France

that's all I got from your posts

why do I need to know other than half of them have parents that are sitting MPs in the Eu Parliament and the other half are just generic rich kids

you will be hung all the same for being class/race traitors(USER WAS STRUNG FTOM A LAMPPOST FOR THIS POST)

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neither but I highly doubt it will get co-opted by fascists in any effective way.

For starters, hanged: hung means we have big dicks. I'm not normally pernickety over language but if you are gonna make death threats do it properly.
Secondly, Google the '68, or better the Khmouri law protests: generic rich kids sided with the establishment on both those cases, generic rich kids shill for Macron. You don't know shit about France mate don't pretend you do.

What race do you mongrels belong to though?

Like OWS on steroids

Bitch that is a shit metaphor, make a better one

Go make a metaphor yourself

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Some french comrade needs to get his ass down there and radicalize them even more

the leftist are lost, I even saw anarchists whining against the movment

I still don't if left orgs are for or against it though.

Proof?

twitter.com/Patatatrac/status/1068872279545835529
twitter.com/TataCoquillette/status/1068860785361920000

For the left orgs it's complex: at the beginning all left (far or not) were against or at best very cautious, except for the leader and on of the most prominent member of France Insoumise.However, this movement is completely spontaneous, so many members of all parties are part of it and the orgs for most of them changed there mind these last days

it would appear a mixed bag

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YELLOW VESTS ARE NAZBOL

tbh I google translated those tweets and I still don't understand they meant…

So how are the orgs supporting it?

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/195266199#p195268457

it would appear Zig Forums are also confused as to whose this is. There are comments here praising antifa and anarchists as "useful"

stop talking about Zig Forums, their actual influence on politics is below-minimal.

I wrote it in my post : they support it but most of them were reluctants

best way to radicalize them is a false-flag shooting on them

Reactionary Gang lock in

I am gonna go and get an anarchist gf now

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less minimal than ours im merely looking at the general opinions expressed in online left and right communities.

but it's not even worth talking to these people. they literally don't believe in science, they are doomed to go extinct.
in the bigger picture, none of them matter.

Even if the movement is Crypto-Facist / French-Nationalist then it should be critically supported by the socialist movement against larger imperial forces like the EU and the US (Assuming the French Right-wing takes that stance)

This can be comparable to the Britain v Brazil concept icepick proposed

you realise most of history has been decided by people who don't believe in science right? Ever heard of know your enemy?

Thanks, pls don't destroy the cathedrals

true, but it HAS been ruled by people who adopt successful, non-self-destructive policies and thus are able to win the wars. any unironic Hitler worshiper is not interested in those things.

you must be some kind of false flagger, every single Marxist knows every epoch of history has been inherently self destructive or it wouldn't have destructed. The dialectic is the resolution of contradictions i.e. elements of a society which in and of themselves make it self destructive, such as capitalisms problem with demand caused by the fact that the tendency of the rate of profit to fall means the wages of the people who MUST buy its products MUST be pushed down

anyway i don't want to slide the thread i will end here and only discuss france

Police confirm the rioters stole an assault rifle from the police and set a "large building" on fire.

that's exactly what I'm saying, an ideology with as many contradictions as anti-semitic Fascism will never gain global dominance because it has even more contradictions than Liberal Capitalism.
Ideologies don't just become widespread because of their appeal, but because of their usefulness.

Based

Left-wing and right-wing politics is an illusion. There is us, the normies, and them. The yellow vests are a mixed bag and thats why every politician is crying about it. They call it an "illegal" protest. Fucking hell, tearing everything down and rebuilding is the only way to achieve true progress. No matter what comes next. It's the only thing we can all agree on: Kill the rulers, who ever they are.

People like you are why workers turn to the right.

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youtube.com/watch?v=YE3oEaje_j0

RT France is still live
youtube.com/watch?v=5vcAv8u-RMs

It will turn reactionary without strict guidance from the left. At the moment, its just lashing out against system without any deeper understanding of it. It will go either way depending on who capitalizes and contextualizes it. This is exactly the sort of raw anger Marxists are supposed to get behind and mold into a revolutionary socialist movement. But no-one ever seems to capitalize on it.

Oh come on, can we just have another epic counterrevolutionary period? Please?

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I don't fucking get it. Where is Melenchon and all the Socialist leaders who said they wanted to help the working class?
This is France's OWS, and even Burgerland had more Socialist leadership during that time than France has now, it's pathetic. So far the only people pledging allegiance to the Yellow Jackets seem to be Le Pen and her followers.

If i saw a Communist i would IMMEDIATELY stop rioting against the police. You are full of pozz'd aids, feminism and migrant Negroes. No way farmers started protesting in support of you.
You had your Chance with OWS and you blew it.

Every. single. Time.

okay retard

MACRON, PUTE À JUIFS 4:30
youtube.com/watch?v=YE3oEaje_j0

Why is every commenter a Zig Forumstard

Translation?

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Macron is a whore to Jews, he is referring to the the banks.
French media have been getting beaten up and run off from the protests.
I don't actually mind commies i just hate intersectional politics. I would take Marxist Leninist over Liberals any day.

For the jannies. Don't bother with b& i will decide when i will stop posting.

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this. I don't get why you godless commies are unhappy with the system. Have you seen this smartphone right here? Did they have this shit in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge? That's right, they didn't. Only capitalism can create such innovation. You're all lost.
I guess I'll just have to smite you all down with my invisible hand

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What do you think about webm related? Live fire?

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What did he mean by this?

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JVPITERIAN MIGHT

BAHAHAHHAHAHA

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what the fuck

Yeah no kidding right. I think we have bigger problems than autisming at each other. Maybe put differences aside until this shit is over.

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This. The essence of fascism is that it's an attempt to violently defend the interests of the established order through an ideology that intends to sow division. Surely there are people in the movement who hold dangerous and fascist/racist ideas, and surely they will need to be convinced to drop those ideas, but the mere fact that they are out there revolting against the establishment is a leftist feat and can't be reconciled with fascism at all. A genuinely fascist movement would never be able of co-opting these protests because they go against the very essence of what fascism is, i.e. extreme and dogmatic sympathy for the ruling class.

I do not see why fascists wouldn't be against this,
the movement for 'da environment'(very much a tool of the well established segments of the ruling class) has historically been intertwined with the phenomenon of fascism.

A movement for the environment is absolutely crucial, one of the most important things the Left should focus on right now. The problem is not the concern for the climate but the retarded neoliberal vision that wants to put all blame on the individual's shoulders.

this is the problem with r/socialism types and their idealism. attempting to strip a worker's movement of all of its racist elements is a task for utopians (read: totalitarians).
Zizek points this out, where the moment you engage in arguments about intersectionality you are automatically on the losing side, or the side that goes against the will of the working class.
I'm a brown person and I recognize there are racists and sexists probably within this movement, and yes it makes me uncomfortable, but I'm willing to work with these people and sacrifice my comfort for the sake of history. intersectional socialists in the end are much more interested in "having their cake and eating it too" so to speak. They'd rather sacrifice a worker's movement for the sake of their own comfort, and this is why idpol always fails the left in the end.

Checked. He had a cuck breakfast 🍳

Jesus christ

French government isn't playing. Left NGO have all run to hide in Paris so no intersectional dialectics or w/e you guys call it to fuck things up. Just a straight up working class revolt and that is why they are ready to start shooting at people.
Now is the time Zig Forums

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so we should accept baboon poster?

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I mean, to a certain degree yes, but I reckon baboon poster is some sort of skizophrenic. It's much different when you're on an anonymous forum because the mental and physical health of the people you're talking to is likely suboptimal. this isn't really a problem for more interpersonal groups irl. You can't really accept deductive and inductive reasoning without being a Marxist, unless you aren't aware of all the facts.

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twitter.com/Ozkok_/status/1068963627775000576
shit's outta control

French farmers poured shit all over this government building. LMAO.

youtube.com/watch?v=KGmJxK4Qhew

is there something you'd like to argue about user?

Do French Anarchists still hate the k!kes?

Holy shit

We need baboon posters to put the boons to society in the zoo.

And by boons I mean Capitalists. We can throw in a banana once in a while.

youtube.com/watch?v=AtlnsjVDV4c

This is old ass news

WHAT IN THE GODDAMN DID THEY MEME BY THIS?

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French Spring

It's all so tiresome

I have no words about this event either.

Well, I'm not French and I'm not saying what approach to take. I'm just pointing out the broadly apolitical character of the protests and the reactionary element within. I never said "do this" or "do that." It's up to the French left to decide.

I have seen Melenchon with the yellow jackets from his Twitter feed. I've also seen yellow jackets burning a monarchist flag.

Right. Macron is very much "save the environment through buying reusables." Green consumerism, etc.

That's like any protest in the U.S.

Here's Yvan Benedetti apparently getting K.O.'d by other yellow jackets:

twitter.com/fusekin/status/1068871792440291333

Benedetti is an extreme right-wing fascist activist type.

[Conspiratard mode: ON]
Wait a second. What if all this shit has been kicked off as some kind of false flag, with the intention of things eventually getting out of hand like this?
It could be Emperor I V P I T E R willing to create a pretext to go full police state. Or it could be some state's higher-up not liking the God-Emperor (too much neoliberalism and privatisations could be detrimental to many tall poppies in a traditionally statist and dirigiste country) playing this game to shame him and eventually BTFO him. I remember a general or some shit like that resigning after a few weeks into Manu's reign, and I don't remember the exact reason, but that created a few ripples.
[Conspiratard mode: OFF]

Anyway, Manu abolished the wealth tax, cut the income tax for the highest bracket, plus he's gutting the welfare state and pushing for the job market liberalisation like no one before. Now, he's shifting the financial burden on those at the bottom of the fiscal food chain. Shit was bound to happen.

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Just look at it dude, it's already under the guidance of the CIA or some homegrown fascist group.

You need to take the Kay pill and realize that environmentalism is a reactionary neo-feudal plot by aristocrats and ex-Fascists.

youtube.com/watch?v=9Ut0ZKgg_20

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twitter.com/Yasu9412/status/1068909464206696448

I'll be in France in nine days. What do?

Based Armchair

I'm pretty sure that France is still under high alert after the last terrorist attack. That severely limits the scope of any protest. A frenchie will have to clarify