My brain is kind of failing to wrap around this...

My brain is kind of failing to wrap around this. In Red Dead Redemption you can punch Female Suffragists and get a whole lot of views on youtube. However it seems as if the next generation of children are turning out to be more and more left wing despite the fact that the majority of media out there leans pretty hard to the right.
What exactly does this mean? Is propaganda simply not very effective anymore or what? Is capital losing it's grip over the heart of the youth or what?

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They're mostly 2 different groups of people, the first being literal children, i.e 16 and under, sheltered suburbanite burgers.

i dunno man all the people my age, political or not, are either right wing or associate with the right.

Because most young people are not actually on youtube. Even if every single on of pewdiepie's subscribers were a nazi it would be a drop in the bucket. The actual number of internet rightists is far smaller and spread out geographically. They're basically irrelevant to the real world. They're the two twinks holding a kekistan flag at some protest or dressing up as the npc wojak for halloween.

It's that the young wants to rebel against their parents. Parents and boomers in america are Right wing Capitalists and Reganites.
Also is that a actual screenshot from pubic hair YouTube tool?

Yeah. It's part of his dumb meme review series.

One of my nieghtbors is a member of army of god and Marx only knows what my other neighbour is up to (probably also some insane shit)

So youre american?

You mean there are actors representing suffragists in the game, who are subject to the same rules as every other actor in the game, including being able to be punched or run over with a horse
I get that this is about some youtube video OWNING FEMINAZIS or sometihng but you're making yourself look pretty bad with the phrasing

That's the important part of that sentence that you missed, fam.

Did you not even read the second line of my post

Judging from that survey, around a quarter to a third of young voters have right-wing views. That's where all the youtube-viewers and Zig Forumsacks are coming from. All of the left-wing or neutral people actually have lives outside of the internet, or else they're on Tumblr or Instagram or some shit.

I did, I just don't see what's wrong with the phrasing, but if you only quote the first half then it obviously looks like he's talking about the game. If someone can't read a full sentence, that's their problem not OP's.

no I'd say the propaganda is working perfectly.

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stop trying to normalize this dumb personality cult shit. Marx isn't a god.

But he's dead and I wasn't trying to idolize him.

And it would seem weird to reference god twice in one post.

It could just as easily be interpreted as saying the game is supposedly right wing and awful because you can hurt wymyn in it, and so videos demonstrating this evil game that encourages women-beating are beloved by evil sexist gamers.
Because it emphasizes that the video depicts hitting women. The point is that the hitting women in the youtube video is empty bullshit to own le libs, but outside of Zig Forums, retarded culture wars shit is more important, so reddit and Zig Forums alike will see the fact that you can hit a woman in the game and upload the video to youtube as the important point, not what OP was getting at by that.
Thereby inviting retards to join you thinking they're in good company, and retards to come own the sjws on leftypol for the win.

People hate SJWs, but people also hate capitalism. I mean, no amount of propaganda is really going to make people love a system in which 90% of them are unable to find good jobs or even survive without taking on unpayable debts.


i fixed it for thee, comrade!

this would be a fun larp

Zoomers really need to experience a recession honestly.

On the other hand you have the entire film and videogame industry leaning hard to the left, and your conclusion is that majority of media leans hard to the right??? What fucking world are you living in?

Wut?

This. Culture war shit doesnt trump material interests for most people, on the whole.
This is why NEETs are actually more succdem than anything.

He means SJW shit. Not leftism.

I was mostly referring to online media to be specific. My phrasing when I wrote the OP wasn't very good. Also really? The only thing the mainstream media cares about is filling our earholes with dumb idpol and maybe some oneliners about healthcare.

Only if you don't actually read the full sentence. If you're a retard who can't read, that's your problem.
What meme? Young voters who don't spend their time on chinese haiku boards are also often the type of people who think the minimum wage and lgtb rights are good things. It's also true that places like Zig Forums and youtube are largely right-wing. The reason why it appears that right-wing thought is dominant (and even according to that survey it is still pretty strong), is that you're looking in all the places where they are dominant.

the last two Superhero movies I've seen were the tom holland Spider-Man and Black Panther. In the first one the main bad guy was literally a prole disillusioned by millionaires like Tony Stark who was arrested for starting a weapons company (just like Tony's dad). literally "it's okay to be a bourg hypocrite: the film"
Then in Black Panther the main villain is this evil socialist Fred Hampton based archetype who wants to subsidize the poor, but thank god the reactionary religious bureaucratic king gets to save the day using the power of tradition!
fuck off.

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How many god damn times do we have to point out liberalism isn't leftism

Where the fuck do you get this?
Youtube is a gargantuan platform mostly populated by fluff and shilling.
white nationalists, Zig Forumsacks, and just vaugely kind-of-sort-of right-wing-ish-lite normalfags upload their videos to youtube
same with communists, social democrats, social justice wankers, and boring shill dems.
Most of my time in a web browser is spent on youtube and I do not see where you're getting this from.
This has to be that "when I see something I don't like somewhere its representative of that place as a whole, when I see something I dont care about or like there its an intrusion from outside" shit.

Why are you being so defensive? Stop it. Anyone outside of leftypol visiting would see "mysoginistic right wing violence towards women simulator explosively popular on youtube with mysoginistic gamers" as the gist of that sentence, having read it in full. Thereby inviting one group of retards to think they're your comrades and another to come own le libs on leftypol. It makes the board look bad.

next type you can just post this instead of typing that all out. no need to thank me.

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GEN Z IS THE MOST CONSERVATIVE GENERATION EVER

NEW PUNK ROCK

Yes he is. Dialectical materialism is just holy spirit recycled.

Cringe

They're NAZBOL GANG

I know

It's almost like materialism is correct or something.

Identity politics in the West have created a strange antagonism, with white straight men becoming more rightwing and literally everyone else becoming more leftwing. I don't see this trend reversing any time soon, either, since no political group in America seems keen on abandoning identity politics. On the bright side, speaking purely in terms of demographics, this means that the left is ascendant. Unfortunately, they're all absolutely pozzed and have no concept of class conflict, so at best this means there will be a wave of succdem/progressive politics as Gen Z comes of age.

i don't think this poll means all that much considering young people really don't vote

It also means that us straight male lefties get a lot of sex, which is pretty nice.

most rightists:
vid of beating up suffragettes
really makes me think

Alright, I dont like Zig Forums either but you're just being willfully obtuse with that. They people who say that first thing would say the second one in response to the video because it would in theory piss off the third wave feminists they dont like. Like using the word 'nigger' to upset middle class white anti-racists.
Not saying thats actually a particularly high brow form of comedy but its not hypocrisy, its just "SJWS OWNED EPIC STYLE" Bullshit.

It's not contradictory because the "SJW FEMINAZI PWNED EPIC STYLE" nonsense isn't supposed to change people's minds. It's meant to pander to people that already think like the autists who post the videos, whom will seek out said autism proactively to reinforce their own biases.

Calling them right wing is a bit iffy because more often than not, they don't really have any convictions at all. Politics to them is a contest to be the biggest edgelord, something that is pathetically common among Americans of all age groups.

Except there aren't going to be any third wave feminists to piss off in that comments section, so all they're actually doing is pissing in an ocean of piss. Like people who use the word 'nigger' to upset middle class white anti-racists… on a board that 0 middle class white anti-racists actually use.

Yes, we know that western netoyo are dumb fucks. We've known that forever. You have brought absolutely nothing to this discussion or the board as a whole with that empty, shit comment, and Ill be reporting you to the council to have you assigned for reeducation to become a productive and contributing poster.

I might be an old man by leftypol standards (I'm in my thirties) but a lot of this isn't particularly new. I'm old enough to remember when GTA 1 was popular in my middle school and kids made jokes about running over gay people in the game. I don't know if gay people were actually in the game, but the kids seemed to believe it and joked about it. So this would've been in the mid-late 1990s.

Didn't stop progress. Also if you were in the U.S. in 2004 you would have heard the right banging the drum really hard about gay marriage, and that gay marriage was a big threat to America and so on. Now, there is very little if any talk about gay people. It's all moved on to trans people. If anything "the kids today" seem a lot more radical than they were when I was their age, and I'm only in my early 30s.

There are the alt-right kids of course, but I had a friend growing up who became a neo-Nazi skinhead. Here's a picture of him! That's actually him. I check up on him occasionally because I always had him pinged in "friend most likely to wind up dead / in prison / etc." but he's still out there. He was always very nice to me and was a cross-dressing goth kid at the time. Funny how things work out, yeah?

Anyways, outside of a minority of middle-class youth in regions that vote, I don't believe far-right politics are popular if you look at society as a whole. Quite the contrary.

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If this is what American political discourse has devolved into, just nuke this entire generation and be done with it.

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Oh I forgot to reply to the main question:

I think the left is getting smarter and are not settling for traditional centrist-liberal politics as much.

You totally missed my point.

I'm saying that the people who are loling at SJW FEMINAZI PWNED EPIC STYLE garbage are not doing it ironically. Their humor is pretty straight forward. They aren't trying to piss off third wave feminists or middle class anti-racists. They legitimately think that videos of beating up suffragettes are funny, and if anything they are only jockying to impress each other with their KEK SO EDGY XDD humor You're giving them the benefit of the doubt when you really shouldn't.

what a way to go, fuck.

Its only "edgy" because it would theoretically piss off some feminist or whatever that watched it.
"owning the libs" humor generalizes beyond circumstances where there are actually libs to be owned. Its funny because its supposedly horrible and evil and literally violence in the eyes of the SJWs/libs/whatever, so think those laughing at it, and said SJWs/libs/whatever. And are also, so think those whod find that funny, powerful in some way, how depending on how far right the viewer is. But it is, in fact, harmless. And in that dissonance is the comedy.
I know this because I remember being 15 and not realizing leftism was seperable from tumblrshit.
From that perspective, owning le libs is funny even if there are not in fact any libs to be owned, because of the idea that whatever meaningless bullshit you were spewing would if there were.
Obviously this isnt applicable to Zig Forumsacks or stormfags, but given that we're talking about zoomers in general, most of the people we're concerned with aren't either of those things.
Im not sure what the fuck you're even trying to say. They're actually eebil natsees deep down, but not admitting it? They are in fact all stormfags? They're so deeply autistic that there is no explanation for what they laugh at? Are you just doing what this board always does, and getting confrontational over fucking nothing whenever you're faced with the fact that the general population equates leftism with tumblrshit?

Are you sure you're not just projecting your own experiences onto others?

Not everyone is laughing at this to "own the libs". Some of them are laughing at this because they really do want to punch women and really do believe women shouldn't be allowed to vote, and they get to live vicariously through videos depicting their own fantasies.

But then again, I'll admit that maybe I'm the one that's projecting. After all, any edgy humor I like is actually just a reflection of my own beliefs. Like, there's that song "I just killed a cop and now I'm horny". I don't enjoy it ironically because it would hypothetically piss someone off. I enjoy it because I actually hate cops.

Or, shit, a more relevant example: killing KKK members in Red Dead Redemption does not affect your honor score. I think that's hilarious, and not out of some ironic appreciation for how much it'll piss off rightwing gamers. I mean, YES, that also contributes! But also I think it's hilarious because I hate people in the KKK and get to live that fantasy vicariously through a video game. I gotta assume the suffragist haters are the same as me in that regard. But, yeah, I guess I could be rejecting and maybe theys actually good boys whose jus misunderstood :(

did she ded?

"Haha it's just a game dude relax"


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Like fuckin noone, not even even nazis feels like this, this idea that some people have some kind of desire to harm with vaginas is a fantasy that only exists in the deluded minds of idpol feminists. Maybe people on gurochan get hard to the idea, I guess. Actual violence towards women does not happen because of some kind of misogynistic sadism.
Only Zig Forums and further right think this. Yeah, when Zig Forums laughs at the video of punching suffragettes in the game its probably for the same sorts of reasons you're laughing at how killing KKK members doesnt affect your honor and shit like that. The vast majority of dumb teenagers who find this sort of shit funny are not in fact Zig Forums, they're just le enlightened liberal centrists who dont know shit about politics and hate SJWs. OP is talking about vaugely sort of right-wing-in-reaction-to-sjws shit on youtube, at least thats how I read his post, so I'm pretty confident saying most of it is more like what I described.
If OP really was talking about shit only Zig Forums-/v/-/r9k/ unholy trinity users pay attention to the answer is 'those people aren't actually that common, thread over'.
and on a pragmatic note:
Saying "they're laughing at the video of punching women cuz they wanna punch women!!" is exactly the sort of out of touch no fun allowed shit some dower sjw cunt would be saying, and is divorced from reality re: how your average millenial/zoomer normie actually sees the world and understands politics. Not only is it wrong, it feeds them.
If they're wrong for thinking its funny because they dont know shit about politics and are generally dumb cunts, the enlightened class conscious leftist is placed above them and they look like the dummy. And its also closer to reality.

This is more on the mark.

holy shit did Zig Forums become pure succdem?

This. When I play E.Y.E. I don't start laugh at the story because I want to be a cybernetically super-enhanced ancap ninja-knight who kills poor proles on behalf of enforcing IP laws for a theocratic mega-corporation, I laugh because the whole thing is so ridiculous that my brain can't find it anything but absurd. In relation to the suffragette thing, its like if I saw a game in which someone suddenly kicked a random dog. In real life I would find it abhorrent, but because its a game and I find it absurd and crude, I laugh.

Oof, go back to patreon discord.

What don't you understand? The vast majority of americans absolutely fucking hate SJWs and white liberal feminists regardless if they lean D or R.

That view comes from reality, not books and theory. It is thus invalid.

Zoomers not giving a fuck about what professionally offended Vampire Castle occupants think and instead want shit that'll actually improve their lives? That's what I choose to think anyway.

Nope.

ftfy

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nope, i'm an Aussie, but i do have lots of american friends online.

No, it's more effective, because the propagandists are liberal/socialist teachers, which youth are exposed to much more than a youtube channel. Furthermore, the teacher/student power dynamic makes the student much more susceptible to the teacher's propaganda.
Right wingers lost academia, so they lost the vote of the future. For the next decades, the question will not be "left or right?" it will be "liberalism or democratic socialism?".

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Lukewarm "racism is bad!" is not revolutionary socialism.
There's no mainstream game that either promotes actual communism, or marxism.
Actually, the closest that has come to it are Zig Forums & /v/ favorites like Deus Ex. And even then, it never let's you work towards that end. You can either continue to embrace capitalism, or destroy the world.

Shit post.

Here is some interesting info that I've got from Zig Forums. It seems as if the "generation Zyklon" thing might actually be something of a trend going on at the moment. Maybe it really is getting trendy to become a conservative in this day and age.
Or maybe this is just the case in Georgia, I don't really know.

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To rudely bump my own thread, I believe that PewdiePie has somehow managed to create a vortex of memery, CIANiggery and other sorts of infiltration tactics that might be enough to sway people over towards the right in Generation Z. It is kind of a disturbing trend, now that I think about it. How someone as fucking lame as that fucking gimp is able to appeal to younger viewers because he is owning the libs with Ben Sharpio.

user, I mean this in the best way possible, but stop.

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Go ahead and continue to live in your own farts my friend. I believe that every little thing counts, and there is a rather troubling trend that I may have underestimated here.

Actually the "youth wave" tends to be overstated compared to the actual phenomenon: 25+ people becoming more leftwing. Why? Simple, two words: housing & wages. Most of leftwing shifts have been due to young working age people not afford to pay rent/buy a home and the fact they get shit pay. In the UK, they tried to sell under 25s swing to labour, but found it was mostly 25-35 people swinging labour. It is people who have left uni that are moving in that direction. So I wouldn't read too much into it ngl.

I suppose that is the case.

What exactly are those suppose to show? Looks like the youth are all voting Dem in the US. Actually it looks like everyone supports the Dems except old white people.

Keep thinking this way and eventually you're going to turn into a knee-jerk liberal who thinks everything and everyone is a right-wing asset.
That or just Phil Greaves

It means they’re desperate for any sort of attention. Reactionaries are desperate to own the libtards and show everyone how getting angry at something so simple is why the left is “losing”. Coincidentally, my friend showed me a video of “fat feminist killed and fed to pigs” and everyone in the comments was like “take that, liberals!” and “social marxists would love to be triggered by this 😂”

I think they’ve become so hateful towards anything that requires progressivism that they’re willing to insinuate that violence & death are the only ways to own the libtards sometimes. It’s almost as if they don’t have facts and statistics to back up their claims? Huh… who knew.

Sorry to spoil your "fun".

Notice the difference between 18-24 and 25-29 ages for the Georgia political race. Millenials by and large, (even the white ones) have been for Abrama, while I bet that it's 50-50% for Generation Z. I believe this might be due to the resurgence of rightwing memes from 2013 onwards to here and I believe that we are currently in the peak of right wing propaganda (such as PewdiePie's alliance with the right, the most popular youtuber being right wing makes the right "cool")here in the US due to the fact that white Gen Zers are pro-Trump and pro-Republican. It might not last for long, but it might be a start of a new trend. I don't really believe that old trends will stick with the newer generation becoming more socially and politically "left-wing" as it has been in the past. Europe (outside of the UK) is 5 times worse with this issue, so I'm not too worried as a yankee.

P-Phil, is that you?

Geb Z has never experienced a recession as adults. Also from the scant data I've seen it appears that only white male Zoomers have any sort of conservative bent (at least when it comes to zoomer voters in presidential elections.)

Is pew really pro-right?
Like idk much of shitty utube "comedians" so….

?

Those issues that those young people agree with more are primarily issues that are spouted by US media as issues. None of them are actually leftist in essence - they aren't ideological. The young people will just get played with those empty promises or they get it in some other way that will leave them broke somewhere down the line.

Besides democrats/ republicans are both liberals, conservatism is just whatever liberalism was 20-30 years ago in America and not a real ideology. It's just about conserving some kind of liberal government that was there in the past. So whatever you vote in America you won't get socialism there ever unless through means of a revolution. Both parties are inherently against any kind of socialistic principles.

Honestly to me it just indicates that, of the zoomers that begged mommy and daddy to go to the voting booth, there were a lot republican voters (the gap really isn't even that big.) Doesn't mean they are more right wing. We really do need a recession though. A lot of these white suburban kiddies need to feel what capitalism is really like. That or die in Trump's war. Either way the world wins.

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You are more liberal than your average Zig Forums user, Zig Forums. Even the ancoms. You are the libcuck here.

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lol /leftycuck/, keeping revealing just how pathetically beholden you are to the sjw worldview

Are you literally 14 years old?

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PewDiePie is an international e-celeb. His fans are all suburban manchildren and actual children from all over the world, not just America.

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Honestly this.
On top of unwavering support for the free market, one of the fundamentals of liberalism since its inception has been the right of the individual to "own themselves" and for them to hold property, particularly private property on top of personal property. The legal and societal frameworks to uphold such arrangements are a very recent invention historically despite many today, such as the fool before us, taking such things as granted –as if some law of nature. This assumption of theirs underlines well how deeply rooted some elements of the liberal mindset are in them. Hell, I'd call it one of the greatest weaknesses of Zig Forumsacks and their kin, to quote Bookchin the blind assumption that what currently exists must necessarily exist is the acid that corrodes all visionary thinking.
But why am I lecturing to you? You most likely know this already.

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I wonder how many down low boomer fags tried to fuck these two. I'm sure they caught something too.

Back to your MGTOW forums, incel.

Turns out that my statement about "generation zyklon" being an actual thing was me buying into Zig Forums's height. As zoomers did not actually vote Republican in droves as many conservative news outlets would let you to believe.

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I watch these videos for entertainment and spend my time trying to convert Zig Forums to socialism. In fact arguing about US healthcare is one of my specialties.

It stems from a hatred of liberals and identity politics. Anything that upsets liberals i am for. When i see the videos of RDR2 i imagine all the outrage on twitter, the complete hysteria and panic attacks. I like to imagine some get so worked up they have heart attacks, all over some silly video game. And i smile.

What the fuck are you idiots under the impression is inside "books and theory"?

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1-Pewds used ben-shapiro as a joke, people as well in this board use.

Because the "okay this is epic", which in first place came from a retweet pewdiepie made about another ben-shapiro meme.

2-They are not the brand of radicool leftism or wathever. they are social democrats or a really shitty version of an anarcho communist.

And I'm giving you way more credit you deserve, since you are implying pewdipie is part of the media when he was canned twice and dropped relationships with his media partners long time ago, and two, you don't provide any link to a poll or scientific paper proving your (they are becoming left wing, which in itself is even a dumber statement because seems a thing that has a variation depending on the country, rather than the youth as a whole)

3-This thread is dumb, and unsurprisingly, OP has a dick for brain in his head.

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Most people don't view feminism as left wing because their primary interaction with it is libfems and tumblrtards talking about how much they hate men, who are all violent, rapist, oppressors. Hating feminists/'feminists' is a cross- political phenomenon.

Also, RDR2 is currently one of the hottest things, so a lot of people are going to watch, if only out of curiosity.

When Zig Forums talks about "gen z" they don't mean "adults age 18-24" they mean "kids age 13-18" (i.e. their peers.)

Kind of a Chinese Room situation, and honestly I don't care if they're doing it "ironically", they're still supporting and voting for the right.

Just call neo or classical liberalism

Or even better: right or left capitalism. That's what sjws and shit are. The left of capitalism and alt right is just right wing capitalism. Neither is any "less" capitalist merely different methods and rhetoric.

They have pedo moderators all the same

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