Mama Merkel admitted it. The migration compact will be binding after the vote in the UN.
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It's at the very end don't miss it.
Translation is correct and even left leaning Swiss media aceppt it (German text)
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Here is the Global compact for migration
Read it. Interesting is also the part on media on page 24. Especially d) tldr: media must be positive otherwise no public funding
Comrade Merkel doing the international proletariat a solid on the way out
Okay…?
This might be the motivation for such things
Look at what Greenspan former head of fed said
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Tldr insecure workers don't demand shit. Import traumatised people from all over and make the journey as hard as can be (slave trade/prisons in lybia) and you have people who well be grateful for anything
Merkel and co. are determined to keep on performing Alt-Right propaganda of the deed to the very end I see.
Can you people only think in black and white?
Refugees good
Merkel right so bad
Merkel is very much on the right, she's a neoliberal. what is so wrong with understanding that as bad?
Most people really don't care about migrants that much, besides most of the time o open borders doesn't even mean what you autists think it means.
Neoliberal is the status quo. It's What the West is so it is somewhere inbthe middle isn't it?
What does this even mean, mate? c'mon…
If it doesn't mean anything, then don't open the fucking borders for all of africa. Anyway you'll find out soon enough that most people don't want this, when it starts to hit their bottom line, like it has already done in France. All these welfare niggers aren't free.
Hard time reading? Should I dance for you? It means the right sees her as left the left sees her as right. You should leave your echo chambers once in a while
When you hear the phrase 'open borders' it more often than not relates to change and not necessarily people. You could close the borders to migration and it really would make very little difference to the neoliberal status quo. Does pol have anything except 'immigrants hurt my feelzzzz T.T' as arguments? this really is dire.
Nobody thinks this except idiot burgers and the far far right who think anyone that isn't mussolini is on the left. Who cares what some fucking dickhead nutters think?
How the right or left sees her is irrelevant to what policies she pursues or what her ideology is. She's a neoliberal and that makes her a creature of the right.
Start thinking with your head instead of your Hart. It's not about hating foreigners. I have nothing against anyone i dont know personally. We are all human. But, Look at what Greenspan said it's in the op.
From where you stand yes. She is right of where i am too. She obviously is somewhere inbthe middle if you ask a average German. The old cdu/csu would hardly have opened the borders because some refugees waited in Austria…
Sorry not in the op a few posts down
Why not? They are servants of capital, secone only to the fdp. Increasing labour supply fosters competition and lowers labour costs for capitalists, which increases their profits. The Arbeitgeberverbände appauded the liberal immigration policies.
Becaise their voter base would have collapsed…. oh wait
literally that "I don't hate you because you're gay/black/insert_minority, I hate you because you're poor" quote
This meme needs to die.
Are you stupid? I don't hate migrants. If I would live in some shithole I would want to emigrate too. But I accept that a country has to look to it's citizens first. And I believe that the welfare of a country has to do whit the people inhabiting it. It is logical that if you open boarders there will be similar standards of living all over the world.
Dude. How many europeans do you know that think Merkel is honestly on the left? Are you german?
Do you guys not realize the common worker is the one who gets a bad deal from immigration/globalization? Millionaires in gated communities don't suffer from more pressure on the labour market or immigration of criminals. I think you guys mostly are too sheltered. You can't see that criminals are incentivised to change countries before they go to jail. You can't see that with much migration wages go down it's simple supply and demand
Globalization doesn't mean what you think it means, kiddo.
Enlighten me then wise man
When we're talking about globalization we're usually referring to neo-liberalism, essentially. Not this 'muh ebil muslim migrants. muh NWO. muh joos.' This shit is born out of the inherent retardation of the right and seems to be devoid of all meaning past 'things i don't like.'As i stated above, the neo-liberal project of opening borders isn't really about migrants, it is about opening the borders to free trade in order to offshore profits, privatize everything, etc. etc.
Seems to me you exclude the people part because it conflicts with your ideology. Neoliberalism started when? Migration to eu, us started when? Switzerland grew 2 mil in the last 30 years for example at the same time repruduction rates are below 2.1 so it should shrink….
No mate, i'm just explaining to you what people usually mean when they use words. I have no idea what you think that has to do with ' your ideology'. Whatever you think that is.
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This shit is pure misdirection. begone neo-lib shill.>Neoliberalism started when? Migration to e
You seem to be new to reading so ill try to keep it simple. Neoliberalism wants migration because it keeps wages low. Look at some charts for once. Go check for yourselves. Why you think every neolib politician is pro migration? Every big Corp?
it's only logical if you accept your dumbfuck theory
What dumbfuck theory? People as in persons having to do with the welfare of a country? What is it then? The weather?
Just admit you're a newfag. We've discussed this topic many times already.
Ad hominem. Good argument!
Man thought the guys on pol were stupid but you guys are stupid and lazy because you just assume since you are more empathetic and loving you are right. Think for once people it's not that hard and it gets easyer with time
kek
Yeah we did and people like him were usually in the majority. Fuck off back to reddit epic 2017 oldfag.
Not him, but you put way more importance on immigration than is warranted. National borders to labour and capital is just "social democracy", like minimum wage, worker/consumer protection, welfare, healthcare etc. They just make capitalism more friendly which was necessary during USSR time to prevent a socialist revolution in capitalist countries. However socdem shit is a burden to capitalists and is being eroded now that it is not necessary anymore and the capitalists need/want more profit. You are not getting it back.
Their material conditions, idealist-kun.
That's for unsourced haploshit and autism point maps you fucking retard, not actual economic graphs.
It makes such a little difference. Do you think neoliberals would care if they had to close the borders to migrants? No, people like you are 100% not interested in actually ending neoliberalism, you just want another argument to go on your anti migrant shit. This shit is nothing but scaremongering.
What do you even mean by this?
So what you're saying is that your point isn't about anything leftist, but you're just acting in opposition to racists?
Are you retarded mate? the point is to be against neoliberalism/globalization. Not to claim to be against them simply in order to use your so called stance to bang on about brown people.
Wrong board Zig Forums. Only reactionaries are screeching about this non-binding pact that basically intends to protect human rights.
So the free movement of capital, goods and services are neoliberalism/globalization, but the free movement of people under neoliberalism is not because those people are brown?
Correlation graphs funded by the heritage foundations are the same abuse of statistics, fuckface.
Nowhere in those charts is a causative relationship demonstrated, and at least one is funded by an organization explicitly interested in demonizing migrants and refugees.
Mate. what i object to is you pretending to be against globalization when in reality you're just against foreigners. Is this really so hard for your simpleton brain?
i got fucking banned! for pointing out a ad hominem! WTF!
Material conditions? still a marxist? hwo do you explain switzerland, lichtenstein, even the us or uk? why do material conditions change as in china? explain the difference between germany and poland. Idont put too much emphasis on migration but its whats disscussed here. i dont say its just taht but it certanly is also lthat.
another point id like to make is how the compact came to be. Forget what it says.
where i live every! news story emphazised that it will be non binding now it will be. great democracy we live under.
thats a cheap strawman you cant prove
watch the video until the end before parroting stupid propaganda
the causation is what i imply. it surely is not just that but just look at how it correlates. make up your own mind i dont do sinece here this is a disscussion
Cum hoc ergo propter hoc you illiterate bad faith Nazi fuck
Go back to nu-atheist youtube videos you fucking burger. Literally nobody cares about your hurt feelings.
Europe won't survive without immigration, the people in Europe who don't want to work will be replaced and the new Europeans will be grateful for anything they receive.
It's simply a numbers game, Europe has failed, look at the population size - 300 million. Africa is thriving with around 1,000 million, india with 1,200 million and China with almost 2,000 million.
Those are successful, and the successful will soon make use of the land that Europe has squandered.
man why do you guys get so emotional as soon as your ideologies get questioned? i came here to discuss maybe to get a good counter argument was the only one who even tried all you other guys just said i am a bad person or dumb. eather i cant disprove.
leave reddit idiot
Rightists always love their (social) darwinism, now they get it :^)
are africans fleeing africa because they got tired of winning?
I gave you your logical fallacy and showed you how you can't read a fucking chart just like all your retard friends, what else do you want? A fucking gold star? Get off my board with this dumb shit.
Not at all, they are expanding to win the game of evolution in the rest of the world as well. Most Offspring = Brest Adapted.
where did i say one causes the other? i said both happened simultaniusly and maybe there is a common causation or maybe one has to do with the other. you just dont wont to think about it because it hurts your feelings. is what i think
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Those migrants can't survive without welfare and other social benefits. If they aren't kicked out of each country eventually, the economic collapse of the country will cause them either to leave or go full on zombie mode.
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With literally no evidence, because you don't understand how to read a simple graph and use basic reasoning
You're the one appealing from emotion, and you're misrepresenting data that doesn't say what you seem to think it does to do so. Either that or you know exactly what it says and you're posting it to try and fool other people who can't read graphs as a bad faith propaganda campaign.
kay. So why isn't that what happened with every other wave of migrants?
no. and read up opn evolution its not about "good adapting" its more like the ones who have a niche survive by chance and then have more offspring. and how much offspring in africa would survive without "cultural appropriation" or humanitarian aid?
Plus, they are not adapted to the climate. Their evolutionary traits are not suited for extreme cold climates.
I am not impressed by this second graph. Also notice how it only starts at 1950, before the huge migrations round about WWII.
i gave some reasons for my hunch: neolibs and corps supporting migration. supply and demand. so why is it then?
Why does it always go back to video games with you faggots
Why do they have more offspring even there then? pol always posts these graphs howw the % of nonwhites will rapidly increase
because it is in their material interests nad they are inteeligent and well informed
unlike lumpen like you who support neoliberlism/neiconservatism which is against your material interests because you are not intelligent or well informed
man this here really is a mindfuck. im left/libertarian (-4-4 on the political compass) i once went to pol to see whats up. they really fucked all my arguments with info it was really hard to counter you guys seem to only have ideology. you are lazy because you think you are "on the right side of history" or some stupid trope. step your game up guys otherwise the right will rule the internet and thats not what i want and cant be what you want
This is purely idotic. birthrates are subject to change they tend to swing constantly. There are plenty of countries that have historically fallen beneath replacement level of 2.1 child per woman only to rise again above that rate. Besides declining population is a good thing generally since it tends to lead to less competition in jobs market and forces capitalists to give more concessions towards the workers.
samefag.
ad hominem agian? try to argue for once. I told you it is in their interest. and i said it is against the interest of the common worker wich i am not but wich i feel deserves my support. and no i dont suport any of the neos but by your argument you seem to
lol this place is not loving, it's filled with rage, except it's aimed at legitimate targets instead of random jewish shopkeeper or random muslim passer-by
and Zig Forums IS empathetic, but it's all empathy for pewdipie getting less views than some "pajeet" channel or a psycho murderer getting life in prison or some other similar cunt
you try it! tbh it wasnt pol itself but a pol linked discord server. after a few days they banned me because they said i am a jidf shill wich i had to look up. here i got banned after 10 min because i pointed out an ad hominem
He said left/libertarianism. He was probably claiming to be a libertarianism in the normal sense, not the yank sense.
Nobody cares about your silly internet 'man of logic' crybaby falacies. i really don't understand why you think they do. That shit doesn't work on anyone over the age of fucking 20. Fuck off back to youtube you absolute brainlet.
pls stop your levels of pathetic are reaching subcritical levels, you're nearing a meltdown
libertarian in opposition to authoritarian.
about ad homen its just a short way of saing stay on topic dont attak the man but the idea. its valid i think
Also how's this for a fallacy: cherrypicking responses and not responding to all the people itt who have destroyed you with logic and facts.
I can literally hear your nasal whining through the screen
i give my best to answer every argument deserving of an answer, post the ones i forgot
same shit here you cant argue the argument so you say im stupid. thats not an argument. i might be but then it should be easy for you to counter
Meh. My experience of people that spout this shit are retarded adult virgin youtube atheists(see: yanks that grew up with christian parents and never got over it.) that unironically believe that humans are rational actors governed by logic and reason. They are almost always copying there arguments 1 for 1 by retards on the right who obviously only ever pick the 'facts' that back there (always emotionally driven, of course) narrative. These people arn't new and it's clearly what this specimen is. Though i suspect that this one might just be larping one of these 'tards for laughs.
Case in point:
why would i lie and what would i gain by it? your approval? obviously im not out for that since i seem to argue agains a whole board. you could say am more nationalistic than the usual leftie but that does not get mesured by this compass
man you do the same shit over and over again. emply im some sore loser of life but with no word counter my argument. can you?
see
(replying with empty whining does not count ofc)
bye bye baboon
best post itt tbh
meh. My experience of people that spout tis shit are retarded adult babie from a well to be family who never had to argue because they only suround themselve with people who think the same as theys to. they are parroting there arguments from something some "friend" once said without even understanding it themselves. these people arent new and are the reason the left is dying. though is suspect this one might just be a bot
Nietzsche BTFO'd your Kantian shit over a hundred years ago. Why would i do anything but mock you and point out that you are an absoloute brainlet?
watch the wideo in the op. its right at the end. if you can read german read the article
lets say it starts at 1k and ends at 1500k
world population grew 1500x?
I already adressed the point about causation
wasnt directed at me. i dont think she is i think she is the status quo she is the middle the left thinks she is right the right she is left. thats why now there is an afd and schröder going right was the reason for die linke
I love it when a rightist tells me why the left is dying. Yes, you truly are concerned about the well being of my movement I am sure.
And seriously nigger capitalize, they don't charge you extra for the bigger letterers.
man why cant you people understand im not a rightist. not everyone who disagrees with you is a nazi. i am for boarders buit that might be my most rightwing view
and it is really funny how tribal you guys are. the right is a joke compared to you.
It starts at 100k, but don't let that ruin your day. And it randomly starts in 1950, even though it's obvious from the graph there are huge swings over the years - the most import one likely being WWII, which was conveniently left off the chart.
If only you were also for basic proficiency at spelling.
Agreed.