How intelligent do you have to be to understand Xi Jinping thought?

I was talking to my Marxist-Leninist friend, and he said that all Marxists should support the People's Republic of China. He says that china only practices capitalism to develop by leeching money off the developed world, and that capitalism only happens inside a select few areas of the country. Furthermore, he says that the CCP has long-term plans to replace capitalism with socialism, that Socialism with Chinese Characteristics is basically a new NEP and that once the USA is out of the picture China will lead the world to socialism. Supporting the PRC is also third-worldist as they are an export economy that does not make money from imperialism like the USA does.

I somewhat understand, but I feel like I am too unintelligent to fully grasp what he's saying. Could somebody help me here? I want to be able to fully understand Xi Jinping and Deng Xiaoping thought here.

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COMMUNISM BY 2050!
THE RED SUN RISES IN THE EAST!
Basically what he's saying is to put faith in china because they're run by a communist party. Mega-NEP so to speak

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GUCCI GANG GUCCI GANG GUCCI GANG GUCCI GANG

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Do you chicom shills think we are stupid?

China needs to dance like a monkey and do something communist for us before we become brainwashed shills

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He doesn't know what he is talking about. Capitalism has been rolled out all over the country, not just in a few select cities. The share of private capital vs state owner capital Continues to grow every year and government officials often are heavily involved either directly or indirectly in private capital projects, trilingual up massive profits and capital for themselves and their friends/family.

You don't get the fastest growing amount of millionaires by having 6ish cities to produce in. Places like xiamen aren't big geographically, I've lived there.

Anyone who believes "socialism soon I promise but first lots of worker exploitation and private capital accumulation" is a fucking retard. Any hope for chinese communism died with Mao.

it would be a lot more believable if they at the very least pushed for universal healthcare, free tuition, etc. (with actual concrete plans, not platitudes like "socialist with chinese characteristic reconstruction by 2030") which social democracies, soviet union (when it existed), cuba and north korea take for granted

Doesn't seem particularly socialist to me, but more "socialist" in a strong-state / political authority sense and done in more of a way to administer a really big and complicated country that pretty much no one in the West a few decades ago thought would hold together. More of a continent than a country, really. It's plausible to imagine that had the Communist Party not come to power and united the joint, then China would have ended up like Subsaharan Africa today or something like that, with several countries instead of one country [or… erm… two countries… shit I mean one country two systems!] each aligned with an assortment of Western governments and various foreign industries. Can't say I blame them.

Anyways, I don't really think it matters what we think because Chinese cultural acceptance of foreign criticism of any kind is practically zero. All that Westerners really accomplish by shitting on them is making the Chinese feel that we're antagonistic to them even more, which doesn't help anybody.

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To be fair you have to have a very high Autism Level to understand risk labour.

We all know how well that's gonna work out :^)

What are you some kind of imperialist

It’s not really that hard to understand

They have a very acute understanding about the need for further development and how far behind they still are from reaching the level of say, scandinavian countries, etc.

tldr: these things, they take time

Also keep in mind, China's political center of power is not a single entity, but one with multiple factions, some obviously more liberal/capitalist due to their introduction post opening up of China

I heard a comment once that China's commitment to Marxism is like America's commitment to its Founding Fathers. Which is to say that America is a long way from being an agrarian, Jeffersonian republic. But the core of that stuff is still in there, and it's interesting traveling as an American because – while foreigners don't exactly roll out the red carpet – you will encounter some random Ethiopian or someone like that who wants to talk about Alexander Hamilton.

I'm kinda taking this Whiggish view of America as on the journey to "live up to" its ideals, which you'll hear a lot from politicians, but how do you explain the U.S. Civil War? That was 84 years after the formation of the republic and I liken it to a second bourgeois revolution. Well the PRC is approaching its 70th anniversary in 2019.

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really…

What is even Communism? to quote Engels,

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What's worth in all these things that the Soviet Union has implemented, if now a Russian worker is in significantly worse state all-round, despite China being leagues behind Russia for the most of industrial age?

Russia is France of Socialism, China is England of Socialism.

by your definition trade unions are communism.

Marx and Engels' definition, as quoted above.

Communism has many meanings, and this is the political meaning. Trade unions are, obviously, most fundamental element of Communist politics.

trade unions? more like traitors unions

literally yes, you classcuck

What is socialism and what is Marxism? We were not quite clear about this in the past. Marxism attaches utmost importance to developing the productive forces. We have said that socialism is the primary stage of communism and that at the advanced stage the principle of from each according to his ability and to each according to his needs will be applied. This calls for highly developed productive forces and an overwhelming abundance of material wealth. Therefore, the fundamental task for the socialist stage is to develop the productive forces. The superiority of the socialist system is demonstrated, in the final analysis, by faster and greater development of those forces than under the capitalist system. As they develop, the people's material and cultural life will constantly improve. One of our shortcomings after the founding of the People's Republic was that we didn't pay enough attention to developing the productive forces. Socialism means eliminating poverty. Poverty is not socialism, still less communism.

— Deng Xiaoping, speech discussing Marxist theory at a Central Committee plenum, 30 June 1984

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Deng's criticisms of China were correct. his methods of addressing them, however, were not.

Sounds a hell of a lot like
which is bullshit.

They are giving it the old college try, no need for all this negativity.

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not even a china shill but that's retarded

should be a chinese sickle
polite sage

the only one shitty and retarded is you

Ah, the glorious global gulag! Hail Marx! Peace be upon him!

Okay, this is epic.

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There is nothing that China is doing that is necessarily anti-Marxist or a revision of Leninism
The only reasons that the USSR didn't follow a similar model of development was the uncooperative nature of the Soviet national Bougie class and the ending of he NEP by stalin

Lol fuck no

Deng sounds like a silicon valley leftoid

Living standards have gone from most of the people living in mud huts, to coastal China being roughly on par with the west in terms of development. While the median income of Chinese workers has increased by over an order of magnitude.

They are. The industrial base however doesn't exist to support it.
That's part of the what the Made in China 2025 agenda is about; it would allow China to satisfy domestic demand for both pharmaceuticals and medical tech. As expected, western countries (in particular the US) are trying to stop this.
If you would actually look at what they're doing rather than what they're saying in a few odd speeches you'd have known this.


They're not wrong. As long as scarcity exists and people are unable to meet their own needs, the reproduction of commodity production, class society and capital accumulation will continue to persist.
It's why the emergence of class society coincides with the move from hunter-gatherer societies to urban-agricultural civilization. Under primitive abundance, there exists no necessity for selling your (labor-)power to make ends meet.

t. Deng gang

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All the landmark programs of China advance workers' interest. Taxes are very good example: while Trump passed tax cuts for billionaires, China extended tax exemption for and cut taxes for low-earners - which indicates that Chinese government isn't controlled by Capital as American one as of yet.

In China millennials are boomers

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You're two king out of your ass mate. I lived in special economic zone xiamen and it's still a fucking shithole for the avarage person.

Why.could the ussr develop its productive forces on its own but china needed to resort to abolishing socialism? It can be done, it's just better for the billionaire rulers to privitise the economy to themselves.

The CCP hasnt abolished its goal of ACHIEVING Socialism it has simply chosen to take a more unorthodox route in the pursuit of attaining it
Even Under Mao China did have some Market elements and somewhat welcomed foreign investment this was simply undercut by Mao's Disastrous policies
But after the Worst of Mao's Policies were done away with and with some reforms being attempted to reflect china's circumstances the standard of living for the proletariat exploded

Also your argument is solely anecdotal

You definitely don't need a domestic pharmaceutical and medical tech industries to have universal healthcare. Or are you trying to tell me that Cuba's industrial base is more advanced than China's?

Its my anecdote vs your unsourced dubious claim

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China is developing fully automated luxury space communism and then they will export it to the rest of the world.