Georgy Malenkov

From what I gather, despite his brutalist measures in USSR domestic policy, from what I've read he was less revisionist than Brezhnev and actually didn't want nuclear re-armament and advocated for giving east Germany back to the west in fears that not doing so would create a catastrophic war all over again. This likely would be eased tensions during the cold war period while still towing the party line in the Soviet Union. Thoughts?

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Traitors are the first against the wall.

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sounds like shit actually

He had good ideas for domestic policy, mainly shifting more focus on consumer goods rather than heavy industry, but overall lame leader. Kruschev despite flaws, was better.

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Tbh if the Stalin note had been proposed just after the East-Berlin riots of '53 it would have been accepted and NATO Germany could have been reunited back then. It would have become a battleground state like Italy in Europe, perhaps tipping the tide against US hegemony.

What's up with the "more consumer goods, less heavy industry" meme? It's not one or the other. How would less heavy industry benefit the production of consumer goods? "Muh consumer goods" is stale anti-communist propaganda anyways, consumer goods in the USSR were durable and fully domestically produced. People in the West (and by West I mean

It was more "you do you, I'll do me" thing. I doubt he cared about the west and just wanted to mind his own beeswax and just focus on the Soviets. K, Trotshit?

Unpopular opinion time but to me DDR supporting the bourgeois Vietcong over the superior proletarian Democratic Kampuchea was the equivalent of the U.S. supporting turdistan in today's world. Lousy praxis.

Molotov was superior to both of them, despite having flaws like promising to allow Bourgeois newspapers and advocating to give Crimea to the Jews as a second autonomous oblast.

eh, sounds alright but not woke on jews. eh. can't win em all. though I do admit there's some shitty huwite philosophers and good jewish ones, so its not as cut and dry as it seems. philosophy isn't a money making venture so those that do are likely in it for the real deal.

While what you are saying is mostly true, nevertheless because of very high military budget Soviet industry was not as productive as it could have been. Another problem is Soviet exports were mostly raw resources, rather than industrial goods. Unfortunately it involves small export to friendly countries like Libya,Cuba,Yemen which also hurt quality of life in those countries too.

you know that's not a sentence that makes any sense, right?

which is exactly what the whole socialist camp went for later on, and did hurt the economy, but ok…

I am the master of Absurdism.

my gott what am I reading, what the fuck have you been huffing


ok retard


If military spending is the problem you should've said so, not vaguely point in the direction of heavy industry in general.

What's wrong with either of those things? I think monitored distribution of western press could have given Soviet citizens a lot of perspective and the paternalistic attitude of the Party likely contributed to a lot of dissent. And an Autonomous Oblast in Crimea makes more sense than one in Far East Siberia and protecting/allowing self determination of minority groups, besides being important in itself, undermines a lot of western propaganda about "muh soviets as bad as natzees"

fucking retard lmao

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meme all you want but one classical liberal did say something right:

"tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are"

having Hollywood roasties and faggot hippies be butt buddies with you is bad praxis.

also making fun of the retarded is reactionary and liberal.

Do you have any idea how bad cold war era propaganda was? Soviet economists by the 80s completely believed neoliberal garbage that western economists knew was ideological garbage and not the way a capitalist economy actually functions. Neoclassical theory with supply & demand and equilibrium and such sounds very elegant and scientific but is literal magic detached from the real functioning of capitalism.
Radio "Free" (broadcasted from Franco's Spain among others) "Europe" (owned by the US government) also spread the most vicious lies about what life in the west was really like.


Yeah dude, John Lennon and Ho Chi Minh? Best friends forever. Maybe give "Revolution" another listen. These "hollywood roasties and faggot hippies" are still overwhelmingly anti-communist.


I get that you're a recent convert but you stick out like a sore thumb.

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Recent? More like six years ago.

Let's be real here though, fb censors "fag" and "nigger" and even "cunt" but when it comes to the mentally ill they just let it happen. Shows where the priorities of big business are, in reality. Then they wonder how one got a gun and holocausted their school. Rinse repeat. It's a circus sideshow at this point.

In reality they were just faggot humanists who tried Marxist praxis. But those days are over. LONG OVER.

He means to the board.

Look fam, we're never going to make a mass movement of anxiety addled genderqueer enbies, retards, and middle class black women from the DNC. The average person all across the world is incredibly politically correct, purity tests need to be dropped.

No. Been here too for quite some time. I left because of body oder

Same, only just came back recently. Still don't trust the cunt and am continuing my OC and effortpost strike. I know exactly what they're going to do when the board starts climbing in users again so what's the point.

Oh I know that already but why big businesses favor certain demographics over others I will never know. Then again it's not really that important

Expansion of demographic reach. It's amusing when you see the right flip out over race mixing in advertising, but the math is simply that you're catering to whites + one minority ethnic group.
The majority of the Anglo world is socially liberal too, so there's no risk in, for example, having a float at Pride.

someone crying about identity politics and language policing is whining about BO not making the board a safe space
huh… and once more siding with them

I dont want to claim I know more than I do about this, but isnt it possible the attempt to throttle information/propaganda entering the USSR contributed to the Soviet population believing myths the west didnt even believe about themselves? I dont want to sound like an idealist assuming that if people had access to all the information they would just know better, but from even a purely strategic perspective it does seem as if the trickle of propaganda into the USSR may have been more harmful than a more generally open policy of access to western press.

That's an argument against glasnost, surely?

Repressing free speech does not prevent bourgeois propaganda, because this propaganda will have the backing of world powers writing blank checks. All it does is make it harder to openly challenge this propaganda by virtue of making it impossible to criticize what actually is wrong with the status quo. It makes the bourgs look like the "good guys".

Obviously Gorbachev's method was doomed but if there had been a way of allowing dissemination of western propaganda earlier, maybe with the department overseeing propaganda and including contextualization of western claims with data and counterarguments, it may have more effectively won the good will of the population at large and given them the moral high ground of a "socialist freedom of speech."

Who? The soviets? The vietcong? Anti-war protesters in the US?

Both Malenkov and Beria had been part of a Stalins war committee and his secret council post-war and effectivly consulted with stalin to rubber stamp most bills
After Stalin died he actually oversaw a slight tearing down of the personality cult (though not to the extent that Khrushchev did) and supported a detente with capitalist powers
During his tenure the country was pretty much run as a dualarchy between him and Beria in which they attempted to continue Stalins rule by decree though this eventually failed resulting in Beria's arrest and Execution and Malenkov's displacement from important goverment posts (Though he would later return to support Brezhnev in both votes against Khrushchev)

It's not even ethnocentrism anymore. It's pantheist syndicates

The hippies. Mostly rich kids and college fags. I assume most here completed at least a year of college. Most poor fucks like me never could. Ofc I dunno whether to pity or envy….

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lol

I honestly don't care either way, it's either an all or nothing policy with me. I'm an absolutist in my philosophy, body over and (you) especially may not be partial to that. That's not gonna matter in class war, dipshit.

Not what I was saying but ok

lets see here, most turd wave feminists are golden children who get spoonfed from birth and get the easy way out, so they're gone, trannies (surgery requires you to be rich), also can't make a kid with a man, so they're out (liability not to produce future proles), gays/lesbians are a mixed bag, so I don't give a hoopty da whether they're involved as long as they're prole class (though they need surrogates for kids), and mental illness (mixed bag, but most are low income due to their illness, esp those that are out of their folks house and have to make do) they can be involved. that's how I see it.

hmm ok