a multibillion private corporation! This is huge for really existing Chinese socialism if true.
Yeah, you thought it was something, but it's actually nothing. Guess you'll change the subject to shouting about how its capitalist like the rest of the planet and pretending like this is some kind of praxis.
Juan Smith
The USA's Transparency committee is actually existing socialism and proves it is in fact a dictatorship of the proletariat.
Jaxon Edwards
I've noticed that people with your flag tend to be morons.
Jacob Green
Defending China's capitalist government on the internet is doubtlessly superior praxis.
Not to mention that claims of "transparency" and "anti-corruption" are often justifications for removing political rivals. Something similar to social credit may be useful in a society that has reached an advanced stage of socialism but in the hands of porkies it will inevitably be used for evil.
Chase Williams
It is not useful in any society that respects civil liberty. Rating organizations for reputation, but rating people is dehumanizing.
Dominic Taylor
Xi's 50 cent army isn't doing a very good job of imitating burger SJWs.
Leo Jenkins
Explain what you think social credit is, in your own words.
Samuel Garcia
That's that what those guys do. They just post Having a great time! over and over again on the major chinese webportals during the holidays.
Hudson Jenkins
SOCIAL CREDIT DOES NOT RATE PEOPLE
It is not a rating. There is no number. That is not what it does.
Caleb Cruz
Counterpoint: It will work, and has before.
Luke Bell
A surveillance system for gathering and processing information on people’s professional conduct designed to incentivize what is seen as acceptable behaviour and punish deviation from it. It also does have ratings, just not a single number for each person.
