For those wondering why jac.obin is jakkkobin

jakkkobin is indeed cringe worthy libdart garbage. Jakkkobin just posted an article talking about M-:L party in Belgium gaining gains, and comments are cringe worthy garbage.

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NOW THIS IS AN EPIC GAMING MOVEMENT

Fuckkking Jakkkobin kkkrakkkers nkokt akkepting thke REKKKAL EKKKISTING SOKKIALISM okkkf Breshkkknevite USSKKKKKR!

wordfilters are fucking retarded, no exceptions

Yeah, I wish News user had pass, but jakkkobin sucks and it's fan base is cringe.

Fun fact: Sunkara considers himself a Leninist.

Another Xexizy?

still a stupid wordfilter.

Website with stupid policy and reactionary base. It's got word filter it deserves.

I was wondering which specific article shitting on communism got them wordfiltered like that.

CNN, FOX, and WaPo say much worse shit, yet there’s no filter on them.

kek'd audibly

I think we should just put the archive link of jacobinmag articles in the OP's from now on.

Wow, Jacobin, you fucking traitors

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Yeas, worst thing about fall of Soviet Union is end of support for world revolutions and socialist states like Angola,Cuba and many others

Jacobin does suck, but it's not entirely their fault. Americans are so brainwashed and uninformed about world affairs that they can't be honest about their views. They tried, but as usual, liberals turned it into another feelings circlejerk.

When and how did this happen?

oops, i was wrong. he has stated that he's "almost a Leninist".

I think end of example social oriented economy and it achievements even worsen.

That and the terrible fall in life expectancy in the former Soviet Union, which in practice involved under reported mass death.

Ethnic conflicts and pogroms resulting in deaths of hundreds of thousands.

Destruction of internationalist and socialist mindset and rise of crapitalist nationalist mindset.

Destruction of industry and science and converting Russia into gas station.


And many more

I'm actually interested to know from any Belgium anons about how their Marxist party has managed to weather the storm of the 90s with not just not collapsing but continuing to grow?

I can't read comments can I get some excerpts?

Everyone here knows that those are bourgeois media, but there are those among us who don't realize the same is true of Jacobin.

Ja.cobin is for red liberals

the interview on jácobin literally explains this. funny enough, the party did the OPPOSITE of what most leftists want to do today:

We were active in the universities and the youth movement to mobilize against the fascists. But the big lesson we took from the 1980s and 1990s was that, as well as mobilizing against such groups, we also have to talk to the voters for far-right parties, who are expressing their own anger and disillusionment. We have to work to offer an alternative: for while we do have to combat fascism, we cannot define ourselves only in negative terms.

gee it's like free speech is a good thing for the left

Well yeah communicating leftist ideas to the masses is a good thing, especially when we are able to silence fascists who would otherwise mislead them.

we shouldn't need to silence fascists though. all of their ideas are refutable if you aren't a liberal.

it depends what you mean by fascist

lol you are the liberal here. Fascists don't argue in good faith. They don't care if they are "refuted" because it literally does not matter to them nor does it help prevent them from recruiting people. They enjoy spreading lies and despair among the proles because their goal is solely to prevent communism. They think of nothing else and will do whatever it takes to protect capital. They are more like demons than people.

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this is literally anyone who puts more emotion than intellect into their beliefs

I've been involved with the PVDA-PTB for about 8 months, feel free to ask any other questions you may have.
Until about 10 years ago we used to be a fairly sectarian and ineffective party. After the collapse of the Soviet bloc we initially went down this sectarian road even further (for instance our founder Ludo Martens wrote a book on the accomplishments of Stalin in a desperate attempt to rehabilitate the public image of the USSR, which he then distributed within the trade unions). The fact that the party has recently managed not only to recover but also to grow bigger than ever before, is due to the gradual dismantling of these sectarian tendencies, a process that has been ongoing since the 2008 party congress. The party has updated its rhetoric and aesthetics, started being much more aware of politically relevant struggles and tries to broaden its working class/trade union presence as much as possible. The party leaders would never openly defend Stalin, Lenin or the 20th-century socialist experiments anymore, although they do still defend Cuba since it's still relevant to the politics of nowadays, and also critically sided with Venezuela against US imperialism. I would say the PVDA is doing a good job in avoiding not only the kind of sectarianism that is still omnipresent in many European communist parties but also the denunciation of Marxism and turn towards social democracy (or watered-down 'democratic socialism', as occurred for example to the Dutch SP) or towards identitarian leftism. IMO that explains its success.
Also, as explained in the article, the party has shifted from only accepting "full-fledged" Marxists to also accepting people who aren't ideologically shaped yet and educating them on Marxist theory:

I agree with that they don't argue in good faith in general, but we've done so much research since the 1930s and 40s that all of the natural laws they rely on to operate as an ideology can be debunked. this wasn't the case back then.
the real issue is that people are still being educated like they were back in the 30s and 40s, all that's changed since then is the history books.

what do the captions say I cant read russion

such as?
Are you going with the liberal argument that human action is 100% environmental?

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still doesn't explain why sub Sahara africans never amounted to anything prior to europeans contacting them

It sounds like you've done a lot of research. Do you mind sharing some of your sources?

Fascism doesn't stem from ignorance. It's a petit bourg movement that manifests in times of instability in capitalist countries. It has no set ideology except "capitalism (the status quo) good, communism bad." They will believe anything (racialism, aryan mythologies, etc) as long as it justifies the continued existence of the status quo and the elimination of all movements and peoples that oppose them. The only way to stop fascism is to first limit its spread (by deplatforming) and then exterminating the infected.

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the transition from a Paleolithic society into a Slave society is anomalous. this transition drastically affects property relations, general wealth and reproduction rates which decide intelligence. basically once inheritance develops as an ideology then you can start producing high Autism Level individuals, and ideology is generally anomalous.

that goes back to what the other user says in which it depends on what you mean by Fascism.
rampant policy-conducting racism and sexism are what I’m talking about here. In terms of the abstract Frankfurt School Fascism we are already living under it, but Nazism will never come back if we keep people educated.

(cont.)
ie anti-egalitarianism will never come back under actual free speech.
I think we should be able to convince everyone of an egalitarian (equal opportunity) society in the 21st century. the only disagreement should be what that entails

Hay newsanon here.
While Ja-cobin can have shit takes it does not mean it should have a wordfilter on it. If we did that for any news site that had shit takes then most news links would be broken. As well being the person who has to read the news and op-eds before posting them i make sure to take into consideration the taste of Lefty&leftpol, and make sure that i'm not just posting red-liberal takes from any places that brand themselves lefty journalism or opinion sites.

As well i would like the BO to consider and understand that i take time out of a pretty hectic schedule to do this and something similar on facebook. I do this because it is fun and i get fulfillment from doing this. It is not fun or fulfilling to see work done messed up by a person who makes wordfilters based on his opinion and not group consensus.

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Autism level is the only good one, everything else is just divisive splitter shit.

don't you know only the neo-stalinist news network is acceptable?

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How does it suck? I mean you can complain not every article agrees with your unique tendency but surely we can agree the general trend is towards good and intelligent socialist content.

The man kicked out is Solzhenitsyn. On that papers is written, "lies, provocation, falsification, treachery, etc."
Behind the table sits Judas, Brutus, Cassius, Cain, Azef and Gapon.

I emphasized first part

To answer how it sucks? It sacrifices principles to go mainstream and ponders to libdards

Sassenach is also good

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Bad aura.

On the other hand, Jacobin does deserve some respect, and perhaps their crappy side is mix of maskyrovka and brainwashing. Reading comments on some their articles it seems that burgers are completely unaware of their imperialist history. There are so many retards commenting about Venezuela and how us is rich thanks to crapitalism and how poor former colonies are poor because of socialism.

For example
jakkkobinmag.com/2017/03/food-production-hunger-waste-agriculture-commodity-capitalism?fbclid=IwAR3YD5C-6Dea2AA4SuSQLjZf3xB3dZUmIqEPOpsra5_XXgrbJ6MKIOPZvSQ

is pretty good article with stupid vuvuzuela comments. I do believe that this wordfilter should be canceled. For News user.

We should not blame any publication for their commenters. If we did that, we would have to conclude that RT is a neonazi publication for example.

But how else will Body Oder get his epic dunks in

Well you can't blame Jacobin for its commenters. You can blame them for the image in the OP.

Daily Mail and I think it was Fox News have better-than-youtube-and-twitter comment sections irrc, or at least did for a brief period of time, I think because liberals hate-read them and because they report on some stories that liberal outlets don't.
Guardian and Breitbart on the other hand are complete garbage, although in different ways.

Newfag here, what is that one supposed to be?

eye queue filters to Autism Level