Let us discuss! Please be reasonable

Zachary Adams
Zachary Adams

Let us discuss! Please be reasonable.

I think societey will eventually, yes, treat pedophilia as a form of optional sexuality without heavy discrimination, although I think there will be always at least a small group of people that will directly dislike it. It will become just another form of sexuality because of the tendency of society to lose it's barriers, and the fact that underage sex is already common in most countries, even though it should take some time to a culturally depth to be created. The reason why a antagonic group will exist is simple: the is a anti-pedo culture today. Some will inherit those traits and propagate such antagonization.

But I'm uncertain about one out of the other things. I don't exatcly know or can make a guess about which are going to be the steps that humanity will take in order to become e pedo-normalized society. Maybe something to do with a rupture with the state and other institutions, given that they are becoming more and more alien to people as individuals, giving a feeling that they are distant and apart from what the person is.

Do you think society will eventually accept pedophilia? What would be necessary to be done in order to achieve such a result?

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Gavin King
Gavin King

Stick with fapping to loli, 2d > 3d even with cute little girls

Nolan Richardson
Nolan Richardson

sex between minors of the same age is the same as adults fucking kids

Ethan Watson
Ethan Watson

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Aaron White
Aaron White

Pedophiles will be physically castrated under socialism.

Connor Williams
Connor Williams

lol

Din't express correctly, sorry. It is common for 13 to 15 girls to have sex with 20+ men.

Lucas Edwards
Lucas Edwards

The abusers? The ones that feel atraction? The ones that can easily socialize with children but not with adults? The topic is more complex than what you think it is. All these sets I mentioned have disjoint parts.

Ethan Lopez
Ethan Lopez

I agree, to build a true mass movement we need all oppressed and colonized peoples, including the pedos. Time to put diddling in the manifesto!

Caleb Murphy
Caleb Murphy

Pedos get the bullet.

Dominic Nelson
Dominic Nelson

Did you even read what I wrote? I'm talking about the odds of society to accept pedophilia and what path it should take in order for that to happen.

Jack Murphy
Jack Murphy

children
Shit taste

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Owen Morris
Owen Morris

Also, anyone can discuss this topic without taking any position. You don't need to be a pedo or a radical anti-pedo in order to discuss what will be the reality of future societies.

Nathaniel Scott
Nathaniel Scott

Do you think society will eventually accept pedophilia?
Not really.
What would be necessary to be done in order to achieve such a result?
Defining consent and responsibility in terms of intelligence, which would also need a way to measure intelligence accurately. A really dumb adult is as manipulative as a child, you don't magically turn smart one day after turning 18, it doesn't really make all that much sense.
Still, there must be a general way to prevent people from taking advantage, just like I'm sure there are 16 yo teens out there that drive better than I do, however that's not enough as a general rule.

So, you would need such an advanced society that abstract concepts like "age" and "maturity" no longer exist, and that my dear will probably never happen.

In conclusion, kill yourself pedo.

Jonathan Williams
Jonathan Williams

14 is as low as it goes in Europe
And that honestly makes sense since children haven't reached the peak of the cognitive development until the ages of 14-15 (By peak I mean the necessary structures to continue their development)
But we also have to take in mind that the frontal lobe develops fully much later in our teenage years and that is when our self control mechanisms mostly kick in.

Under the age of 14 and you get the bullet though.

Anthony Jones
Anthony Jones

14 is a good age
almost all girls will have bleed by this time, they will be ready to save the white race. (yes, white, because brown, black, yellow already do it)

Brandon Garcia
Brandon Garcia

Never happen? Why? I think this is a very anti-materialistic way of thinking, since you're bounding something almost implying that there is something like human nature, and that transformations of social relations can't occur. They do, and society might as well morph to such a result even though it is pretty unlikely. I understand that you said probably, but it still a pretty deterministic view.

Also, the fact that a thing like "mental age" exist will make it more likely, not the other way around, since it blurs the distinction between actual age and behaviour.

Brayden Johnson
Brayden Johnson

Not really relevant. The discussion is, a priori, about what could impact us enough to consider a pedo-normalization. Are you implying that humanity will take what you described as a necessary condition? Because I think that this consideration by their part is very unlikely.

Jacob Flores
Jacob Flores

save the white race
But /pol/ you are not white, why do you care about whites so much, baboon poster found a black girl for himself, I am sure you too can find some sort of mystery meat creature that will love you.

Brandon Phillips
Brandon Phillips

This is why consent ages are stupid, sexual abuse should be determined on a case by case basis, there's no reason to draw a line at an arbitrary age and say everything above is good and everything below is bad. It protects people who abuse 16 year olds and ruins lives of people who had sex with a 15 year old from Grindr who had barely any contact before and none after.

Julian Bennett
Julian Bennett

baboon poster found a black girl for himself
He said she's Palestinian/Indonesian. I wonder what she looks like.

Logan Campbell
Logan Campbell

Yes, it is actually very anti-scientific since reality is not deterministic.

Nicholas Jones
Nicholas Jones

there is an anti-pedo culture

Jose Jones
Jose Jones

Just because society advances, it doesn't mean that it will adopt some fetish/taboo. We used to let child work in factories and we don't do it anymore, in that sense society advanced to let the kids have a protected status, alcohol and cigarettes are not sold to them anymore either. We can put in jail abusing parents. Kids are very sensible and things that happen in their age will likely shape who they are in life, kids with traumas usually keep them for life. It's not as simple as you're shaping it to be, and that probably says a lot about about *your* mental age.

Juan Lee
Juan Lee

Most of us know how these threads go. Eventually, no matter the premise, as long as it's pedo related, it will devolve into "Why don't socialists support the pedos?" and the answer is always "It's terrible politics" and then they wheel out the old memes and call everyone heggin spooged.

Gabriel Foster
Gabriel Foster

sexual abuse should be determined on a case by case basis
It is, that's how the Law works. It also uses some guide lines that helps the judge decide what punishment should the offender receive. How old are you, man? Do you know how reality works?

Isaac White
Isaac White

It is common for 13 to 15 girls to have sex with 20+ men
There was a statistic from some dating app on this. Yes, it is not unlikely for a woman much younger to date someone 10 years her senior for example, but it's mostly men that actively seek women younger than them. Men 30+ will almost always choose a chick in her 20s regardless of his age.

Angel Cruz
Angel Cruz

Just because society advances, it doesn't mean that it will adopt some fetish/taboo
That is not what I implied at all. I pointed out some signs of how society would normalize it. The central point, I would say, is the fact that society is becoming more and more open to sexuality and minors are already starting a sexual life. Some relations between adults and teens are already happening and normal.

Also, I never said it was simple. Indeed, I opposed the deterministic view. You're attacking a strawman and just being sassy by the fact that you have no relevant thing to say, it seems.

Luis Ortiz
Luis Ortiz

Preying on the retarded gets the bullet too.
At what point is when a retarded person is so impaired that his "consent" is not consensual. It's pretty sad for someone to love a retarded person for what they are and have to live in the fear of prosecution, but it doesn't matter because societal norms am I right?

Eli Russell
Eli Russell

This one will not.

but it's mostly men that actively seek women younger than them
This doesn't exactly contradict the possibility, right? It could be the case that this normalization would come from nowadays manifestation of male-driven sexuality.

Jaxon Brown
Jaxon Brown

Minors always had a sexual life, user. Ask your nan-nan. You don't hear so much about it in the past because people didn't have leftypol to shitpost on back then, and also sex was stigmatized. But sex definitely did happen, even adult-teenage relationships, since women were encouraged to marry as soon as possible.

manifestation of male-driven sexuality
No, it is a manifestation of moronic cultural leftovers and perhaps a bit of small dick syndrome on some men's part. I'm a man myself and don't see the point of preying on vulnerable teenagers.

Christian Cruz
Christian Cruz

I think the correct stance to take is to be against predatory relationships without discrimination of ethnicity, political affiliation, Sex, disability, physical characteristics, and age.
That said social norms are still going to stigmatize certain relationships. For example it was taboo to marry a black man even though it was legal.

Hudson Rivera
Hudson Rivera

The central point, I would say, is the fact that society is becoming more and more open to sexuality and minors are already starting a sexual life.
They always had sexual life, we are animals after all. This doesn't mean anything. As the other user pointed out, people used to marry childs and we moved AWAY from that. Society being sexually open is different from it changing the concepts of consent and age.

Cooper Cox
Cooper Cox

Minors always had a sexual life, user
But it nowadays case is greater.

it is a manifestation of moronic cultural leftovers and perhaps a bit of small dick syndrome on some men's part
Not what I see. It's really common for chads to go for really young ages. A more accurate and scientific answer for what already happens is the biological development that implies that those girls are ready to provide offspring.

Logan Bell
Logan Bell

trying to get a "reasonable" discussion about pedophilia on a leftist board to associate us with pedophilia

Put me in the screenshot, /pol/

Wyatt Phillips
Wyatt Phillips

more accurate and scientific answer for what already happens is the biological development that implies that those girls are ready to provide offspring.
provide offspring
How does this come into play when it revolves around sex for pleasure and not procreation?

Robert Harris
Robert Harris

We moved away from the social institutions and constructions that would dictate value, but we certainly didn't move away from the practices, which is what is actually relevant.

Ethan Ortiz
Ethan Ortiz

But it nowadays case is greater
There's no way to prove that. I think that with sexual education and contraception people are more self-conscious, in my experience.

Not what I see. It's really common for chads to go for really young ages. A more accurate and scientific answer for what already happens is the biological development that implies that those girls are ready to provide offspring.
Lol, you're giving off real incel vibes. Not to mention that if you're a Chad, supposedly the purpose is to fuck women, not have kids with them.

Alexander Gray
Alexander Gray

Pedo is an incel
Lol of course.

Connor Morris
Connor Morris

schizophrenia

Because they're not disjoint. Sex for pleasure is related with biological traits that are deeply connected with procreation. Of course I'm not saying that such a thing would encapsulate the answer, but instead would give as a brief hint about the subject.

Oliver Jackson
Oliver Jackson

Read .

Andrew Nguyen
Andrew Nguyen

chads
hahahahahaHHahahahha

Wyatt Perry
Wyatt Perry

Do you think society will eventually accept pedophilia?
Obviously, yes.

What would be necessary to be done in order to achieve such a result?
100% serious here: either full communism, or full feudalism.

<Why paedophilia absolutely should be forbidden
For exact same reason we somewhat shelter the children from other interactions of our merciless and man-eat-man society.

<If you are troubled by the ban on sexual relations with the minors, you are 99% a horrible person
It means that you look for something that you can't possibly find in legal adults? What could that possibly be? Vulnerability.

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William Sanders
William Sanders

schizophrenia

Yeah sure my man.

Charles Flores
Charles Flores

Sex for pleasure is related with biological traits that are deeply connected with procreation
We are actually one of the only animal specie that has sex for pleasure lol. We do it because it feels good and we are rational enough to figure out that it can work without spawning children. Idiot.

Liam Cooper
Liam Cooper

The simple problem is that people don't want their kids getting coerced/banged by some random older weirdo.

This isn't a problem of social conditioning, it's a problem of abuse and humans will always find that shit nasty af.

I think the UK's age of consent at 16 is fine. And even then the girls that age are fucking retarded and really not intellectually 'mature'.

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