"If you're good enough it's free"
I don't understand "leftists" who support prostitution
Evan Walker
Luke Bell
God I can not imagine how you found this out.
This sort of talk is obfuscating. Yes, we all LOVE the liberal idea of free exchange. A sexy, smart, independent woman and a great, caring, yet busy man meet to engage in hot, passionate sex. Afterwards, the mans pays the woman a fair, respectable amount of money for her great work.
This is a great idea. It brings a tear to my eye and a chub to my pants. It is, however, just an idea.
In reality, these exchanges will be facilitated via an exploitative business environment. Women will be paid the lowest amount humanly possible for their sex, and it will be LOW. For one, in current societies, these idealized women can mostly make money through rent seeking. They are the only combination of a certain set of features that exists, and they can leverage that. Furthermore, they are a fairly rare subset of people performing sexual services, so they can leverage that as well. This is how instagram thots make momey, for example. Legal prostituion will blow this out of the water. The sheer amount of women that will be prostitutes will cause competion that will drive the rates of their wages down. The cost of recreating their labour WILL be reached, and it will be found to be basically nothing because men find LOTS of women attractive. Furthermore, it takes really nothing to be attractive. Women like to be attractive. (So do men.) All you have to have to he a prostitute is A.) Be a woman and B.) Be young.
I want to note the youngness here, because that is a huge part of it. Gone will the days be of being waitress to pay for your student loans. You are fresh out of highschool, and you are in that prime state that many men find highly arousing. These men will pay, and, again, as it takes absolutely no ability to turn 18, they will not have to pay much. There will be very little to drive the wages of prostitutes, and they will be 18-30 year old women (and men but I've left them out) who are paid minimum wage.
Not to mentiom the incredibly, incredibly coercive conditions these women will inevitably work in. To ensure the extraction of profits, these women will HAVE to have sex. They will not be choosing the men they are having sex with, at least not as as group.
We can currently imagine these prostitutes as having choice with who they have sex with. The supply of men to have sex with isn't that large, so thusly the amount of women who would have to be prositutes to have sex with them wouldn't have to be that large. (The exploitation that arises from failing to meet, exceeding this balance, and meeting it is gross already.)
But, with legalization, the number of men looking for sex would increase. If a woman gets choosy, the unchosen men will go to a woman who is not. If a woman is not working, the men will go to the woman who is. This will, as it has in EVERY mass market production, lead to the inevitable soulless, uniform exploitation of meeting demands. As the sex "industry" expands, competition will increase. Everyone will be working to get the most value out of their capital. To put this in exact terms, these sex Capitalists will be doing everything they can to make these women have the most sex for the lowest prices. The value of these women's time will be spread through as many men as humanly possible. The Capitalists who fail to do this will be pushed out of business. It will be interesting to see what will be the assembly line of the sex industry.
I am done now, post got to long.
Here is the long and short of it.
Legalizing prostitution is bad.
Charles Bailey
Have you considered the fact that some people actually like sex and under some circumstances that prostitution would be volunteery?
And if we legalized prostitution it would cut down on the harm, disease, and exploitation the women incur?
Looking at your little flag, it seems you are a christ cuck.
Sex is an affirmation of life, it is the natural instinct of humanity. To think of it is a sin or depraved is to be against life. And this has been the story of the christian west, from the more religious days to the modern secular days. Western peoples of all stripes, left, right, rich, poor. They despise sex, they despise life. Even the non religious or anti religious carry this cultural vein. (TERFS) To them it is a sin. And in Christianity sin must be overcome in order to receive reward in the after life. A wager that makes a million promises for something that doesnt exist.
In conclusion.
Colton Sullivan
Hoes are for capitalist scum
The true path to socialism lies in swingers
Jordan Morales
Not even most prostitutes are women you retard. Between male prostitutes and sex-trafficked children? Nigga please. You're just a dumb cunt liberal who doesn't know dick about the world trying to moralize people. You're in the same company as puritans burning witches. I don't even disagree that sex work is mostly degrading and coerced but your ideological basis for critiquing it is so disgustingly myopic and divorced from reality that that alone makes you a danger to any presumptively scientific socialism since you so readily adopt a quasi-religious view of important social topics. I might have some respect for anti-sex-worker lefties if you had some epistemological standards at fucking all or if, you know, you made meaningful distinction between involuntary sex work (rape) and people who like fucking and are good at it so want to make a career out of performance.
But nah, you're just repeating shit that some cunt reactionary beat into your head as a kid or whatever because you're too much of a shit coward to genuinely examine your beliefs and admit that you were wrong about something re: gender politics. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on you stupid bitch.
Isaiah Carter
Carter Ortiz
That's a massively false equivalence. The ending of child labor did not bring an end to a specific type of labor: it merely altered who was performing the work in accordance to the material conditions of the time, moving away from the pre-industrial standard of children working alongside or otherwise supplementing the income (or it's equivalent in places where money as we know it now was not the universal medium of exchange and compensation) and maintenance of he family.
Sex work, if archaeological evidence is to be believed, has existed since before the emergence of class society as we would recognize it today; before money or generalized commodity production. It will likely persist in some form or another beyond those things as well in spite of your idealistic moralizing. Again, the goal should be to remove the systems that work to exploit the work being done, not the work itself to the detriment of those who engage in it.
Henry Adams
weird argument but ok
Caleb Jones
Kevin Thompson
There are three types of prostitutes
The solutions are to legalize prostitution and create safe (for a lack of a better word) organizations for less intelligent prostitutes. And hunt down the slave traders.