When and why have westeners lost the will to suevive?

Every social movement that westeners embrace is masochistic renounce of the most basic instincts
At this point i wish i could give you a peacefull dead because is pathetic seeing you in this state

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Its a cult of dead
Antinatalism
Anti your ancestors history
Anti your culture and tradition
Anti family
And against the root itself the white race
Everything is posoned to the root
How you pretend to survive ehen you are embracing you own destruction to the point of spiting even of your own ancestors?

Since karltural marxism started promoting anuddah shoah

Wew lad.

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Socialism is literally the only way the West or humanity in general can hope to survive.

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John Derbyshire wonders why Europeans are so susceptible to guilt. One explanation is that all cultures have a foundation myth that tells them who they are, and the foundation myth of modern Europeans is a negative one.

How do you recognise a foundation myth? It fulfils three functions.

1)It explains the origin and structure of the world (and society).
2)It defines ultimate good and evil (and from those definitions are derived the values that are used to justify the holding of power).
3)It determines what is held sacred in that society.

For modern Westerners the story of WWII has become their foundation myth. It fulfils all three functions.

1)We live in the ‘Post-War World’. The lines on the map, the institutions, the sense of what era we live in, all arise from the starting point of WWII.

2)Ultimate evil is Nazis. Ultimate good is opposing Nazis. The values derived from these definitions are anti-racism, equality, diversity, anti-nationalism and so on.

3)The only thing that is held sacred, that cannot be denied or mocked in the contemporary West, is the Holocaust.

The problem is that all three functions are backwards or negative.

Instead of the origin event being one of fertility and new life, it was a conflagration of death and destruction.

Instead of ultimate good taking the central position in the story that slot is occupied by ultimate evil. Everyone knows that Adolf Hitler, the personification of evil, holds the centre point of the WWII story.

Instead of that which is held sacred being something mysterious and sublime it (the Holocaust) is an obscenity.

Having a negative foundation myth means the tree of life for Westerners is poisoned. People don’t realise it but the bounds of allowable thought and the orientation of ideas are all downstream from the myth of the society. As long as our understanding of who we are is determined by this negative foundation myth the only direction is down.

anti-natalists and other such so-called leftists are nihilist liberals in denial, and to be ignored

The power of mythology (in modren globocorporate terms, of ad branding) is no trivial thing. Lose your founding myth, and you lose your identity. What has happened to White Westerners is worse: we have not just lost our identity but have been shackled to a new identity, a corrosive and malignant identity that threatens to subsume us in self-annihilationism. We have our new founding mythology, and it requires endless sacrifice with no hope of glory.
And, unlike Europe, holocaustianity isn’t America’s first or foremost negative foundational neomyth. That honor goes to slavery and the Civil War, the origin and structure of the negative myth. The South, the ultimate evil. Lincoln, the sacred figure. It all coalesces into a new civic religion to give de-Christianized SWPL libshit Whites the opportunity to feel the divine pull of a higher calling.

So Heritage America is getting socked with two negative foundational myths while at the same time dispossession and redaction of the real, positive American mythic figures continues apace.

It would be tragic if it weren’t demonic.

This is why ZFG shitlords, dindu nuffin memesters, and JIDF-spotting trolls are doing the White God’s work. By crushing through mockery the negative founding myths and its sacrosanct centerpieces holocaustianity and racial guilt, White Westerners can begin to reclaim their glorious heritage and the Truth and Beauty it embodies.

clean your room

What do you mean? Westerners live in golden cages. They have no issue with survival because the rest of the world sustains their lavish lifestyle.

"Socialists" in 1st world countries have virtually no reason to fight for the working class because even 1st world blue collars enjoy massive privileges compared to the rest of global proletariat. Who can they fight for? Economic immigrants? The new shudra caste designed to do underpaid, menial jobs no self-entitled native person would ever think of doing? Sweatshop workers in Bangladesh and Vietnam making cheap clothes and Apple phones?

Westerners don't want changes, they want comfort at any price, even if it means fucking up the rest of the world.

How many westerners will need to be killed in order to liberate the global proletariat?

But is the left all across europe that is protecting you against the evil righ winger, giving you the same right as we have and destroying our countries and the local workimg class in the process
There is not a more internationalist left that european one , even our capitalist class have transfered all the industry to china the real revulsive of letting hundred of millions out of poverty

i'm still clinging to the hope that China is planning to crash the west with no survivors, before going full gommie

And you will have what you wish
the destruction of all the 3rd wordism delusions with china and all their vultures prepared to take a peace of the west destroyed

There is no left in the west. Every political group's goal is primarily to protect the interests of the capital at any cost, and to keep to consumption flowing. Everything else is irrelevant, the colors are just there to keep the retards preoccupied, to give them an illusion that there are real issues in the West other than consumption and production.

"Boohoo, i saw a brown person in the street! How could this happen to me?" Maybe if the system that sustains you with cheap gas and big macs didn't turn 2/3 of the world into an unlivable hellhole for an illusion of prosperity you wouldn't be seeing any. But of course mere economy isn't enough, let's fuck up the entire climate with our unsustainable lifestyle so the rest of the world becomes desert in 40 years and more evil brown people flock to our clean and serene neighborhoods.

Certainly exist a corvin stile real one much more real that you could encounter in any non western nation and who place ungrateful pigs like you before any native westener

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Doesn't matter, China already fell with Deng in the 80s. The last remnants of human civilization died in 1989, there is no point in attempting to save anything now. Chinese elites will share the fate of their western counterparts when everything goes to shit, and even moreso for betraying their own people.

I don't understand what you're trying to say.

ITT: pessimist circlejerk

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What do you think? We live in times of bourgeois madness and a search for big Others, do we not? Others after Others keep rolling in and out with the times - is this not most apparent in aesthetic trends and whatnot? We have become so desperate that we're clinging onto nostalgia, barely trying to make new things out of it. There are multitudes of themes which can never be explored through a bourgeois worldview and it has long hit the buffers: the intense science fiction of even cyberpunk novels let alone the revolution-inspired works of literary titans like Asimov. Instead of ruthless and ever-more expansive progression, we're faced with stagnation and a denial that there is much more to do - if not in a quantitative sense then a qualitative one (i.e. 'we can keep growing in numbers, but we'll never develop new systems of logic, nuclear fusion generators and so on…')
The key point is that we feel as if we've reached the end of history because we take many of the developments of the world as not just being givens but unknowable ones. It is not that we need the 'positive myth' that our random reactionary friends have 'enlightened' us about, that is not the Other we need at all. We need to SEIZE that Other and become conscious of it as much as we can. We will always be faced with treadmills of some sort, but the treadmills won't be the same if we bother to build new ones.

None. As the level of development of the productive forces & infrastructure in developing regions reaches parity with the west, the rate of profit will plummet. For profit requires disparity. With no regions left to be exploited capitalism enters a terminal crisis.
We're already seeing this problem in the west. But before it really kicks into gear the last remaining regions need to be elevated to a western standard of development. Think Africa, South-East Asia, rural India & China, and various Latin American countries.
Meanwhile socialism isn't dead, as even workers in the first world periodically mobilize for their class interests.

John Derbyshire is just a typical petty bourgeois reactionary. He may not be a total brainlet like most of the right, but his politics fail to transcend his class

China adapted to circumstances of the time. They simply didn't have the means to embrace autarchy.

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Real funny that the Cuckposter is now a Dengoid, he really has nowhere to go.

For him now, capitalism is socialism.

Oh for fucks sake, not this shit again. Stop projecting, nonsense that some white people post on Facebook don't represent all of white people. Having said that crapitalism causes alienation and depression.

No. But without economic and technological development the trappings of capitalism (commodity production, wage labor, markets, etc.) cannot be overcome. The Soviet Union proved this. North Korea has proven this. Even Democratic Kampuchea showed this.
This doesn't mean that as a worker you should stop fighting for your own interests. Just that it's important to recognize that emancipation from capitalism is intimately tied to material development under capitalism.

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The planet simply won't sustain the rest of the world reaching western standards of life. America alone wastes resources like there's no tomorrow.

They are certainly when nothing more than self destruction can aryse from them
Antinatalism is negation of every vitalist insctic of a person and has become commonplace of a important part white middle class westeners
deeply triggering and problematic people history always with the lense of non white as the victim and the whites as the opresors
The traditional family is not one of explotation but of colaboration and complement each other to make the family as a unit stronger , every one fulfill a role of the same importance

Anti-natalism is not a thing. Twitter idiots sterilizing themselves are either very fringe or right-wing falseflaggers. The vast majority of young people want family and children, they just CAN'T because capitalism is making it prohibitively expensive. The same system that you so selflessly defend by making up moronic reasons to oppose the left.

While anti-natalism is not that bad both this and natalism suck


Tbh historically the whites were the oppressors more often than others
Spookyyyyy

…you frankly don't know what a communal family is, do you?

If the future is as bad as predicted, capitalism will die another way. In that case, the same circumstances that gave birth to the Russian Revolution (war, famine & economic collapse) will arise again.

Your problem is equating the survival of "whites" with whiteness.
In reality, I'm not going to die if racism and exploitation were abolished. In fact, I stand to gain from it.
Furthermore, natalism and antinatalism are irrelevant in face of the invention of artificial wombs, genetic testing, and bioengineering. Even if every woman on the planet stopped giving birth ever again, we could - within a matter of years - be able to produce new children through artificial means.

And while traditional families aren't exploitative per se, they exist predominantly because capitalism is exploitative and these "traditional" structures provide economic benefits that allow couples (and their children) to thrive (or rather - survive) under capitalism. That is also why in less developed countries and communities - still operating under subsistence farming or minimal non-local economic interaction - the "nuclear family" barely exists. With children instead being raised together by the extended family, and men (and sometimes women) having multiple spouses.
Either way, even if we assert that nuclear families are necessary today, that doesn't mean they'd have to be in the future. For under communism the rational economic basis for it disappears.

There is zero narrative trying to puss jewish guilt for what they are doing to palestians , esterilizing african woman or putt dna text as a requeriment to be a citizen of israel and is hapening NOW
But of course they nevel guilt trim any of them even when never were the victims to begin with

There is, especially outside America. Even in America there are public figures that speak out against Israel (Chomsky, politicians like Tulsi Gabbard, organizations like the Democrat Cops of America, etc.)
Same goes for discrimination against Africans, the occupation of Palestine and the Golan Heights, the Gaza blockade, etc.
And let's not forget that it was Marx that advocated the abolition of judaism. It was Lenin that closed the synagogues. And it was Stalin that had zionists executed.

The left has opposed Israel for decades. Being anti-zionist has been the litmus test for leftists for a long time, even very moderate ones. Most vocal support for Israel comes from right-wing conservatives. It fucking baffles me how you Zig Forumsyps managed to mindfuck yourselves into thinking that leftists like Israel.

Degrading them 24 h/ d certainly doent help
Saying you are to blame for all the illness of the world it doent either
Sustituting you with millions of inmigrant against your will is not a funny thing either
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So all this hiper " socialized " middle clasd whites end up internalizing the bad future that is awaitimg us proclaiming unironically antinatalist ideologies
They are hipersocialized cowards nothing more

We are speaking of the press and is clear who the enemy is for them the white race as a whole while the poor jews are always the victims no matter what
Sorry i didnt want to go there good bye

Many. I'm genuinely starting to think that third world marxism is the only way. I have been a worker in a developed nation for the better part of a decade and, whilst my exploitation sucks and is 100% real my consumerism, and the consumerism of every worker I know is based entirely on the exploitation of developing world workers. I'm willing for that quality of life to drop if it means the emancipation of workers in the developing world and I believe it is every Marxists duty to do so; I benefit deeply from the underpriced labour of the developing world. In order to develop socialism my quality of life undoubtedly needs to drop in order for all my comrades to develop socialism. Thus, us workers living in a developed nation must be willing to sacrifice many material comforts to allow our developing world comrades the possibility to control the means of production.

They are dead inside

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And you are blaming us for what the media says?

And how are us Communists going to seize on the chance to take power when the hand-rubbing Digitari and other ultra-reactionary factions of the bourgeoisie are going to be mobilising heavily? Despite shrinking welfare states and even lacking police resources in countries like the UK, surveillance is skyrocketing and private police will become the new norm if it isn't already. Think about it very carefully. Capitalism (as we know it) will die, but what will replace it? Communists must be armed to the teeth if revolution is to get off the ground and even the vast Naxalite struggles will not be safe in the slightest against bioweapons and nuclear warfare. The kind of organisation we need is going to be unprecedented, just as it was for the Bolsheviks. To even get anywhere near that, we need solid theory which doesn't recurve into mysticism - all the more tempting given the desperation of everyone besides those who will be leading the damned to their deaths more than anyone else.

My foundation myth isn't WWII. It's the industrial revolution.
(1.) We live in the 'Industrialized World' (Anthropocene). The institutions are those that uphold industrial infrastructure and apply it to further human flourishing.
(2.) The ultimate evil is those who oppose or trivialize the conscious self-determination of the human race. (Nazis, among others)
(3.) Held sacred is the human being and his creative intelligence.

The discovery of organised agriculture was the final deathknell of human civilisation. The Cultural Marxists of ancient Mesopotamia denied human nature and organic life in the form of hunter-gatherering. All of our fun stem from that communist social project of removing humanity from its roots and heritage.