Why leftypol should be libertarian

Libertarian have a few things that might be of use to the left
1.They're anti imperialist would withdraw the troops
2.they would embolden blue states to become even more extreme to make up for the lack in federal funding
3.accelerationism
4.They would end fractional reserve banking which would defang the banks and give power to the state instead of the fed

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that would imply lolberts have values and beliefs. Their whole ideology boils down to "muh MUH SMOL GUBMEND WAAAAH", they don't stand for or against anything.

1. They're not anti-imperialist, they just use the rhetoric. In reality they support military action, fascism and corporate domination of other nation's resources.
2-3. Accelerationism is idealism and doesn't work.
4. Private banking is even worse than the fed.

but see under full reserve banking the banks would lose a lot of their power.
They would have to have 100% of the deposits they loan out instead of 10% like they do now.
Also they call for nationalizing the fed.

Don't forget to sage this thread, because OP is indeed a massive faggot.
1. Anti-imperialism is not enough, for a national-bourgeois movement like Volkism can be anti-imperialist. Really, are you expecting existing Libertarian partisans and right-libertarians beyond that to support the proletarian struggle? Come on, are you unfamiliar with the filthy ideology which their favourite ideologues such as Hayek, von Mises and often Popper have been spouting? You actually think they won't be among the first to call for and set in motion the destruction of the Communist movement in the name of 'liberty'?
2. Emboldening those states is also not enough. We need Communist ideologists and propaganda as well as means of organisation. A right-libertarian mode of governance would be the very thing which
3. 'accelerationism'? Yet this can easily play into the hands of reactionaries who proclaim the death of liberal capitalism after its decay and seize on the chance to attempt to fling us back into the 19th century and in fact end up with a spectre-ridden neo-feudalism which caters to the whims of Silicon Valley technocrats and the like. What the hell do you think they're gonna do with all that big data and technology? You are stupid if you think that somehow the proletarians are just going to rise up in support of the Communist programme because 'they is moar oppressed now'. Yes, they will rise up in support of something, but that doesn't mean that it will be Communism and not yet another opium which pretends to cater to the root causes of their problems. Are you unfamiliar with the propaganda of radically-reactionary movements? I've already mentioned Volkism once, you should be able to take the hint.
4. 'Power to the state'. Are you nuts? You're saying that we should give liberal-democratic legitimacy to people who want the welfare-focussed and democratic aspects of the state to be curbed. Power will instead be ceded to large corporations, which means that it will become much harder for a proletarian movement to capture the state and even weaponise the military when private militias will be acting in full force or perhaps overdrive if somehow the bourgeoisie become desperate. And just where will the banking power go if the Federal Reserve is abolished, anyway? It won't disappear; it will simply go further into the hands of the national bourgeoisie.

agree to disagree

Well I'm assuming that libertarians would do what they say.
Which is the napoleonic pact.
If people want to unionize and other countries want to convert to whatever form of government under the nap the libertarians should be hands off.

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inb4 ban

yeah, even they don't think that's serious.

But what do you think they are going to be fighting for? In whose corner? Again - I tackled this with the first point in my rebuttal - right-libertarians side with capital, meaning that they side with a particular sect of the ideologues of capital. They will weaponise any machines of power they have in defence of 'liberty'; frankly, Communism is indeed a threat to bourgeois liberty given it recognises that it is a flawed and limited liberty.

this is from the green party platform

And as soon as I sage this thread some mug goes and bumps it. We had better salvage something out of this.

Wow okay never mind then

ron paul and his son consistently voted against military action

if it's not left libertarian then I don't want to hear about it. lolberts will get the wall with other rightists.

But what is a leppo?
There is more chance of a full on socialist revolution than 'were not ancap really guys' gaining power.

The only point u make that makes sense is accelerationism and that's only if lolberts weren't actually just as "totalitarian" as everyone they criticize but only for capital

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Daily reminder that black flag, agorism and egoism are the only true libertarian positions.

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Every single """Libertarian""" I've known are now die-hard Trump supporters. Pretty sure one of them is becoming a full blown nationalist.