Why do you push away "IDPOL"? Also, has anyone converted any? How?

Jordan Smith
Jordan Smith

When you can gain further support for the class struggle and build their knowledge.. make them think even if they attack you. You could recruit some… never know.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peoples'_Friendship_University_of_Russia
psychologytoday.com/us/blog/body-sense/201204/emotional-and-physical-pain-activate-similar-brain-regions
stormfront.org/forum/t1264152/

Michael Brown
Michael Brown

Because it's literally COINTELPRO subversion

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Jeremiah Myers
Jeremiah Myers

Online discourse was dominated by radical liberalism before this place took hold so I would imagine conversions have been plenty.

Tyler Lewis
Tyler Lewis

you dont need to really try, just try. i dont like identity politics that much either but sometimes it's "necessary". but not radical liberals.

David Martinez
David Martinez

i think it was started by white feminists honestly,…. but yr theory has merit

Justin Roberts
Justin Roberts

I think you fail to realize how much priority idpol gets in media traffic, it's effectively suppressive. you can't let it dominate political discourse, otherwise we lose by default.

Easton Ramirez
Easton Ramirez

The majority of idpolistas are radical liberals, a key part of separating radlibs and socialists is being able to differentiate between who is using leftist jargon as a cover for social liberal beliefs and who is using leftist jargon because they're a socialist.

Jonathan Perez
Jonathan Perez

I mean I dont mean let them into our circles I just meant personally have discourse with them… to then let them in IF they reveal themselves to truly believe.

Evan Long
Evan Long

This image loses all validity every single time I get to the part where it starts defending Bernie Sanders.

Clinton lying through her teeth about who enforces systemic racism (the fucking banks) makes my blood boil though

Landon Martin
Landon Martin

i know that, where you tryna go with this?

Ayden Moore
Ayden Moore

Bernie may be retarded, but he is still a victim of subversion for suggest the working class deserves anything.

Isaiah Rogers
Isaiah Rogers

yup. I think these "buzzwords" all have merit though however are separated between so many groups of "who has the most oppression" rather than we are all oppressed, lets deal with it TOGETHER. which could have an easy road to… anti-capitalist if explained…

Luke Scott
Luke Scott

I don't know, sounded like you were trying to work on radlib lost causes. You can get better returns on getting right wingers to read Marx to prove him wrong.

Caleb Gutierrez
Caleb Gutierrez

Fred Hampton was the most based and redpilled guy in this nation and Zig Forums would still call him an idpoler

Joshua Taylor
Joshua Taylor

economic justice falls under social justice too, it's just that social oppression is intersectional - so it must be addressed. I do find it depressingly typical that it is mostly cishet white males who oppose these diverse movements, and that this category has been said to gatekeep a lot of power in society, rly makes me think that there is some type of position they're unconsciously protecting. It would be interesting to hear opposing positions on social justice, besides the PC aspect of it since I already reject this tendency. Do you really think that that SJWs are anti-marxist? I feel like they simply lack theory to articulate their cultural analysis which can lead to unclear thinking, but their hearts are in the right place, I feel.

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Aaron Cook
Aaron Cook

epic strawman, now fuck off

Luke Russell
Luke Russell

Wrong. Fuck off back to reddit.

Thomas Anderson
Thomas Anderson

t. opportunist minority wrecker

Dylan Campbell
Dylan Campbell

I don't care if 'their hearts are in the right place", complaining about what should or shouldn't be culturally taboo is not helping anybody in the slightest. they are severely misguided.
If they can't see the error of their ways they have serious problems that are out of my scope or depth, maybe they need a therapist.

Adam Jackson
Adam Jackson

and Zig Forums would still call him an idpoler
We have literally never done this, in fact most anons find him to be anti-idpol and the reason he was killed.

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Angel Harris
Angel Harris

most anons find him to be anti-idpol and the reason he was killed.
the reason he was killed
Obviously it had nothing to do with the fact the Black Panthers were spreading class-consciousness

Hudson Roberts
Hudson Roberts

being so high off your redditor farts you think this place doesn't see them as one and the same

Carson Howard
Carson Howard

complaining about what should or shouldn't be culturally taboo is not helping anybody in the slightest. they are severely misguided.
Alright let's ban race-mixing and homosexuality again, amirite?
If they can't see the error of their ways they have serious problems that are out of my scope or depth, maybe they need a therapist.
Nice upper class college educated opinion my man

Cameron Johnson
Cameron Johnson

Obviously it had nothing to do with the fact the Black Panthers were spreading class-consciousness
That's kind of what I was saying though, their focus was on class and not specifically identity. They reached out to poor people of all strips and were universalist in their message, which was dangerous because they were breaking down the divisions the government was trying to push.

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Ryder Jackson
Ryder Jackson

Nice upper class college educated opinion my man
Yours sincerely and completely unironically, some faggot idpolista

Leo Lewis
Leo Lewis

Alright let's ban race-mixing and homosexuality again, amirite?
the fascists are not taking over, you absorb to many Clintonite spooks
Nice upper class college educated opinion my man
where's your argument?

Thomas Sullivan
Thomas Sullivan

Don't you have a thread to post in about how it's okay to say "nigger" to black people?

Blake Flores
Blake Flores

IdPol is a meaningless floating signifier to label witches you'd like to burn

Bentley Johnson
Bentley Johnson

but muh n word!!!
literally noone gives a fuck. take your revisionist politics back to your circlejerk.

Angel Flores
Angel Flores

basically

Brody Lee
Brody Lee

ignore him

John Perry
John Perry

Don't you have the entirety of the internet to be a whiny, social climbing, performative woke bitch in? You fucking nigger.

Oliver Cruz
Oliver Cruz

you're a counter-revolutionary. doesnt matter how much you think you're a badass edgy kid. you're not offering anything to the conversation. please stop.

Aaron Morgan
Aaron Morgan

the fascists are not taking over, you absorb to many Clintonite spooks
Donald Trump retweets the phrase "cultural marxism" like once a month. We have for our entire existence been a nation built on white supremacy and imperialism. Hillary and Bill Clinton are both. Why would you think I support either?
Nice upper class college educated opinion my man
where's your argument?
he thinks he earned his way into college

Adrian Collins
Adrian Collins

saying nigger is counterrevolutionary

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Robert Miller
Robert Miller

You have to go back.

Easton Barnes
Easton Barnes

sounds counterrevolutionary. sounds like yr against the education of the working class AND you sound like a trump supporter or even a radical liberal.

Brody Brooks
Brody Brooks

cool. bye

Jackson Turner
Jackson Turner

You showed me.

Colton Price
Colton Price

pleb
Well, I don't deny these people their freedom of association and modes of self-governance, even concerning the black nationalism of anti-racist groups. It only makes sense that emotionally sensitive people will band together for internal survival (life is traumatic, so refucing it's carnage is rational for mental health preservation), as long as they don't deny me my personal freedoms then I'm fine. Even with all this panic over SJWs, I'm still not seeing a restriction in my internet freedoms to say whatever I want. (A permanent solution to that would be public ownership of course.)

misguided
yeah, as I said, they lack essential socialist theory, but that isn't a major problem - they aren't as lost as the alt-right or anything.

Elijah Hill
Elijah Hill

it's a radlib calls other people radlib episode
Okay, now this is epic.

Kevin Carter
Kevin Carter

the only reason "cultural Marxism" is taken seriously is because of idiots like you who misrepresent Marxism.
complaining about manspreading isn't revolutionary

Connor Sanders
Connor Sanders

this whole heckin' thread
Yikes!

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Joseph Perry
Joseph Perry

I'm not making any points about liberty, the problem is these people dominate the media and turn the left-right dialectical into a fucking shitshow

Jordan Cook
Jordan Cook

there focus was on class with a point in preserving identity through community programs and education…. class-consciousness without uplifting the brown is bullshit. classist soft-socialism

James Gomez
James Gomez

claim to be class-conscious
go out of my way to enforce ethnic classes and white exclusive Marxism
Why do people think I'm a Nazbol guys?

Brayden Carter
Brayden Carter

false flagging? this is a new low, reddit

Matthew Davis
Matthew Davis

the brown
lol
be a radlib
get called out for it
call everyone a nazbol
Why does leftypol think you're a radlib, fam?

John Ramirez
John Ramirez

the only reason "cultural Marxism" is taken seriously is because of idiots like you who misrepresent Marxism.
This is the argument that justifies the holocaust.

Jose Smith
Jose Smith

He can't say nigger around his black friends while you mutually mock each other.
Go into trades, no on cares. Nigger, like any word, requires context. If I called some random person on the street a faggot, whore, asshole, bitch, fuckboy, motherfucker, slut, cocksucker, coon, cumskin, spic, chink, or nigger they would probably get mad at me, and rightfully so. But saying those words with no intent of offense and with friend while shooting shit shouldn't be treated as racist, otherwise my entire "multi-ethnic" or diverse, whatever you faggots call it now would be very, very racist.

Elijah Robinson
Elijah Robinson

you realize there's an in-between between being a literal buzzfeed-spewing SJW and a literal psychopathic nazi right?

Josiah Ortiz
Josiah Ortiz

How could someone justify something that never happened?

Juan Butler
Juan Butler

Every white /pol/lack says this but I've been to /pol/ meetups and I know how you people are about swearing in public.

Hudson Perry
Hudson Perry

Bernie Sanders
Jew
victim
It's not really victimhood when you get off to being cucked.

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John Turner
John Turner

Pic related, it's the /pol/ commander.

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Justin Miller
Justin Miller

class-consciousness without uplifting the brown is bullshit.
Excuse me, what the fuck are you talking about? Class consciousness implies you want to lift ALL of the working class up, why would "the browns" be left behind?

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Samuel Rodriguez
Samuel Rodriguez

ignore this person. theres like 3 people trying to derail this thread. or maybe one bored loser. IGNORE,

Bentley Hughes
Bentley Hughes

unironically following Slavoj of Akkad

Adrian Diaz
Adrian Diaz

EVERYONE EXCEPT WHITES ARE OPPRESSED
fuck off /pol/nigger

Daniel Johnson
Daniel Johnson

this is what happens when you make a thread about identity politics. it's the only realm where right-wing brainlet opinions can be taken seriously.

Hudson Gutierrez
Hudson Gutierrez

unironically staying on a site that upsets you even though the entire corporate internet panders to your politically oriented hobbies

Brandon Gonzalez
Brandon Gonzalez

nah, the media is privately owned by the bourgeoisie to create a narrative of leftists being farcical and unreasonable as a display of right-wing reaction to solidify fascism.

I mean this is basic propaganda stuff, look at Tommy Robinson for example, he is a crypto-Jew zionist who has created this narrative that all muslims are evil, by pointimg to a few examples of religious extremism. Why do we say "not all muslims", but not "not all SJWs"? everything we see in the media has a bourgeois plot behind it, you can't abandon the proletariat because they might be a bit confused. Don't forget that a lot of this is college kids, they're allowed to make mistakes.

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Ryder Cruz
Ryder Cruz

Every white /pol/lack says this but I've been to /pol/ meetups and I know how you people are about swearing in public.
Dude, I just said I went to trade school, how does that a line to being a /pol/yp? I'm not even fully white and even if I was, why would that even matter?

Jonathan Brown
Jonathan Brown

everyone except whites
Jewish person in a high seat of power is completely innocent and means well for all the goyim
Well, that was out of Zig Forums field

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Aiden Cruz
Aiden Cruz

They still can't be taken seriously, and I'm not sure why you think they can.

Austin Allen
Austin Allen

well, fred hampton wasn't exclusively just "LETS LIFT CLASS CONSCIOUSNESS FOR ALL WORKER." Period, It was more extensive with a focus on brown people as that is who he connected with and his family… etc we can see class consciousness without uplifting the brown in th USSR.. Cuba under Castro… Che…. a lot of anti-black and/or ignorant socialist leaders.

Ryan Powell
Ryan Powell

high seat of power
yes I'm sure Trump is working very hard to attack the innocent little nazis :^(

Lincoln Wright
Lincoln Wright

because SJWs somehow manage to double down on their retardation instead of actually refuting any bullshit they spew

Kevin Powell
Kevin Powell

BROWN 👏🏿 PEOPLE 👏🏿 ARE 👏🏿 SOCIALISM 👏🏿

Oliver Mitchell
Oliver Mitchell

yeah, i figured it would be some upset hardcore separatist white ML's but it seems just to be someone/s from POL.

Juan Myers
Juan Myers

Still thinking trump is /pol/'s /ourguy/
That's adorable.

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Julian Morgan
Julian Morgan

join the BDS if you care so much about not eating Zionist poopie, but you don't because you're simply a self-loathing retard who's lashing out at everything blindly

Eli Powell
Eli Powell

i think the point they were trying to make was that we can't let their politics rule our politics in our media… we can't let radlibs enter into leftism with "cultural marxism".

Josiah Brooks
Josiah Brooks

stop replying to the TROLLLLLLL

John Edwards
John Edwards

We need socialism - but just for the white guys.

Dylan Reed
Dylan Reed

You're the aggressor
Immediately starts screaming 'fuck you' and name calling at obvious shit post
You delude yourself in your own self righteousness.

Brandon Bennett
Brandon Bennett

we can see class consciousness without uplifting the brown in the USSR.. Cuba under Castro… Che…. a lot of anti-black and/or ignorant socialist leaders.
Excuse me, WHAT? I can't remember any of those place discriminating economically against "the brown". Maybe Che had some negative early opinions, but he never physically discriminated or oppressed "the brown". Seriously, what the fuck are you on.

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Jordan Kelly
Jordan Kelly

Fuck I'm sorry it's 3:00 in the morning and I can't help it, I'm easily baited

Alexander Morris
Alexander Morris

But they make independent media, it's not like there is a limited space on the internet for leftist content - the sorry fact is that more people are interested in conservative-liberal content than marxism, if we figured out how to make marxism more popular in media then we could get the revolution underway.

Christian Myers
Christian Myers

well Stalin/Lenin/Castro/Che didn't discriminate against brown people as far as any legislation but they did nothing to combat racism in the USSR/CUBA and use brown people as props "THE USSR/CUBA IS GREAT!!!! NO RACISM". But many brown people that went there left because of this.

Angel Walker
Angel Walker

How am I a troll again? user from here . I've literally said this before on this board not even a month ago.

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Cameron Long
Cameron Long

i dont think anyone's saying that but identity is important and I don't think alot of white people understand this when this entire society is… their identity per say… they dont have to worry about the preservation of identity. but we shouldnt make seperate groups for these specific identities…

Luke Kelly
Luke Kelly

I think you said it a few days ago actually.

Austin Russell
Austin Russell

I don't stay on sites that upset me. I was browsing 4/pol/ before you were born. If you think you're offending me, feel free to keep posting.

Dude, I just said I went to trade school, how does that a line to being a /pol/yp?
I assumed you were a /pol/lack because
If I called some random person on the street a faggot, whore, asshole, bitch, fuckboy, motherfucker, slut, cocksucker, coon, cumskin, spic, chink, or nigger they would probably get mad at me, and rightfully so. But saying those words with no intent of offense and with friend while shooting shit shouldn't be treated as racist, otherwise my entire "multi-ethnic" or diverse, whatever you faggots call it now would be very, very racist.
Is a very specifically fascist justification for racism.
I'm not even fully white and even if I was, why would that even matter?
Oh please, that's why people let you get away with it.

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Isaac Thomas
Isaac Thomas

why are we still responding to trolls

Levi Robinson
Levi Robinson

I am SICK and TIRED of the NAZBOL TROLLS who are trying to take THE BROWNS OUT OF SOCIALISM

SOCIALISM WAS INVENTED BY JOSEF STALIN - A PROUD NUBIAN PRINCE

Shame on all the historical revisionists who are trying to WHITEWASH the based black man JOSEF TREYVON STALIN!!!

Brandon King
Brandon King

FB IMG
It has to be true because it has so many other followers

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Noah Davis
Noah Davis

he thinks 4/pol/ is an old board
Reddit's calling.

John Hill
John Hill

well this has been fun folks. i sincerely hope the trolls grow up and moderators start dealing with them.

Jace Sanders
Jace Sanders

reddit namefag
I hope they deal with you first

Dylan Brooks
Dylan Brooks

Probably, I lose sense of time sometimes.
well Stalin/Lenin/Castro/Che didn't discriminate against brown people as far as any legislation but they did nothing to combat racism in the USSR/CUBA and use brown people as props "THE USSR/CUBA IS GREAT!!!! NO RACISM". But many brown people that went there left because of this.
Excuse me, what? There were people who literally reapplied to go back. I'm going to need sources. Understand racism is a system of oppression, not just a few mean people who might be prejudiced.

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Evan Moore
Evan Moore

You'd be amazed with the zoomers who go around claiming loli should be banned

Josiah Rogers
Josiah Rogers

If post-capitalism doesn't end prejudice, then what will?

Christian Reed
Christian Reed

Basic human decency

Sebastian Young
Sebastian Young

Is a very specifically fascist justification for racism.
What the hell do you think racism is? It isn't mean people, its a system of oppression.
Oh please, that's why people let you get away with it.
Fuck off. And somehow I'm the racist when you're literally basing peoples ability to joke around with each other on race. I "get away with it" because I know these people, because we get along and shoot shit. Maybe actually talk with somebody of a different race rather then treat them humans and co-workers instead of delicate flowers who could fall apart at any moment or political tool/example you faggot.

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Ethan Russell
Ethan Russell

What the hell do you think racism is? It isn't mean people, its a system of oppression.
he thinks acting in accordance with the system of oppression isn't the definition of being a racist

Henry Mitchell
Henry Mitchell

he thinks being really woke will help the movement
meanwhile, in the global laughing stock of leftism, his home country

Luis Young
Luis Young

t. youtu.be/Z2HcPn83jbw

Justin Price
Justin Price

resisting the urge to uphold the status who
lame-ass liberal wokeness

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Nolan Lewis
Nolan Lewis

*Maybe actually talk with somebody of a different race and treat them like humans and co-workers instead of delicate flowers
That's what I meant to say
Everyone I don't like is a troll
kys
Conditions? People working with each other? Proximity? Even if it doesn't end all prejudice, the system that allows others to enforce their prejudices economically won't exist. If someone is being a dick to you over such things, tell him to fuck off. If he doesn't, report him or stop associating with him.
he thinks acting in accordance with the system of oppression isn't the definition of being a racist
I'm going to ask you this one time, what do you think a "system of oppression" is? Hint: It isn't mean words, its bigger than that.
Had a laugh

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Lincoln Scott
Lincoln Scott

What bullshit. The USSR did more than any other country to combat racism. And I mean white and black racism, which wasn't even very relevant to them geographically as opposed to racism between nationalities of the USSR which was also solved.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circus_(1936_film)en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peoples'_Friendship_University_of_Russia

b-but it was all propaganda!
And you have the gall to call someone else a radlib?

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Gavin Scott
Gavin Scott

The real socialist cultural revolution will be achieved when it's socially acceptable for white guys to call each other nigger. Radical liberals just want to create a new hierarchy, where white guys are not allowed to say nigger at all, even in the comfort of their own homes. Sounds like fascism to me.

Benjamin Garcia
Benjamin Garcia

I'm going to ask you this one time, what do you think a "system of oppression" is? Hint: It isn't mean words, its bigger than that.
It's when a brother can't get a job because he looks like a criminal. It's when a brother gets pulled over and gets his ass beat by the police for looking like a criminal. It's when you refer to your friends with a word literally designed to dehumanize them in a society that thinks they look like a criminal. It's when people smoke pot, which everyone agrees is basically harmless, and blacks and Hispanics get arrested or cited at 6x the rate of the majority population. It's when you can't get a house in a rich neighborhood even though you got money, because your very existence devalues the property.
If you think language has nothing to do with systemic oppression it's because you're a fucking brainlet who's memes control you.

Wyatt Wood
Wyatt Wood

It's when a brother can't get a job because he looks like a criminal. It's when a brother gets pulled over and gets his ass beat by the police for looking like a criminal.
It's when people smoke pot, which everyone agrees is basically harmless, and blacks and Hispanics get arrested or cited at 6x the rate of the majority population.
It's when you can't get a house in a rich neighborhood even though you got money, because your very existence devalues the property.
This
It's when you refer to your friends with a word literally designed to dehumanize them in a society that thinks they look like a criminal.
Not this
If you think language has nothing to do with systemic oppression it's because you're a fucking brainlet who's memes control you.
Maybe because I'm a fucking materialist who realizes oppression is based on the economic system and conditions people are put in rather than what words two consenting people say to each other you absolute child.

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Nolan Ramirez
Nolan Ramirez

t. Has Never Read Orwell

Dylan Bailey
Dylan Bailey

Social discrimination leads to real neurological damage, feelings can physically hurt. What is the materialist consideration of this fact?

Aaron Foster
Aaron Foster

If this is true then Americans must be the most socially discriminated people on the planet.

Ryan Moore
Ryan Moore

Read Orwell
Read a person who sold out USSR sympathizers when he came home
I've read Orwell, and this isn't an argument. I'm not an anarchist or a DemSoc.
Social discrimination leads to real neurological damage, feelings can physically hurt. What is the materialist consideration of this fact?
Besides this idea of "feelings can physically hurt" being the most retarded thing I've heard in this thread so far, most racism is a result of people looking for a scapegoat for their economic conditions, its a result of people taking their economic problems and pushing it onto an "other". With socialism, as proven in the past, this attitude declines while with destabilized economies and failing capitalist systems, we see this increase.

Grayson Sullivan
Grayson Sullivan

who invited left twitter

Juan Hernandez
Juan Hernandez

No fucking idea, at this point I'm convinced this is someone baiting me pretending to be left twitter. At least I hope so, if this actually is someone from twitter then I'd like to know how they even got here from their "woke" chamber.

Benjamin Mitchell
Benjamin Mitchell

Dumb anti-intellectual ☭TANKIE☭poster
psychologytoday.com/us/blog/body-sense/201204/emotional-and-physical-pain-activate-similar-brain-regions

Nathan Foster
Nathan Foster

Bat'ko the Manarchist

Logan Robinson
Logan Robinson

why is there never any relevant conversation on this subreddit? /r/leftypaul is literally cancer

Kayden Martinez
Kayden Martinez

This person literally says people should take anti-depressants after being rejected. I'm also not finding anything where feeling actually physically hurt you. But lets assume this stupid argument, where do you think most feelings of alienation and loneliness come from? I'm severely depressed, cynical, and have OCD that causes me to focus on singular negative thoughts every day because my brain thinks that if stop thinking about them I'll miss something. Want to guess what negative thoughts preoccupy my mind most of the time? It isn't some kid who made fun of my race. It isn't the shit talking that goes on in the trade shop. It isn't some asshole who has opinions I don't like. Want to hazard a guess what bothers me everyday, what conditions that get under my skin? Because its not words.

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Kayden Kelly
Kayden Kelly

idk mister no post history, how about you and your reddit friends actually try debating without being a bunch of redlibs?

Michael Davis
Michael Davis

This person literally says people should take anti-depressants after being rejected.
Tylenol is an anti-depressant
I'm also not finding anything where feeling actually physically hurt you.
Your brain literally can't tell the difference between physical and emotional pain. Third paragraph:
This study was not done in order to promote acetaminophen and other analgesics as psychoactive drugs. Rather, the idea was to emphasize that over the course of evolution, our bodies decided to take the economy route and use a single neural system to detect and feel pain, regardless of whether it is emotional or physical. While it may be a good idea to take a pain reliever in the acute phase of feeling physical and emotional pain, no one is proposing this a long-term cure for dealing with hurt feelings and grief.

But lets assume this stupid argument, where do you think most feelings of alienation and loneliness come from?
Keep enforcing the system of oppression my man. Porky will lift you out of poverty one day, I'm sure.
I'm severely depressed, cynical, and have OCD that causes me to focus on singular negative thoughts every day because my brain thinks that if stop thinking about them I'll miss something.
Want to guess what negative thoughts preoccupy my mind most of the time? It isn't some kid who made fun of my race. It isn't the shit talking that goes on in the trade shop. It isn't some asshole who has opinions I don't like. Want to hazard a guess what bothers me everyday, what conditions that get under my skin? Because its not words.
Holy fuck
/tumblr/index.html
/leftytrash/
/blog/index.html
Pick one, go and stay go.

Jeremiah Foster
Jeremiah Foster

Keep enforcing the system of oppression my man. Porky will lift you out of poverty one day, I'm sure.
I'm a communist you faggot, I want to get rid of the actual system of oppression that exists, which is fucking capitalism.
Holy fuck
/Tumblr/
/leftytrash/
/blog/
Pick one, go and stay go.
I'm literally arguing that conditions and capitalism affect me more psychologically then words, how is that tumblr or anything else? Worrying about how I'm going to survive economically, how I'm going to get ahead in my job, if I'll still have a job, how people I know and see are going to survive economically, how deep we are in this shitty system, how empty our vapid consumer society is, how politically we are played by governments and corporations in tandem with each other, how lives are being thrown away and lost in foreign wars fro profit, how people can't afford healthcare or proper education, how our infrastructure is falling apart, how empty and hopeless our future under capitalism looks, that's what bothers me every day and I assume many others. You know what affects nearly everyone? Their bills, their pay, how much they can afford to spend on food, their kids education, etc.. That's the shit that universally hits nearly everyone, both wallet and home. Words? I can't eat words, words don't make feed my family or pay the bills. They don't mean shit, and you bet your ass if you told everyone that they could all live in ensured economic security tomorrow at the cost of people being able to say "mean words" to each other consensually, they would agree in a heartbeat. I'm not even saying you can say slurs to random people, just people you know who are ok with it, you faggot.

Nathan Perry
Nathan Perry

ending capitalism will end racism
Point at him and laugh

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Juan Harris
Juan Harris

Point at him and laugh
You're not in friendly waters here redditor, go back to where people slap your back for making "woke" posts on everything but capitalism and its effects.

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Jacob Barnes
Jacob Barnes

Economic reductionism is revisionism

Elijah Richardson
Elijah Richardson

To quote an old phrase from anons before, "Addressing the dominance of class in a class system is not reductionist in any way or form".

Lincoln Watson
Lincoln Watson

Because it's retardation and nobody should bother with it. Idpol is for failures, faggots and brainlets.

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Christian Russell
Christian Russell

don't underestimate our influence. If we were truly irrelevant letftwitter and tumblr and whoever wouldn't hate us at all. And how it now stands it seems like class is getting back to international politics

Nolan Perry
Nolan Perry

into the fire you go

Michael Hall
Michael Hall

IDPOL is bad for people's mental health.

Liam Walker
Liam Walker

HAHAHHAHAHAHA A AAAAHHHA AHAHHAHAHHAHA HAHAHHAA

Luis Harris
Luis Harris

racism is caused by capitalism and not exploited by it
Wtf I love the Expulsion Edict now

Camden Morgan
Camden Morgan

Not over night it won't no, but it will happen.

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Connor Harris
Connor Harris

While this idealism doesn't come from a bad place, it more or less ignores how proles uphold the system of oppression that Porky enforces. Using racial epiphets doesn't make you a capital R racist, but you are literally laying the groundwork by enforcing the language of oppression. Language has a significant impact on the way people think. You can attempt to dispute it but more money has been spent on influencing how people think through language than has been studied on cognitive linguistics. If you call me a faggot or a nigger, it's a non-negotiable ass-beating. A lot of people have the same stance. Uncle Tom user has the right to not get offended, but it's a position one acquires from not being called nigger or faggot everyday.
why are you on redchanit if you're scared of mean words
Anonymous posters on the internet =/= human beings. I unironically think places like /pol/should be allowed to exist just so that non-stormfags can know what they look and sound like

Ian Gomez
Ian Gomez

Capitalism does exacerbate racism, but thanks for validating what I said earlier about the SYSTEM giving POWER to racist attitudes or ideas.
While this idealism doesn't come from a bad place,
Whelp, I guess Marx is idealist now, better pack it up.
it more or less ignores how proles uphold the system of oppression that Porky enforces.
A system of oppression can not be upheld without enforcement, this whole idea of yours lays the blame of the system on the proles who lack actual material power to enforce anything. What do you even mean by uphold?
Using racial epiphets doesn't make you a capital R racist, but you are literally laying the groundwork by enforcing the language of oppression.
enforcing the language of oppression.
Fucking how?
If you call me a faggot or a nigger, it's a non-negotiable ass-beating.
Good thing I mentioned earlier here that calling random people these things will rightfully make them mad and shouldn't be done and that I was referring to consenting individuals. Unless you're talking about beating up random individuals who are talking with each other and happen to use those words with one another because they are both ok with it, then I really don't know what to say.
Uncle Tom user has the right to not get offended, but it's a position one acquires from not being called nigger or faggot everyday.
First, in what way am I an Uncle Tom? I'm not defending actual racism or oppression, I'm just using words with friends. Have you ever actually been in any neighborhood besides the suburbs?
but it's a position one acquires from not being called nigger or faggot everyday.
Literally said earlier that I was and other things all the time.

Ryan Lee
Ryan Lee

While this idealism doesn't come from a bad place,
Whelp, I guess Marx is idealist now, better pack it up.
Marx literally thought the working class would seize the means of production. As long as the United States of America exists and the footwork of racism is upheld, communism will inevitably fall into an all-out Nazi masturbation fantasy.
A system of oppression can not be upheld without enforcement, this whole idea of yours lays the blame of the system on the proles who lack actual material power to enforce anything. What do you even mean by uphold?
Allow me
cop beats a black kid to death
"Nigger deserved it"
"Shouldn't have been acting like a thug"
"We need to protect our children from these people"
No racism there, no socialization to accept systemic racism as normal. Language has nothing to do with this game despite all evidence supporting the contrary
enforcing the language of oppression.
Fucking how?
By defending the status quo
If you call me a faggot or a nigger, it's a non-negotiable ass-beating.
Good thing I mentioned earlier here that calling random people these things will rightfully make them mad and shouldn't be done and that I was referring to consenting individuals.
Just because you backpedalled from here doesn't mean I'm not following you. You don't call people nigger, spic, wetback, darkie, giraffe, pencil-pusher. End of story. If your father didn't teach you this it's because your father is Porky. Learn some respect for your fellow human beings. If you're my friend and you call me a nigger or a faggot, you're going to the hospital, and you're no longer my friend. End of story
inb4 specific example of a friend accidentally dropping a word
"What did you just say?" Is the only warning you deserve.
Unless you're talking about beating up random individuals who are talking with each other and happen to use those words with one another because they are both ok with it, then I really don't know what to say.
Yep that's what I'm talking about. You got me.
First, in what way am I an Uncle Tom? I'm not defending actual racism or oppression, I'm just using words with friends.
Pic related
Have you ever actually been in any neighborhood besides the suburbs?
I've literally never been to a suburb. Inner city till the day I die.
but it's a position one acquires from not being called nigger or faggot everyday.
Literally said earlier that I was and other things all the time.

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Nolan Scott
Nolan Scott

As long as the United States of America exists and the footwork of racism is upheld,
The footwork of racism is upheld by capitalism, if you're worried about proles not working together then the solution is a solidarity built on class which usurps all divisions.
No racism there, no socialization to accept systemic racism as normal. Language has nothing to do with this game despite all evidence supporting the contrary
Firstly, are you seriously comparing me shooting shit with friends to someone who says a black man beaten to death by a police officer deserved it? What the hell, how are those in anyway equivalent? Second, the beating came first and occured out of a system which would have that person beaten regardless of language, those racists you speak of (which to clarify I'm against) couldn't have shit done to black people if they didn't have the capitalist state or police.
By defending the status quo
How exactly am I defendin the status quo as a communist? You sound like a fucking liberal.
Just because you backpedalled from here doesn't mean I'm not following you.
How did I backpeddle, I've literally stayed on the same point I discussed at the beginning, I even said that if someone called another person a nigger on the street they deserve to get mad.
You don't call people nigger, spic, wetback, darkie, giraffe, pencil-pusher. End of story. If your father didn't teach you this it's because your father is Porky. Learn some respect for your fellow human beings.
Too fucking bad, we call each other these things because unlike you we don't have a stick up our ass all the time and know when were joking, being playful, and fucking with each other. Your father probably said some nasty shit jokingly with his friends in his youth too. But yeah, my father is totally a bourgeoisie, thats why I'm working minimum wage and am studying a trade. You got me. Faggot.
If you're my friend and you call me a nigger or a faggot, you're going to the hospital, and you're no longer my friend. End of story
Good thing you're not my friend and the ones I have love shitting on each other because they aren't thin skinned or easily emotionally bruished like you.
"What did you just say?" Is the only warning you deserve.
Tough talk from someone people probably say to fuck off all the time.
Yep that's what I'm talking about. You got me.
That's what you had a problem with me doing, don't you backpeddle now. Lets clarify this even more so you can clarify it again for me brainlet. Me and a group of friends are standing around. A friend smiles and calls me a slur relating my race/orientation and I respond to him with a slur relating to his race/orientation. We laugh becuase we enjoy the mutual mockery. You're saying you, after hearing this, would walk into a mutliracial, multiethnic group of kids a threaten to beat them up? You want guess how I know you aren't actually from the inner city?
Pic related
Wait, so a megacorp being able to push their message further because they have more influence and money is comparable to me saying a slur or swear? Newsflash douchebag, I don't have that kind of power. Me standing around with black people isn't murdering black people or destroying labour groups.
Inner city till the day I die.
I have no idea how you haven't heard nastier shit already from people. There are people who will actually mean their jokes and have racial animosity, and that's not what I'm doing.

Fuck you, do you read my posts? Either now you're back-peddling, or you've just been baitin me this whole time.

Chase Walker
Chase Walker

all this projection
Holy shit user. Don't forget to go vote to epic for the win PWN these liberals
stormfront.org/forum/t1264152/

Aaron Foster
Aaron Foster

Ok, you have to be baiting now or be a flaseflag. Fuck off to /pol/ or whatever reddit you came from.

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Carson Long
Carson Long

identity politics will always fail for the sole reason that they treat their coincidental attribute, be it skin color or gender, or whatever, as the sole defining characteristic of their existence. They call it IDENTITY politics for a reason. Idpollers are spooked and don't understand The Unique and basically they need to read Stirner.

Angel Foster
Angel Foster

How tiresome

Evan Wilson
Evan Wilson

bla bla bla spooks muh stirner

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