WE DID IT, Zig Forums!
CAPITALISM COMPLETELY AND UNDENIABLY BTFO
WE DID IT, Zig Forums!
Asher Hill
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Blake Wright
liberals are such melodramatic twats
On the other hand, time might prove he's technically right, although not in the way he thinks—since the defeat of the USSR, the West's acceleration of neoliberal policies (through "free trade" agreements and other labor flexibility measures, declining wages and switching most jobs to temp work, among other schemes) have led to a collapse in ideological support for capitalism among the youth that may have ramifications for the system in the long term.
Or maybe not. As Sniffman says, I'll see you in hell or in communism.
Anthony Ross
Why do Americans treat Russia like the USSR still exists?
Benjamin Lewis
Boris and Natasha were based and redpilled
Isaac Anderson
I don’t believe this douche is that dumb. I skimmed that bile he wrote and it’s the most ideologically confused geopolitical posturing, just a bunch of weird signaling slapped onto a page with the overall message that we are “losing” to some kind of evil because Trump is abdicating hegemony. He throws out anything he can. We are leaving room for ISIS. We are backstabbing our “Kurdish allies” and damning them to a Turkish invasion. Trump is too chummy with North Korea and treats Kim like a pal. Apparently we are embracing “repressive leaders” like Saudi Arabia, invoking the murder of Kashoggi (what a novel turn of events!). And of course, the opening salvo that we have “lost the Cold War” and are making HW spin in his grave.
These shitlibs hate Trump so much for being retarded and lacking in his own coherent ideology that they just try however they can to trigger ANY lizard brain, decades old propaganda implanted deep in whatever cross section of the population happened to see this and their other similarly dumb fuck articles.
James Ward
Blame the Boomers, who spent their formative years and much of their adult years marinating in Cold War agitprop
Christopher Rivera
Considering capitalism even exists in china I dont think you 'won' anything. So youll get new ownership, ok. Youll still work at some meaningless store selling meaningless shit. People like stuff, period.
Gabriel White
Dont change, people like you are needed so my children will be able to learn from your mistakes.
Juan Powell
Gorbachev dissolved the USSR knowingly and on purpose but not in the sense retarded burgers think as in "hurr this is what the commies actually wanted and we're living in communism today, they actually won" but simply because he stopped being a communist way before he said he did.
Justin Kelly
ok
Hunter Scott
They’re trying to trigger republicans. They’re supposed to be nationalists, anti-communists. Dumb establishment shitlibs think to themselves “damnit, it just isn’t good enough that it’s Russia, in order to really attack trump, to really twist the knife good it has to be our old communist nemesis the Soviet Union!”
But republicans aren’t actually that retarded, they kind of like Putin for being his own nationalist tough guy that also engages in culture wars. So instead retarded liberals are just propagandizing the especially retarded partisan hack boomers who trust NYT and WaPo unconditionally with the notion that Russia is actually still the USSR.
Austin Robinson
Luis Williams
You know the world is fucked when even Communism is starting to look ok.
Isaac Lee
no, it's plain old liberalism.
this, but unironically.
They'd have sent half of this board in gulags for being a bunch of trannies, druggies and asocial degenerates.
Grayson Smith
more seriously, US-leftist need to purge these lolcows.
it's not healthy to keep these types around, and you know it.
Jayden Jenkins
No some really are that dumb. There are a lot that think Russia is communist. Prior to 2016 the sweeping majority thought this. They only support Putin because the far right media and Trump told them to.
Jackson Rodriguez
It's true though, you fuckwit. You can't expect to spend ~40 years of 'Evil Empire' rhetoric to not have a lingering impact on the generations that grew up with that rhetoric.
Caleb Cruz
Brainlet. Neoliberal refers to economic liberal policies that have been introduced since the 1970s supposedly to recapture the essence of earlier classical liberal/free market economics, under the influence of Friedman, Hayek, von Mises, and others.
Tyler Diaz
Daily reminder amerifat scum
Christopher Richardson
I went down a rabbit hole once and found a really obscure conspiracy that posits that the soviet union never died and its just gone into hibernation while america destroys itself.
Easton Hernandez
Hi classcuck.
Justin Long
Yeah that's /Liberty/ tier shit
I'm currently engaged in a long standing arguement with a guy on there who thinks that Russia is still a Communist Country and that Yeltsin is just a "Commie Rat" that kept central planning by giving the Buisness to his friends
And oh yeah oligarchs are apparently the same thing as state enterprises because oligarchs bribe public officals
Michael Jones
No, the theory wasnt from a capitalist. fuck i wish i could remeber his name. The theory came from a guy who escaped the soviet union and wrote a book predicting its fall like 15 years in advance. and that the fall would actually be a ruse while communism goes into hibernation waiting for capitalism to tear itself apart. as it has post cold war and the free market neoliberal dinosaurs have torn everything apart for profit
Oliver Garcia
This is patriotard nonsense. The Cold War never ended, and it was never really about capitalism vs communism. It was neoliberal globalism vs everyone else, and Stalin's Russia was the only big player organizing resistance.
Look at what the neoliberal gangsters did after the collapse of the SU. The war didn't end for them just because Russia became non-communist. Under the guise of "market reforms" thy looted the nation in the most grotesque fashion, essentially took it over through oligarch frontmen and the criminals around Yeltsin, and only met resistance gradually from 2003. They expanded NATO as far east as possible and behaved in the most aggressive fashion. The forced balkanization of Yugoslavia under the pretext of humanitarianism. Coups and color revolutions.
Angel Diaz
Okay i found it. it was a book called "new lies for old"
In 1984, Anatoliy Golitsyn, an important KGB defector published the book New Lies For Old,[51] wherein he predicted the collapse of the communist bloc orchestrated from above.
He claimed this collapse was part of a long-term deception strategy designed to lull the West into a false sense of security, abolish all containment policies, and in time finally economically cripple and diplomatically isolate the United States.
Among other things, Golitsyn stated:
"The 'liberalization' [in the Soviet Union] would be spectacular and impressive. Formal pronouncements might be made about a reduction in the communist party's role; its monopoly would be apparently curtailed."
"If [liberalization] should be extended to East Germany, demolition of the Berlin Wall might even be contemplated."
"The European Parliament might become an all-European socialist parliament with representation from the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. 'Europe from the Atlantic to the Urals' would turn out to be a neutral, socialist Europe."
en.wikipedia.org
In 1984, Golitsyn published the book New Lies For Old,[16] wherein he warned about a long-term deception strategy of seeming retreat from hard-line Communism designed to lull the West into a false sense of security, and finally economically cripple and diplomatically isolate the United States. Among other things, Golitsyn stated:
The "liberalization" would be spectacular and impressive. Formal pronouncements might be made about a reduction in the communist party's role: its monopoly would be apparently curtailed. An ostensible separation of powers between the legislative, the executive, and the judiciary might be introduced. The Supreme Soviet would be given greater apparent power, and the president of the Soviet Union and the first secretary of the party might well be separated. The KGB would be "reformed." Dissidents at home would be amnestied; those in exile abroad would be allowed to return, and some would take up positions of leadership in government.
Sakharov might be included in some capacity in the government or allowed to teach abroad. The creative arts and cultural and scientific organizations, such as the writers' unions and Academy of Sciences, would become apparently more independent, as would the trade unions. Political clubs would be opened to nonmembers of the communist party. Leading dissidents might form one or more alternative political parties.
There would be greater freedom for Soviet citizens to travel. Western and Unitized Nations observers would be invited to the Soviet Union to witness the reforms in action.[17]
The Perestroika Deception
In 1995, Anatoliy Golitsyn and Christopher Story published a book entitled The Perestroika Deception[19] containing purported memoranda attributed to Golitsyn claiming:
"The [Soviet] strategists are concealing the secret coordination that exists and will continue between Moscow and the 'nationalist' leaders of [the] 'independent' republics."
"The power of the KGB remains as great as ever … Talk of cosmetic changes in the KGB and its supervision is deliberately publicized to support the myth of 'democratization' of the Soviet political system."
"Scratch these new, instant Soviet 'democrats,' 'anti-Communists,' and 'nationalists' who have sprouted out of nowhere, and underneath will be found secret Party members or KGB agents."
John Howard
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Brayden Collins
How stupid are all of you? The US hasn't been a capitalist economy for a century.
Josiah Edwards
Jonathan Williams
just because it was taken over by high finance gangsters doesn't mean it isn't capitalism
Dominic Robinson
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Wyatt Ross
Peak Liberalism.
Zachary Harris
Sorry. If communism is "anytime a nominally pro-communist party runs the country" then capitalism is "anytime a nominally pro-capitalist party runs the country."
Austin Clark
Lincoln Mitchell
Yuri Bezmenov?
Jace Scott
From what you remember of that theory, what would the communists do when capitalism imploded? After all while that may be their plan Russia is still capitalist, so they would be just as affected as the rest of the world, even if their leadership became socialist when this happens. Unless there was something else in the conspiracy?
Charles Hernandez
It's strange watching democrats–which in a sense got some fresh wind in their sails thanks to the disaster of the bush presidency and war in Iraq–try to argue for continued interventionism in Syria. More dead civilians and more dead Americans is fine as long as it spites "muh blumpf", at this point I'd say we should try to redpill the Republican party by working through neocons, they probably have more revolutionary potential by now than dems.
Ayden Lopez
Carter Butler
DIZZY WITH SUCCESS
Chase Wilson
I was thinking about this actually. Lenin was able to gain followers quickly because of his appeal to the peasantry and his lack of Eurocentric idpol. I feel like TERF Wolffism would find it easier to slip its way through the GOP than the DNC, especially with how lenient Nixon was toward Keynes, Reagan towards co-ops, and Trump towards Keen. Republican voters don’t really give a shit about the same dogmas that Communists do.
Noah Davis
>muh crony capitalism
"Crony capitalism" is simply the inevitable result of capitalism. Power to a wealthy few and fuck the rest. That's the essence of capitalism.
Grayson Green
Both Cuntservative and Libtard Americans are extremely retard in different way.
Jackson Lewis
Lincoln Howard
boomerism
Ian Jenkins
It seems americans are politically schizophrenic in general. They see ghosts and hear voices everywhere.
Jace Cruz
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Daniel Stewart
Nice b8