Mfw

Was hoping y’all would take them, they have forever alienated the bulk of the working class away from socialism in the US.

A lot of tranny activists have problems with rad feminism exactly because of this issue. They claim that the US state paid for gender reassignment surgery until an alliance of feminists and conservatives in the early 80s brought an end to it.

In Islamic Iran, they are fine with transsexuals I believe the Iranian state will even pay for it as a “cure” for homosexuality

This is a low-effort, garbage post that already affirms what everyone else here already believes. Delete Facebook because it's fucking terrible and get back to doing something useful with your union instead of coming here to whine about morons who believe in ridiculous shit. This exact thread pops up at least once a month but with slight differences, and every time people here and dumb enough to engage and tell OP the obvious (that these people are stupid and Idpol is dumb).

This might sound like bullshit but I have always heard of Leftypol but I didn’t know it was a community of people that were anti-idpol

I literally thought I was alone on this and even considered just not being a communist anymore after being viciously fucked over in discord after stating how I felt. So my bad.

Honestly surprised by that, because its sort of our shtick by now and its why we don't get along with certain other leftist spaces.

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When I was in discord before in The Socialist Server, people told me it was just a place where people LARP as authoritarian communists.

Also thanks for pictures, nice information. Came here looking for stuff like that.

unfortunately that’s actually true.

What do you mean?

90% of "leftists" on the internet are just liberals with a red fetish

t. anarkid

Hey buddy, if you use 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧reddit🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 then be sure to check out /r/StupidPol and /r/cumtown and /r/FullCommunism and /r/Communism. These are the subs least infected by left liberals and anarkiddies, the first two are anti-idpol. There is hope…

socialism in america and western europe literally just means "acting like a faggot" (sadly)

you could be organising a site-wide strike at a steel mill while preaching to your co-workers about wage theft as you hand out copies of "what is to be done" but if you're not a skinnyfat queer with self-diagnosed PTSD from breaking up with your ex-girlfriend (who has a penis) or some kike wearing too much makeup, obnoxiously high heels, and glasses as big as your oversized nose then honey you aren't doing real socialism

absolutely disgusting

idpol and mtwism

Don't know why you would hand out "what is to be done" during a strike. I mean unless the point of the strike is that you really really feel the need to start an all-russia newspaper.

r/communism is a lot more dengist than MTW

It was a rhetorical device not meant literally

I know, I'm just being an ass, and I find it funny just how much "what is to be done" talks about newspapers. Really explains the trot obsession with newspapers though.

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I’m not. you probably think anyone who calls the DPRK capitalist is an anarkid, a testament to my point.

just be careful criticizing anything MLs ever did otherwise you’ll get b&

This blogpost made me feel sick.

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I am an ML so I think I’ll get along just fine in here.

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I wanna know what you guys think about the LGBT+ because Im getting mixed signals.

strawpoll.me/17213143

99% of people don't give a shit as long as you don't make it your identity. For example I'm bi but I never talk about it because 99% of the time (now not included), it's just not relevant. Of course LGBT people should be treated equally and free from discrimination.

Love to get half way through signing up for Momentum and then close the window half way when it turns out I'll get passed over for promotions due to being white and male, but won't if I tell them my sexuality. So much for to each according to his ability.

What a stupid post.

Thanks for your input, and I feel this is the same for most but some times I read some Zig Forums tier comments about trannies and was confused.q

More like the trufax.

kys

Well there are some Zig Forumsluters lurking around here but most of the legitimately crypto-fascists pretending to be leftists congregate on Zig Forums. Don't visit that board, it's utter shit.

I didn’t make the post ni🅱️🅱️a. Can you read?

Just as jewish as communism, oy vey

Dumb brocialist radlib
Not saying Clinton didn't fix the DNC or that she even should have been legally allowed to run for president. But Clinton appropriating feminism doesn't automatically make all feminist principles idpol

I hate to say it, but in your last pic Hillary is not exactly wrong, but breaking up the banks would be a step in the right direction. Also lol @ muh Bernie being disrupted by BLM, which is a social movement anyone can say they’re a member of. Weird how you include BLM near a thing on COINTELPRO, because if anything is getting the COINTELPRO treatment it would be BLM, a movement with legitiment grievances only a reactionary would deny. The US government has been systematically targeting any movement for the true betterment of Black people for decades but in the retard brocialist brain Blacks getting upset at being brutalized in internal colonies is a creation of the government.

people like you should be banned.

Oh sorry let me correct myself
kys in slightly different circumstances

how does it make sense to subdivide the oppressed proletariat? i cant help but see this as subversive. plus these stupid liberal ideas are entirely establishment.

I've heard about this before, but how would that even work. Wouldn't that be the same as admitting Allah makes mistakes?

Allah makes mistakes, Muhammad however didn't made any mistakes. I'm not joking, this is canon.

You know nothing. Back to Zig Forums

Stop being retarded. The Panthers came from Black Power as well as the NJM in Grenada

Autogynophelia is so fucking gross tbh. I can sympathize with gender non-conforming people who experience dysphoria, but for a lot of them it's CLEARLY a fetish. Getting hard when you put on panties and a bra isn't "gender euphoria." Trans women is pretty much blackface for women; there's no way for someone born a man to understand what the experience of a woman is like, and vice versa. You can't just pick and choose how you are socialized.

The idea that being a man or woman can be reduced to a feeling is incredibly idealist, and completely ignores the fact that patriarchal societal relations are a direct result of women's biology and the exploitation of reproductive and emotional labor. Men didn't just get together and decide to start oppressing women all of the sudden.

Sorry if this wall of text is kinda disorganized,

I completely agree. Thanks for this post comrade.

You realize you got baited into idpol by just participating in that discussion right? And now I'm getting baited into it just to tell you not to get baited into it. Idpol is about nothing more than creating a distraction and wasting your time and energy.

I agree with you user even though I have the fetish but I'm under no delusions about it being real

We all are of the opinion that persecution based on sexuality is a bourgeois tactic to divide the proles, but at the same time so is elevating one’s identity based on sexuality and gender above class solidarity. Being anti idpol means being oppose to homophobia and transphobia, because these are themselves forms of idpol.

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Trans people often reject their gender socialization at a young age. So you either believe that people suffer from dysphoria are legitimate, or you believe that you can't change genders despite literally decades of scientific evidence suggesting that you can. Also, muh socialized as male is a pretty weak-ass excuse when trans and gay male children are ostensibly never treated like men – ever, except in the rare cases where they have accepting families or they've managed to start passing.
I've heard people use "class reductionist" to describe Marxists who want to see revolution, but it really seems to fit here when you don't have the slightest understanding of how patriarchy affects everyone, not just cis women. But playing the victim when material realities suggest you're not at the bare bottom of society reeks of privilege if I ever saw it.
I'm honestly convinced this is something radlibs made up to dunk on trans people, which is why all the Reddit posts that find their way here have like three upvotes max.

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Isn't this the literal definition of homophobia?

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The options are limited but I picked it in lieu of a "I don't want social climbing retards coming in and talking about it 24/7 and grifting for special treatment due to their minority status" option

Do you seriously believe that most trans women were actual socialized as men? No, they got shit on for being girly.

Well I think we'd all select that one now wouldn't we.

I mean I get the impression they're the same thing in America.

Most people in America are still anti-LGBT and won't stand up for LGBT comrades while using the "well it's fine behind closed doors" excuse.

Maybe they should knock it off with their constant wrecking?

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can't we just ban all "idpol" discussion already and stop pretending it's a real issue

Back to reddit faggot.

Quit blocking off gay comrades, then, and instead try to get them in like we do for Nazis

Nobody blocks them off you delusional retard, the problem is they're accepted at face value as "good, folx" when they're largely a bunch of liberal wreckers and chancers.

h-hot

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Yup. That tactic only works on twitter you retarded faggot.

No by all means keep demonstrating who you really are, other Zig Forumslacks my get it after seeing you embarass yourself.

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lol.

Nice try bud, that's not intellectual dishonesty.
Who are you quoting?

This complete and utter incoherent retard here
Where's the lie?
Fuck off back to reddit :^)

Tfw people don't realize gender dysphoria is caused by gender roles, and body shapes

I don't know about anyone else here, but I'd prefer if people not talk about sex shit at all. Period. Gay and straight.

Really makes ya think.

LAUGHS IN BI

No, this statement is borderline nonsense so maybe you should clarify what you mean in case I've missed your point.
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Thanks for backpedaling, it shows genuine remorse.

It shows you've been fighting a strawman because you're retarded and apparently needed what I said rewording to ESL friendly tier phrases for your simple mind to wrap itself around my Jupiterian thoughts.
Protip: "Largely" in English means "mostly"

What is this, 2013 /m/? The best part is you've been having an autistic shit-fit about a sentence you were literally unable to understand instead of being able to read it. Let me spell it out for you so your learning disability won't get in the way:
wHy DoN't We TrY cOnVeRtInG gAy PeOpLe To CoMmUnIsM iNsTeAd Of BlAmInG gAy PeOpLe FoR bEiNg DiScRiMiNaTeD aGaInSt
You're deluded if you think half this board isn't expatriated from Zig Forums

It's like you're so retarded you cannot understand that I want them to stop wrecking and the only reason "most" Americans now oppose them (which wasn't true several years ago) is because they're the most confrontational and insufferable cunts in the English speaking world - the primary way that they engage in wrecking.
The eternal redditor strikes again.
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Are you retarded or did you actually write that thinking that you weren't proving my point?
How are you this new?
SHUT IT DOWN! THE SECTARIAN KNOWS!

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I think last poll showed around 5% Trans. I will admit though, there were a lot of Bisexuals, like 30% to 40%.

I wrote it not giving a shit about your instinctual urge to yikes your retarded little brain out.
Keep being illiterate (for the nth post in a row). Only redditors think the majority of the board is Zig Forums converts.

The only hurt feelings here seem to be from a pair of liberal retards who are upset they're getting called out for the major contribution of the "LGBT community" in recent years being little more than wrecking, wrecking and wrecking.

He's out of arguments, boys.

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Probably like 80% bi and 5% trans. Bisexuality is pretty “normal” (in terms of occurence) in the general population whether they admit it or not but I’m sure trannies are overrepresented on imageboards

Sorry did you at some point have something to respond to beyond numerous yikesings, crying about homophobia, regurgitating twitter memes and getting mad at your own inability to read?
Can you redirect me to the argument?

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Here's your screenshot, you strange little enby.

There's a reason 44% of the board when polled would like you to shut the fuck up.

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What's an enby? Why do you keep trying to justify your actual homophobia? But more importantly,
SHUT IT DOWN

Yes, fellow memers, we are le 4chon army. Not reddit.

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lmao
toxic ideologies make you act toxic. Who knew?

this is why we need a screening process: a test for socialist I.Q. (tests knowledge of socialism, like 'define socialism in your own words', 'who was the first person to call themself an anarchist', etc entry-level questions every socialist should know, and a dress code like that other user said.

if they fail the requirements they must take a couple of course, provided by the socialist org, free of charge and by a senior member, to train them, retake the test and if pass be allowed into the org. lets be honest, walk-ins quickly fill up with liberals. We need a screening process people, come the fuck on.

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Also need a dress and morality code so the pink haired pot smoking de.generate lumpen don't join the party.