Opinion on the roman empire?

What's your opinion on the roman empire Zig Forums? Personally I think it was pretty good and much more advanced than the societies that came after it.

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It's collapse was regrettable but inevitable.
As with many things in human history, the fall of rome set us back but the wheel of history will keep turning.
Ceasar should have never been assassinated

it's the Gracchus brothers that were actually going to save Rome (both were assassinated)

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the fall of rome is a signal of the absolute state of humanity at the time.

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It was a shithole.

it was better than most places after it even until the modern era

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Rome was pretty based for its time, I won't let far-rightists who admire its "fascism" ruin it for me.

Probably roughly accurate, mostly bc of the political stability it had for so many centuries which was really nice. However Rome & Greece have an unfair advantage in that scholars and popular media have tended to focus all on the life and accomplishments occurring in the cities of the Mediterranean (not that I'm implying there wasn't widespread poverty in the cities of Rome too) whereas when people hear "Medieval" the first that that is conjured besides Knights and Castles is starving peasants. When in truth the situation wasn't too terribly different at all.

Egypt should have ruled Rome. Marcantonivs did nothing wrong.

This. OG champagne socialists

thats a problem with big cities that transcends time

Why didn't feudalism work? I don't get how it failed

the invention of commodity production strengthened the merchant class which tricked the lower classes into over throwing the monarchies

The Goths did nothing wrong

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Slave owning pagan hellhole that produced almost no real scientific or artistic achievements except some cool buildings.

they were literal plebeians

Yeah gotta agree the place did nothing much or humanity scientifically speaking

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lots of Roman paintings have disintegrated. same with math and science. it's hard to know exactly how advanced they were.

Then arrived the nicean cult and destroyed everything that was good.
Also roman art is beautiful.

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I see, liberation is the french ben garrison.

Shut the fuck up christscum, Romans literally invented the first steam engine and advanced the dialectic of history. Free grain and water were provided to it's citizens along with public health and games, glass blowing was almost certainly tied to the Romans in Syria and it's governmental centralization and large scale aqueducts,dams,bridges,roads and forts were a marvel of social/economical and political genius. In-fact the free men of Ancient Rome were almost certainly better off then free feudal men even the lower classes could join the army and be rewarded with a farm and land unlike christian peasantry. All of this with it's law system that you probably still feel the effects of today. And unlike Medieval serfs many Roman slaves actually had a chance to become freemen see Pompeii which had a large ex slave population and slaves even had some form of rights unlike Christian slavery and Russian serfdom. You could travel from Northern England all the way into Egypt or Syria and if you don't see how that along with a developing bureaucracy and merchant class allows for the advancement of dialectics you must be a disgusting religious cuck who the Romans should of actually put their backs into killing. The collapse of Rome was a set back for society and only until the Muslims cucked the epic Christians out of trade routes and refugees (see Romans) fleeing Constantinople helped start the renaissance did society look better.

Have an Ancient Roman shitpost pic related.
"Alexamenos worships [his] God"

Bet you're a fucking disgusting smelly German.

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This. Literally the only thing they did wrong was dying.

Persian Empire was better tbh.

You can't beat the Qin Empire tho.

shit. lasted a millenia and didn't contribute to anything good

Super interesting topic. It always blows my mind how such massive and powerful empires can collapse. I mean humanity literally went into the dark ages right after it mostly collapsed.

thought they were Zig Forums's? now Zig Forums is claiming it?

Weren't the dark ages exaggerated to make the enlightment ages look better?

A truly based and Marx-pilled post. Reminder that he read the Aenid every single year like a true Romeboo autist and had a classical education.

Lmao. The Greek neoplatonists invented the steam engine. And.everything else that Rome used. I guess Romans were better engineers, but thats it.

They brought their own demise with constant civil wars. So then even some barbarian illiterates were able to make fun of the weakling late Romans

Somewhat. Early feudalism already started in late Roman empire, when the free Romans, tending to their fsrms, were being more and more in debt. Then the rich landownerd started buying even more land and at first the free but small ownerd becsme wage laborers on their former farms.and later they became serfs to the local feudal lords (when the central government collapsed). Read rise of Western christendom.by Peter Brown.

I hope Neptune drowns us all.

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He was either a Greek or a Hellenized Egyptian but under the Roman Empire which pretty much still makes it a Roman invention since the Romans were sort of okay with Greeks (More then Gauls anyway) and places where Romans took over slowly over time collected more Roman influence.

they were stupid fascists, good thing they died. I hope anything remotely to rome will get destroyed in the coming future, their writing system, their architecture and their written records. They had it coming, even the languages like italian, french or spanish should be wiped out. I shit on any marble statue, on any report, on any recorded piece of history on any stone tablet and nothing can stop me you fucking fascists.

nothing can beat aryan tribes spreading around the world and building the ancient world as we know it
In the case of india in they brought the culture that exist to this day
Hitites becoming with egypt the superpower of the bronze age ,were the one who developed iron metalurgy
Afadanievo and tocharians were the ones who spread metalurgy, chariots , horses, apiculture…that would china let start their first civilization
Scythians becoming the kings of the steppe teaching finno ugrics and mongols the way of life of the steppe
In the new kingdom time in egypt all pharaoh are redhead r1b is the moment of maximun expansion and prosperity in the history of egypt
Dorians invasions was the ones who brought greek language and is the moment of the start of tje greek golden age
Romans were the only latin ( indo european ) tribe in north cwntral italy they conquered all their neighbour to built one of the most powerfull empires of history
Iran foundation and posterior spread all around the middle easr due to another aryan tribe sintashta

The only ones we are not sure are sumerians but looking at their blye eyes statues, swastikas in their ceremonial bowl , h5 european mrd dna in the female samples everything point to be a mix of eastern hunter gatherers that descended from the steppe and mixed with iranian farmers

Aryans literally built the ancient world

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Threads about Rome are the equivalent of a bunch of illegitimate children arguing that their daddy is actually Mick Jagger while claiming his confirmed children aren't actually his.

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Before someboy comes around
Nazi abused the aryan theory too, aryans are the super humans but they werent the ones the nazis defined as the aryan, you get what i say, most didnt even have blonde hair

Pretty sure those ones in the Americas/Africa and South east Asia are based on stars rather then conquest since the Aryans were mostly confined to Europe the middle-east and India for their expansions.

There is nothing wrong with liking your daddy called Rome.

All swastikas are based on stars

wtf I love the nazis now

the mayority of indo europeans tribes havd blonde or red
and theones with highest aryan admixture are the more blonde too

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biggus dickus

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I was arguing because the talk of the Aryans and with that image posted it gave me the impression someone was arguing for the idea they took over the entire world which is obviously wrong and I could see some dumbasses especially Nazi dumbases thinking they did

missed my quote

Well they were fathers of the celts and ‘nordids’. There is a difference between modern nordids and nordids of old. Compared to old nordids, modern Scandinavians look like meth addicts without any cheekbones and chiseled jaws.

pls make a new version without inaccurate hollywood/renaissance interpretation of armor and clothing.

no those are ancestral north eurasians (protoaryans)that mixed with paleoasians .
amerindians are 30% ancestral north eurasians like some europeans are too

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the phoenicians, or should I rather say ‘carthagenians’ had it coming

The cross broke the fasces. It's like pottery.

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Discussion about Rome just tells me one thing:
Zig Forums and Zig Forums are the same, both are revolting against the modern world

what does that mean

Zig Forums advances the modern world to it's next stage away from Capitalism and liberalism. Zig Forums pretends it wants to go two steps back then forward but stupidly dosn't realize it's just perpetually keeping the modern world and they don't into dialectical materialism so they don't realize the futility of their efforts in opposing capitalistic society but still using Capitalism. And yes Fascists are capitalists just because no Jews and no gays doesn't stop it being capitalistic in practice.

Didn't make it. The image is from threads in which different Zig Forumsyps would claim Italians, especially southern Italians, were not white and that by some loop-de-loop logic the Nazi's, and by extension the Germans, were the true inheritors of Rome because the Romans were actually Aryans. Italians would usually counter correctly by saying the Nazi's had no culture, that they were simply larping as Romans, and that their ancestors at the time of the Romans were barbarian tribes who lived in huts and smashed rocks together. Then the thread would usually devolve into "Who's white, who isn't" arguments. Which just goes to show you how concrete the definition actually is.

good old eternal kraut

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There are literally countries right now on the globe that aren't even considered Third World that have a lower standard for the working class than Rome during its peak. I've been in Morocco for a few months and on the countryside or small towns, most of the times you have squat toilets without running water, no existing sewer system and the such.

The barbarians won because the were arian and the romans catholic, prove me wrong.

It was a brutal slave society but managed to unite Europe under one flag.