Communism hinges entirely on volunteerism and social unity...

Communism hinges entirely on volunteerism and social unity. Race religion and tradition are the main unifying forces in any population therefore only through strict adherence to religion and traditionalism can anything even remotely similar to communism be acheived.
There is only one time communism has ever worked for man kind and that is in the traditional family unit. Let's say we have a traditional family from around about the 1940s or 50s. We have a hard working husband who brings home all of the wealth the family requires to survive, his wife cooks and cleans at home and although she might not do as much work as her husband she still gets all the benefits of his labor. The baby is incapable of earning his/her stay but is still taken care of and receives better care than either their mother or father. This is a perfect example of the rule, "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need" being carried out. Communism is essentially and extension of this behavior to all members of society but the problem is that your average white Christian man doesn't love your average arabic Muslim as much as he loves his own wife. A white Christian man wouldn't even love other white Christian men as much as his own wife but their similarities of race and creed can foster a kinship that would result in higher charitableness between them and a generally higher trust community making them more likely to share their property with each other when it becomes necessary.
Leftist communism works against itself because it wants to destroy the very things that build a unified high trust community (race, religion, tradition, etc.).
tl;dr We traditionalists are better than you communiggers at everything, even at being communists.

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Race, religion and tradition are the main distractions from true class unity in any capitalist population*
ftfy
also tldr lol

Class is a literal social construct, all it determines is your income. Race is undoubtedly real as backed up by science and your religion/traditions have a huge impact on your moral views and therefore behavior.

Alright, I'll bite or whatever the hell.


Your first mistake is viewing this as "traditional" – like it's some kind of natural formation – rather than a historically contingent arrangement shaped by the productive relations which existed at that particular time.
Can you actually prove this, though? It's not like homogeneous countries like Japan are full of interpersonal trust and charity. Quite the opposite. When a Japanese man sees another Japanese man he just sees a stranger.
The way we look at it, industrial capitalism and the advent of the bourgeoisie shattered traditional patterns of deference and command – which comprised a pre-modern social order – rooted in feudalism. This has created a society that is dynamic and ever-changing, and one result is a sense of anomie and anxiety throughout the population. So the right wing project since then has been to try and restructure the society and economics around new forms of deference and command whether they be in the "nuclear family" of the 1950s, the nation-state, the U.S. national-security apparatus and troop worship, corporatist economics, etc. Communism is an attempt to break entirely with the capitalist mode of production and to move on to a next, higher stage of development. The 20th century saw only the first of the great waves of proletarian revolutions.

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Come back when you've read a book or two.

History has shown that class is more important and determinant than any "tradition" you speak of. See the French revolution and the Russian revolution

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no equality is achieved through your shitty idealogy it just a intricate way of implementing feudalism again while renaming the lords to the party elite and fiefs to communes

Lmao Zig Forumsacks constantly refer to Japan as an example of a "high-trust society". The land of yakuza, unmarried hikki virgins with body pillows, karoshi and bosses treating salarymen like cockroaches.


Boomer begone

most of us want a different model of government than the soviet union had.

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It's a traditional Christian family. I never said it was natural nor did I mean to imply it.
I can point to the Shakers who were a religious order founded in north America who had an oddly communistic lifestyle (aside from their religious beliefs of course).
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakers#Joseph_Meacham_and_communalism

Yeah Japan often ranks pretty low on lists of charity and interpersonal trust and various metrics which usually add up to meaning "this society is alienated as fuck."

Yeah you'd think he'd at least go back to the pre-modern period with extended clans and so on at the village level, but muh 1950s breadwinner

It was just an example, all throughout history christian societies espoused the same arrangement for families. That is, one man and one woman with the man as the head of the household.

You are fucking retard's. Tradition is fascist territory try again commie fucks stick to identity politics and ready yourself for the chambers. You white lefty cucks are the first to go hope old George's paychecks were worth it you race traitors and cucks

Wrong. Soros literally funded anti-communist groups like Solidarity in Poland to bring down the communists. Read a book you retard.

Take your meds and go to bed, grandpa.

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Whenever Zig Forums talks about muh traditional family they mean modern bouj nuclear family in 100% of cases. They also get really butthurt when you criticize the nuclear family even though they should also be critical of it. I've pretty much never seen one say we should go back to clans, extended families and shit. They're not traditionalists in any meaningful way, they just want an idealized lifestyle from anime and commercials, a fully modern petty bougie one. Protip: for traditional lifestyles look at India, Africa and Saudi Arabia instead of American commercials from the fucking 40s

You know it was typical for American men to have slave concubines in the 18th and 19th centuries, right? And as Martin Luther wrote, ""I confess that I cannot forbid a person to marry several wives, for it does not contradict the Scripture." Also in the middle ages, families would chop off preteen boys' balls so they could sing opera in high pitches, which is a fun fact.

I mean Crusader Kings II is just a video game but it's pretty accurate at all the concubinage.

Most families in Christian Europe lived in extended families at the village level and engaged in subsistence agriculture with property held in common. The nuclear family you're talking about developed in industrial Britain but became Cold War ideology in the United States. Even where I live (Texas) there are still small "towns" way out in the styx that are almost pre-capitalist in family formation. I know because my cousin married a girl from one of those towns – everyone who lived there were all related to each other lmao

Oh yeah most def

It's time to read.
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Also,
Nice dogwhistle, not that you were hiding much.

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What's interesting is that I'm pretty sure that India has one of the highest rates of male loneliness in the world. That's where all the "bitch lasagna" facebook lolcows come from. Western internet "traditionalists" think that a traditional society with arranged marriage will immediately net them free virgin aryan coochie, whereas in reality they would stay unmarried virgins until their 40s when they'd get married off to a humpbacked landwhale for two cows and a goat.

They didn't, they only went for the clergy who were huge oppressors. And Engels and Lenin specifically stated that launching all out war on religion would be pointless, and that religion should wither away in a socialist society, because they knew people wouldn't magically become irreligious the day after the revolution.

1940s and 1950 B.C. you moron

Do you even know what this means and the context its in?

Also, on your points about the family, the USSR did it better without forcing people to stay at home.

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Nigger Jew, I can assure you that the USSR did not do it better.

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come on son

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Eating dumpings, drinking vodka, playing big-ass chess and working a solid job and reading Marxist literature. Doesn't sound too shabby.

We can keep doing this if you'd like

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CULTURAL STIRNERISM NOW

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God damn I'm retarded, but holy shit what the fuck is this.

The proletariat were far more supportive of the fucking revolutions, you mong. The Sans-culottes were the biggest supporters of the Jacobins.

why the
FUCK
do you retards always bring race into it

Tradition and religion is fine. But you fucktards always go on about

FUCK OFF. You guys aren't even christian.

Because “tradition” for this sort of person literally just means preserving certain social hierarchies.

Why do Zig Forumsyps miss the point so much?

The purpose of critiquing political economy is not to determine which factors are more "innate". You cannot examine markets, regulations, national policies, labor laws and so forth as if one were examining the anatomical features of a horse. No shit class is a social construction, that's how we know our area of inquiry is SOCIOLOGICAL in nature.

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