Extremely based and redpilled move by China

good pic but

It is true though? Sounds far-fetched…

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Thank you for this image.

Where does Daoism fit into this image?

Wizard

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I'll once again ask
Show me one place in the actual goverment description of social-Credit that is "Muh black mirror rating everyone with a score out of 5 stars" bullshit?

SAVED.

Reminder that Comrade Xi likes Han Feizi openly.

Legalism = Materialism with Medieval characteristics tbh

What do you call chinks coming to western countries by the millions and buying up all the real estate, jacking up prices to absurd levels in places like Vancouver and London and inserting themselves into political movements that actively undermine the white majority populations of these western countries? Or what about Tibet?

Chinks are bigger Jews than actual Jews.

Migration
Such as?
In my country (Aus) the Chinese along with the Vietnamese are touted as the BAZED conservatives by plenty of Right-Wingers as opposed to Muh Muslims
Stopping Monarchist Theocrats from restoring their god emperor is not imperialism

This is selective. You forgot to mention that they also have sinced pumped it full of Mandarin speakers, giving incentives for them to move into Tibet to breed out the local population. What is your ethical position on this, brother ?

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Fuck off with your recycled ethnonationalism. "Outbreeding" is nor part of socialist lexicon.

I didn't even state my position on it. I merely stated what was happening, and asked what their ethical position was because I was interested.

Why do people assume so much

if i was stalin to my own personal nation, this would be the first thing i would do everybody, pump every single country with people from other countries under my dominion, making sure nobody was a majority and that there was always a lot of ethnicities in the same place, i mean i this is fantastic to erode capitalist shit like ethnonationalism, national identity, regular nationalism, and to make sure my socialist nation would never be able to be destroyed by supporting national separatists, and you know to make sure the concept of nation or border would never be applicable again to any geographical sector

I agree with you wholeheartedly, except for me it would be for the ultimate dissolution of all nations as anything other than an archaic concept.

kek

This has been a historical practice with empires through the ages.

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There is Literally no Chinese Project to Outbreed Tibetans or Uyghurs or Mongol's or what else ever
Minority Ethnicities in these Rural Areas were / are explicitly exempted from the one child Policy and other programs to PREVENT Han supremacy

Cont.
Have you ever considered the reason the gov is attempting to encourage Migration to these Rural areas is because of how economically underdeveloped it is?

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well done Xing!

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That's part of it, of course. It's a very pragmatic move by the PRC

Well for one there's a government social-credit system in the first place.

How is financially manipulating poorer countries different than what the US does?

Social credit systems are a great idea (only crypto-libs will disagree), but you're fucking retarded if you don't think China is imperialist.

Chaddest chinese philosopher is Lao Tse

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Fucking hack

Mozi was the GOAT philosopher in the east

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Fuck off.

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I love you as a brother in any case, user

kek

not when it's used like 1984 where it measures your allegiance to the Party.
Black Mirror was utopian compared to China.

just like Yuropeen philosophy but with extra superstitious woo

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it literally is tho

Chinese philosophy fixed socialism

Stopped reading right there

Isn't the whole "social credit system" only applied to business owners, party members, etc.? All that I have read from it is that it doesn't apply to the average Joe at all because it is mostly a tool to combat bad business conduct and corruption.

In Germany, we already have such a "social credit system", fr ALL folks:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schufa

lmfao that image

Yes.
Its Literally just an expanded version of Xi's Anti-Corruption and is basically just meant to banhammer Porkies who get to big for their boots and Careerist / people that Xi's dosent like in the party
The people claiming "Its just Like dat episode of MUh Black Mirror" have obviously been watching the fox news tier coverage of it

Anyone who opposes the social credit "system" in China should just shut up or kill themselves.

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Ok in the name of Neutrality i will have to ask this
Since when has the Chinese Billionaire Uber-Porky class attempted this against the CCP?
The closest we got to that was Tienanmen 89 and after Deng allowed even further Market Reforms porky mostly ceased to give a shit

Chinese philosophy's happened, because there were too much smartass toppling each other for the sake of power struggle.

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can you prove this?

Not how this works. China made clear it's for business conduct and bureaucrats. If you think it applies to every citizen in some Black Mirror-esque fasion the burden of proof is on you.

China’s social credit system is universal.

Xi is king

This thread was derailed completely.

prove it

This. The only people who champion China other than delusional MLs are neoreactionaries. Just let it go.

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foreignpolicy.com/2018/11/16/chinas-orwellian-social-credit-score-isnt-real/

creditchina.gov.cn/xinyongfuwu/shixinheimingdan/

Long and the short of it is that there will exist a comprehensive infrastructure for the aggrandizement of data for state and market use and that this will, in private payment platforms, possibly lead to more general restriction of access; however, the sense of universal imposition of credit-based social, economic, political restrictions is not real in the sense that is often accused. It is a universal system, but the privations are largely reserved for professional and enterprise failure in meeting contractual obligation, court or judicial directive, and are an extension of the CCP campaign against negligent and unguided conduct (do not champion this blindly, as it is also a means to rectify distentions of capital and its productive processes and unify it in the control of the state guiding committees). This is not at all a vindication, as the further use of of this technology has made a pretty significant compendium of data a proprietary concern of private enterprise and state affaires, and from there the usual critiques of socialism, with Chinese characteristics return in full force. I'd recommend reading the top article, relatively short, and also going through the varying governmental links, if you can read Chinese. I would provide a translation, but I'm in the middle of work. I hope that this link will at least settle some of the more pressing points of contention in this thread with regards to the provision and difference between the social and financial credit systems which are soon to be advent across China

Where do you live?

US, it was a shitpost, though I would love to be a producer on a Chavista record label or something, spreading the power of Bolivarianism through every genre of music would be a dream come true

>creditchina.gov.cn/xinyongfuwu/shixinheimingdan/
The Chinese government is NOT a reliable source about China. This is like using the CIA World Factbook as a reliable source about Iran.

I am not certain of what your bone of contention is, as none of what I said was based upon that link. That said, the only analysis that has taken place, reactionary or otherwise, is based on the information provided by the provisional guiding committees for the social credit implementation - so the only info you could have is from the government, whether or not you believe the bullshit varnish is another thing entirely.

My particular commentary should not strike you as particularly offensive, either, as I do not naively foreclose upon the use of the aggregated data as a means to enact social privations, just that the system was not enacted specifically towards these ends - they will, however, be a major byproduct.

Source

There is one in every fucking Western country and highly sophisticated one in state like the U.S.A.

Its often just a little bit more vague and arbitrary than the Chinese concept (as it actually exist not the hyperbolic fabrications you hear repeatedin Washington controlled media rarely even bothering to add fake evidence that never actually even says anything they claim ), depends heavily on association (exactly what Washingtons parrotts keep falsely claiming about the Chinese system) and is often just keept secret because its usually a tool utlized for "security" and "crime fighting aka control citizens.

The only reason this is getting hyped is to normalize domestic oppression with constant

yep
fbi.gov/services/cjis/ucr

It hurts.

This is not at all a vindication, as the further use of of this technology has made a pretty significant compendium of data a proprietary concern of private enterprise and state affaires, and from there the usual critiques of socialism, with Chinese characteristics return in full force.

Socialist countries by definition can not be imperialist.

Gods = Mods

you're thinking of Zhou not Lao Tse

China isn’t socialist.

It literally is.

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the problem is that billonaries will probably dominate china in the future while poor people have to sleep at work because they play "too many" videogames.

Social credit scores are shit. Takes people's democratic rights. If you do something wrong you should be able to get a trial on the matter before being punished for it. Whether this card thing will turn out to be like that, or whether it's just a way to centralize payments in the Venezuelan economy, I'm not sure.

That being said, capitalists are going to be implementing systems like this just as well as the Chinese are.

Well we already do to an extent in the US: credit score. You can't do shit in the US financially without allowing private corporations to track your finances. Not only can you be punished for being too poor to pay back predatory compound interest loans, but if you try not to play the game and not use a credit card you'll never be given a loan in the event you suddenly need one (cash, car, or house). Also felons aren't allowed to vote in most states, so there are people who got caught with too much weed or having gay sex a few decades ago who can't vote. Hell we have a sex offender registry where people have been put on it for pissing by the side of a road, and have trouble moving or getting a job because of it.

Anyone who supports a social credit system is a fucking moron. If democrats proposed people who get traffic tickets not being allowed to own guns you'd guys would freak out. How is this any different?

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Chinese system that promotes good behavior and suppresses rightists and billionaires is somehow the same as burger credit scores
Talk about a false equivalence

I'm completely in support of a social credit system for corporations and people in positions of power, as well as people who have been convicted of counterrevolutionary sabotage. That would be brilliant. But it needs to be limited. The working class can't be subject to this shit.

People who have read actual Chinese sources have pointed out that the various schemes denoted zs social credit scores are in fact aimed at the tigers, not common people.