Immigration, as with homeless, is a symptom of the problems in society, not the cause.
If the right are so interested in stopping immigration, why don't they go after the cause ie the greedy jews making the world a place of haves and have nots to solidify the power structure.
This is of course a rhetorical question
The reason is because the right support capitalism that relies on making the world a shitty place for the majority which encourages immigration because the Have Nots end up coveting what the Haves have. A good time to remind people of the hypocrisy of the right; condemning jews for being greedy and covetous whilst supporting an economic system that rewards people who are greedy and covetous.
Zig Forums offer a red pill. but it is a red pill that only awakens people to a second matrix. A matrix where people are tricked into thinking that brown people with no money are a bigger problem to the world that greedy jews that run the world like president trump. that it is okay to support capitalism, a system which supports the power structure, whilst treating the symptoms of the problem they create by building a security fence that spans an entire continent, building their own prison.
It's not even hypocrisy, is the thing. They outright say that they only hate the Jews because they're in competition with them for control over capitalism. They don't hate them for being greedy, but for being in the way of their own success. If they achieved their perfect world where all positions of power were held by an elite cabal of whites, they'd just go after some more granular group to further concentrate power - whites with the wrong hair, or the wrong eye color, or the wrong skull shape, ect.
Jason Martinez
Leftism is about comprehensive change to society that removes the causes of human suffering. Rightism is all about ignoring the problem by just killing all the poor people, ditching them into a mass grave and building an aesthetic romanesque statue over it.
Chase Lee
I can tell you've never been to pol. Why the fuck would ethnonationalists give a single solitary fuck about other ethnicities? By that logic your house is a prison.
Jack Bailey
yes absolutely implying that your home is a prison. you haven't noticed that getting a mortgage for example makes you a prisoner in a certain property for maybe 30 years?
Robert Parker
who has advocated against this but still in favor of borders?
also border walls do stop mass immigration but there is more than can be don't. No one is denying this.
Capitalism without brown people is better than capitalism with brown people however there are two modes of thinking here.
The first and most obvious is pragmatism. In the US today it is a miracle that Trump won on an anti immigration platform, a policies supported by both sides of the ruling class.
Also you have to understand that the anti immigration member of government are much different than the working class. You ask any working class trump supporter they will be all for fining companies that hire illegals where as you ask a Republican congressman he will quiver and dodge questions at the will of his financial masters.
The only contradiction would be the National Capitalism (oxymoron)
Elijah Williams
any time you make a division you are adding density to the matrix. the prison of the control system is in your mind, walls are pretty much the most powerful symbol of division you can get whether they be physical or mental (a border without a wall is a powerful symbol of division, and is yet just a holographic construct as much is a physical wall). whether a wall be at a border, or the walls of your house, you are still adding structure to the control system
Brody Hughes
Do you have any info on immigration in the USSR? It's just something that has always interested me a bit but I know nothing of.
Luke Thompson
only if you could prove political alignment like refugees from the Spanish Civil War and such
There were near to none immigration in the USSR, apart from the specialists that it lacked (during industrialisation) and political asylum of pro-Soviet combatants and spies.
Bentley Powell
Literally all it would take to significantly reduce (illegal) immigration is to crack down on employers for illegal hiring. But since the US is ruled by two capitalist parties such a thing could never happen. If the republicans' nativism was more than a performance they would do it.
Eli Price
wouldnt a intuitive counter argument to this simply be
just use common sense. why would this immigrants go somewhere where nobody is willing to hire them?
Leo Price
You're overthinking it. There is no ideological complexity to be found in people that base their convictions on artifact-riddled jpeg infographs.
Zig Forums just doesn't fucking care. That their ideologies are incoherent and hypocritical is irrelevant to them, because they don't actually have any ideals or goals to uphold. Politics to them is just a game of petty interpersonal drama and feeling dominant over random online strangers so they can feel like they are mentally stronger than they really are. It is literally Internet role playing. In fact, many of them would be disappointed by the end of the liberal status quo, since they are consumer whores that fear conflict with real consequences. They like being able to whine about duh genewacy all day instead of having to form opinions on things that aren't emotionally charged enough to be fun to argue about.
I can guarantee you that by age 30, the majority of Zig Forums will be ordinary conservative voters, like how LARPing fake-radicals end up as milquetoast liberals.
Aaron Turner
well if i was to believe conservative propaganda, to rape their daughters, commit acts of terrorism and smuggle drugs.
aren't you kind of giving them too much credit.
the alt-right like to pretend that what they are doing and what they believe in is in some way part of some unveiling of truth about how the control system has pulled the wool over their eyes. yes they may even be larping that they are red pilled. but in the end of the day what does their ideologies boil down to? they are xenophobic / racist capitalists. there is nothing new or alternative about being a racist capitalist. they are the ordinary conservative voter, just with a desire to feel that they are part of some spiritual awakening and that they are somehow alternative and hip, which is pretty ironic / hypocritical of them, given that spiritual awakenings and wanting to be hip (be a hippy) is pretty liberal of them.
consider that a synonym for the alt-right could be the progressive-right, which is oxymoronic.
maybe alot of them are RPing. but given poe's law, it can be pretty much guaranteed that there will be people who actually believe their BS. and given that there are people that believe that bullshit, it means there are some pretty deluded people out there. people who actually think that hating brown people is part of some grand spiritual journey, which makes them as dangerous as any of the people they claim are the problem with the world, ie ostensible muslim terrorists
Christian Morris
You guys do understand that /pols only difference is most are nationalists. Most poltards hate Zionism. The only promoters of Zionism on cuckchan are shills and raiders. Leftypol seems fairly reasonable on everything imo except immigration and race. There really should be a truce to promote each board. /Pol has a lot in common with the dissident left.
Aiden Perez
I'd rather have brown socialism than white capitalism, only in one of those am I not being cucked by an upper class
Jaxon Johnson
Its not a matter of hating brown people, its a desire to be left alone and have a piece of preservation. Yeah most people post ironically to be edgey, but no one on /pol except stormfags want to be skinheads. Pol wants to fight the popular status quo of white people being the new boogeyman. That being said, pol hates neocons like John McCain, and George W. Bush. Also, most poltards on noninterventionalists, opposed to their neocon counterparts.
Ryder Mitchell
Why not have socialism and a consolidated group of like minded individuals? Truthfully some white people I cant get along with. But, identity plays an undeniable role in a persons psychology. What else does one have in todays promotion of consumerism and whoring to the federal reserve as a neofeudal slave? I'm in the Russian community of america and although I was not in the soviet Union many who experienced I know and agree with in my day to day life as far as how a utopia would be, and I'm openly a Not Socialist with them. The upper class management is different but both respect the working class and emphasize the ones who contribute the most.
Asher Turner
No dumbass, you can only keep using the 'we're totally ironic and have reasonable goals!' excuse for so long.
Take one look at Zig Forums, it's full of the most resentful, spiteful, mentally ill pieces of shit gathered on one place on the internet. It's fucking obvious what your endgame has always been : ethnic cleansing. It's always the same with fascist degenerates.
Sebastian Nelson
But thats where youre wrong. Fascism is imperialism. They are one in the same. The amish would be a better example of Not Socialism than Hitler. It was reactionary. And since you cant debate ideas without the same unoriginal straw man maybe you could use irony and satire. The soviet union was fascist in its own way as well. Fascism is not only unique to Nat.Soc. Moron. If you wanna have a circle jerk with an echo chamber go right ahead but I'm offering food for thought
Eli Baker
Your 'food for thought' is obfuscatory garbage. The right will always, always be mentally ill psychopaths and capitalists.
Your rhetoric is always slimy and intangible, don't get it in your head that the left's goals will ever align with yours.
Kevin Thomas
Psychopathic…ayyyy lmao. Well, you'll be lined up on the wall and have your brains blown out by your own Stalin once you served your purpose. Just like a communist
I read the memo to be fair, but bruh…chinas death toll alone was greater than any other death count which was from communist leaders. How is that ignored? Obviously any system has flaws and psychos and nepotists but jesus christ. Unforgivable.
Jonathan Johnson
With an HDI of 0.920 in 1990? Not really.
First off, drop the reddit spacing. Second, reason and logic. Most illegal immigrants simply overstay their work visas (so they legally crossed the border) and employers don't end the contract because cheap labor is cheap labor and the government isn't gonna do anything to them.
You can do that at home, no need to go to the US for that. You go to the US for work.
The fact that the ranges given for famines under socialism are completely retarded says enough. It's propaganda, even the lower end estimate is bullshit. In the case of the Soviet famine of 1932-1933, it's counting birth deficit as lives lost, which roughly quadruples the real death toll. If you apply the same metrics to count deaths under socialism to capitalism you end up with billions instead of millions. I don't believe capitalism killed billions just like communism didn't kill millions, it's the metrics used which are only useful for propaganda purposes.
Brayden Scott
either troll or retard
either way gtfo my thread
Dylan Cruz
Not that anom but can i get a sauce on the HDI of 0.920 statistic
Oliver Foster
I hate how Zig Forums has become a bunch of bootlickers. Like I was a Paleo-Con and now I've become a Stalinist because of how NPC they are with how you can't have revolutions and shit like that or can't tax the rich because they will run away.
Yes the whole Trotskyists being NeoCons thing helped turn me into a Stalinist.
Elijah Diaz
No sense administering medicine to the dead I suppose.
hdr.undp.org/sites/default/files/reports/219/hdr_1990_en_complete_nostats.pdf I crunched the numbers and this means that the countries with a higher HDI amounted for only 15% of world population, which shows how skewed our perception of the USSR being a shithole is since we only compare it with those. When you consider how that developed part of the capitalist world is dependent on labor and resources from less developed countries of the capitalist world it becomes clear just how well the USSR was performing. Overall, life in the socialist world was better than in the capitalist world, even if you count China.
upper class "respecting" the working class means nothing when they're literally picking their pockets with a smile on their face
Robert Martin
the world would've been so much easier to live in if we could just have had 8 more years of this guy.
Mason Miller
you are a troll / retard
saying that i'm ignoring you is like a dodgy wheel bearing on car expecting to have its screeching noise considered as logical discourse.
if all you are doing is making noise please dont expect it to be confused with logical thought.
i'm going to go ahead and demonstrate how you are being retarded / troll, even thought you dont really deserve it
what you call reddit spacing is actually how professionals compose electronic communiqué. each new idea is put on a its own new line to make the information easier to digest for the person receiving it. For each new line it is understood that there is a nugget of information that the recipient should process.
the fact that you are ignorant to that makes you either retarded or if you are deliberately being ignorant, a troll.
the fact that "reddit spacing" is a troll meme, and you are passing off memes as structured thought makes you either a troll or a retard.
the fact that you are attacking the grammar of my argument rather than attacking my argument means that your "argument" relies on ad hominem. ad hominem is a logical fallacy, only trolls / retards use logical fallacies.
please gtfo my thread
Justin Sanchez
WHAT? Zig Forums IS HYPOCRITICAL?! DEAR SIR, THIS CAN'T BE!
Dominic Ross
The only acceptable answer: Rape culture doesn't exist, but it should.
Luis Long
Right wing capitalist thought is only held up by boomers. The majority are turning to a form of mixed market populism and are highly critical of capitalism and how the contemporary right wing worships it on a pedestal. Most of them have turned against trump at this point as well
well Zig Forums mods / vols confirmed for cancer. its pointed out how someone is trolling the well reasoned and coherent discourse in my thread and they respond by parroting empty memes (ie the back to reddit meme) like pure newfag cancer
maybe worth pointing out that on /b/ there was discovered a connection between "back to reddit" trolls / retards and pedo posters
Dylan Moore
And you're conflating Zig Forums with your comfy Asserist syria general discord with 9 members. The absolute vast majority of aut-rightists in Zig Forums and Zig Forums-related spaces are unapologetic capitalist shills. I'm yet to meet ANY Zig Forumsacks who would come forward and say "I truly want to get rid of capitalism and private property, I'm just not too sure about the whole internationalism thing". No, they always weasel their way out saying some lolbert shit about how corporations are socialist but "real" capitalism is good. It is not surprising since most Zig Forumsacks are either lumpens or lumpenized petit-bourgs who think that capitalism is when bankers do stuff, but still. Stop pretending like there's some major leftward drift in the aut-right. It just plainly isn't true and will never be true.
Logan Wilson
The left is an opposition party. Nothing more. Conservatism and nationalism are traditional; as is protecting ones people. Even Muslims are conservative and nationalistic. Literally the entire world is and it comes out sounding like racism. What do you want to do blow up the whole world because it is racist? The utopian society you’ve created in your head is just that.
Brody Butler
Do you people ever really read the shit you write and reflect on it, genuinely curious?
Gavin Gray
Conservative ideology is a recent invention. So is the nation-state. Calling both "traditional" is ahistorical nonsense. "Protecting one's people" is an empty platitude that is even contradicted by nationalism.
In conclusion: very low Autism Level post, would very strongly recommend that you pay more attention in history class.
Carter Thompson
That isn’t what I wrote.
A nation is its people. This is what you fail to understand from history. The good men who fought and died to create the US for example didn’t do it for a bunch of ungrateful brown people ranting about breeding their offspring out of existence.
Jeremiah Perez
fucking lol so are you a britt? After all if America's original population is all that matters you wouldn't even be alive you fucking retard.
Leo Jenkins
You don't know anything about history, you're just spouting pathetic platitudes that mean nothing. "A nation is its people who fought and died for it", is this the power of right-wing historical analysis? Nations as a concept are barely 200 years old.
Zachary Thomas
Okay guys you are right. The white people who created the US fought and died for a bunch of nogs to destroy all nations and races. You are high on ideology, reject history and reality, and I suspect you have never left the US. You would know that every country is like this. Fighting this new toxic liberal ideology. Racism is the norm, retards.
Yes because you are ungrateful. When I lived in another country I didn’t try to destroy its borders or rant about breeding out their people. It’s a matter of respecting culture and people in general. Don’t expect to come to any country and be treated like everyone else. It’s unrealistic.
Caleb Diaz
No one is doing that here. You literally believe in such idealism as "a nation is its people" and "muh forefathers died for this land". So far you have only made moralistic arguments to defend your position. A strict, anti-idealist, materialist view of nations would show them to be nothing more then historically transient things subject to what is enforceable at a given time by whatever governance imposes itself upon it and are largely influenced by their material conditions.
Look, the burden of proof is on the claimant. If you think every white country should be more brown, then you need to provide reasons why and have evidence to support your claims.
William Gonzalez
Correct. That's why it's up to you to prove
A) That "white" countries exist B) That they are getting flooded with "browns" whatever the hell that means C) Have evidence for everything
Jackson Powell
You wouldn’t even be asking these questions if you weren’t knew. Cute that you can greentext but no one here even wants me to answer questions as retarded as these. Lurk 3 years before speaking. Now let this thread die like it deserves to faggot.
Cooper Robinson
lmfao
Nice that you admit that you can't prove anything.You're definitely an Amerimutt given how terrible your English is. Back to your torture chamber >>>Zig Forums
Isaiah Hughes
Why don't you stop with the autistic WHITE UNITY shit then you autistic mongrel "White" people, and by that I mean real "white" people, Europeans are different culturally from place to place, sometimes you don't even need to cross the fucking border but just look over the hill and see that the people over there have slightly different traditions. You faggots really don't belong anywhere
Luis Gomez
On their podcasts they defend the Sandinistas in Nicaragua as well as the Venezuelan government for standing up to the global neoliberal establishment. A lot of them also now think the pinochetfags are cancer for supporting kissinger foreign policy installments.
They're also sympathetic to Corbyn and melenchon because of how the liberal media attacks them. It feels like the left/right thing is being dropped for a globalism/nationalism paradigm
Maybe in 2015/16 what you're saying would have been true but there's definitely a leftward shift in alt-right economics.
Jaxon Perez
things which didn't happen: the post fascists and neocons react in the same way to these people MUH VUVUZELA 100 MILLION
Matthew Wood
4pol might still be stuck in 2016 but for a large percentage of 8pol and various podcasts they actually do support them to varying degrees
It's like an intersectional anti-globalist thing and they're fine with supporting leftist strongmen if it means they'll spit in the eye of liberal capitalism. They like being contrarian to both right wingers and the left.
Oliver Peterson
Zig Forumsacks barge in all the time with apologia for military dictatorships in latin america. Eat a dick, I don't care that your small clique of turboautists thinks fascism and socialism can be reconciled.
Jose Bailey
8/pol/ is a fart in the wind. And even here the sentiments you claim are quite rare. Usually by opposing capitalism they mean that they don't like Google rainbow capitalism and that is it. Meanwhile see the comments under any alt-right skeptic video with thousands of views and all they talk about is how socialism killed billions in vuvuzela and we need real crapitalism. What you're saying is simply wrong. Believe me, I don't mind nazbol but 99% of the internet right is capitalist bootlickers.
Jackson Wright
kthen
Skeptics aren't alt right, Zig Forums absolutely despises them more than the left because of their autistic horseshoe bs. The surface level internet 'right wing' is still capitalist boomerism but anybody there who's actually politically savvy is shifting leftward.
Capitalism creates what the right refers to as 'cultural marxism' and some of them have come to realize this
I'll believe it when I see it but your comfy strаsserist discord does not a global trend make. Virtually every aut-rightist I've ever talked to was an unapologetic capitalist shill. What is even more important is that their RL darlings like Trump and Orban are extremely pozzed neoliberals, and when Orban sends in the tanks to murder unionized workers they will cheer on him for sticking it to the jews
They despise them out of contrarianism, but youtube talking heads remain one of the biggest recruiters to the aut-right no matter how they might pretend that not to be the case.
Asher Reyes
Although you were right in claiming that a lot of the alt-right only oppose capitalism because of superficial aspects eg: rainbow capitalism…
There are far more self proclaimed leftists on twitter and elsewhere who do the exact opposite and SUPPORT capitalism as long as it props up their social justice distraction pet issues.
I don't necessarily view 'enlightened centrists' who go out of their way to attack the alt-right some sort of recruiter outside of the fact that they keep mentioning it in order to maintain their own relevancy. If anything they're trapping people into remaining centrist goons when they would otherwise shift to more radical positions on either side.
Christopher Rogers
Those people are also faggots and belong in a reeducation camp, but we're talking about the right
Skeptics spend way more time attacking tumblr SJWs than alt-right, which serves as a centrist to fascist pipeline because they don't usually bother making a distinction between twitter wokescolds and actual leftists. I also count open fascists like blackpigeonspeaks among "youtube skeptics"
Angel Turner
I don't necessarily agree with this Look at the KrautAndTea drama for instance, he was organizing dozens of youtube skeptics and others in an attempt to 'destroy the alt right' and dox them. Skeptics refers to a very specific subset of people and I wouldn't consider blackpidgeonspeaks one of them, he just uses their style of video.
It's pretty clear that Zig Forumsfags majorly get under their skin because the self proclaimed rationalskeptic community really only know how to debate against 19 year old college kids and other low hanging fruit
Robert Robinson
Name one person here who's express goal is this
Isaiah Nelson
Some people visit leftypol not knowing what the actual ideas are and think that we're for idpol I wouldn't blame him for thinking that but I don't get why they never do their research
Ayden Morales
bamp
Jace Allen
immigration being the symptom of a weaker civilization/race trying to leech off of the superior one i do, i hate jews. most right wing people dont want to start attacking jews in public though capitalism doesnt rely on making the world bad for others, its just a zero sum system, if someone loses something another person gains it. capitalism does encourage immigration to wealthier countries, but how is communism any different? capitalism doesnt reward people who are greedy and covetous, it rewards people who work hard. i would be fine if jews worked hard to get to the top, but they also prevent others from getting there.
Gavin Rogers
You can think that Venezuela is a shithole *and* oppose efforts by the American "Deep State" to undermine its president.
American foreign policy isn't decided and directed by r/The_Donald incels or Boomers that think every government program apart from Medicare and Medicaid is "socialism", its decided by institutions and lobbies that are much closer to the levers of power than any basement-dwelling ranting about how BASED PINOCHET personally threw labor activists out of helicopters
Mason Martin
Liberal democracies do have take what voting blocks think into account when deciding on policy, or if they've ALREADY decided on policy, then they take what they think into account when trying to sell these policies to their voting base to survive elections. You'd better believe that there is a think-tank out there monitoring what r/The_Donald incels and Boomers are talking about.
Angel Powell
This just in: Zig Forums reaches a new level of stupid
You don’t understand why Zig Forums hates Jews at all. Zig Forums hates Jews for a lot of reasons such as bringing in endless waves of immigrants to replace whites, and spreading deeply triggering and problematic, degenerate propaganda through the media which they control. Zig Forums isn’t motivated through hatred of the Jews for being rich you absolute retard.
Isaiah Lee
Only on the larger question like Israel, or where it would directly impact the district/state in question. On the smaller questions there's little choice presented (if there is even a "choice" to present). The Qatari embassy probably has a greater impact on US foreign policy than any population center with ~100,000
True, which in turn influences the electorate itself, as lobbies present/frame the issue to the electorate.
Mass immigration is a symptom of imperialism and capitalism, its inherent to the system. It will always be in the interest of the bourgeoisie of the largest capitalist powers at the time to impede and/or control the development of minor capitalist or socialist powers and to crush any threat to their hegemony, which in turn creates a desperate populace seeking to flee the instability and poverty of their current countries and move to the currently more economically stable ones. The "weaker" civilizations are actively prevented from becoming developed because allowing such would impede in global resource extraction and labor explotation. Mass immigration did not occur in the USSR or most Marxist-Leninist countries because their focus was developing the productive forces of the countries they were in, not breaking those forces down or securing the markets and forces of those countries for the profit of a singular capitalist one. For example, the USSR had multiple previously underdeveloped countries within it, many of them retaining a Muslim majority. For someone like you, those people should have flocked to Russia and it's neighbors because that is what occurs in a capitalist economy in regards to undeveloped counties as well as "weaker" races and religions. But for the most part those people stayed in their respective countries because they were satisfied with where they lived, and they were satisfied due to the USSR providing both economic and military security to them, building up their productive forces, and allowing them to obtain a properly sufficient state of livelihood unseen by those countries inhabitants before. Capitalism doesn't reward those who work hard in the slightest. For example, you could invest all of your effort in doing your job as well as you can, as hard as you can in a minimum wage job and you would still receive a minimum wage till you die while someone who made a lucky investment or who owns a company (in which he'll most likely hire management teams and planners to run) would make millions monthly (Compare this to a system like a piece-rate system like that under Stalin in which you receive pay based only on the work you yourself actually complete). Capitalism rewards those who are willing to do whatever it takes to make a profit, even if those action impede the progress of the society at large. It cares of nothing else, and on contrary to what you state, incentivizes competitors to engage in whatever activity is deemed necessary to outcompete their competitors even if that activity may be deemed by society to be illegal or "immoral". This is the interest of every capitalist. Why would you ever allow others to ever come close to standing on your level when doing so would reduce your own profits and add "unneeded" competition for them? In regards to their own economic self interest, it's nonsensical to allow any further competition in their sector to exist and it stands to reason that they would use whatever means is open and deemed necessary to prevent such a thing from occuring, means such as buying out any existing startups, using "bully" tactics and threats of force, and/or using the government.
Austin Reyes
Lmao mods are removing posts that don’t agree with their worldview ITT
Ethan Smith
Literally the only one I can find on the ban list is the one claiming that Zig Forums does not hate minorities more then Jews. Your actual "arguments" are still here. Make actual arguments now.
Alexander Evans
Zig Forums hates Jews more than anything you gigantic retard. Zig Forums views Jews as what bring minorities into their lands and who encourage race-mixing propaganda, diversity, and multiculturalism.
After the Synagogue shooting by Robert Bowers, Zig Forums celebrated it because they viewed it as attacking the root cause of the problem, Jews, with many of them saying that without Jews they wouldn’t have things such as diversity and multiculturalism if Jews did not exist. I remember many of them saying that if “every white man went out and killed six Jews we wouldn’t have the problems we do today”
Zig Forums views the Jews as the supreme enemy who is responsible for bringing minorities into their lands and hates them more because of it. In fact, I have seen Zig Forums praise the actions of people such as George Lincoln Rockwell who allied with black nationalists in order to destroy the Jews.
Henry Smith
And yet Zig Forums will back pro-zionist candidates and will willfully turn a blind eye to Zionist actions and Mossad operations that directly benefit nationalist groups. When I was on Zig Forums I saw anons praising Orban in Hungery and Le Pen in France, despite both of their history with, and support by, Zionists. And let's not even go down the road of discussing MAGAfags who lap down whatever repackaged Neocon shlock that laid down before them. Before I left I even saw anons praising Israel as an example of a proper ethnostate that should continue to exist as a buffer to the inbred mudslimes to the east and that there are "Good Zionists" and "Bad Zionists", the "Good" ones being the ones who hate muzzies and stay in Israel and the "Bad" Zionists being thsoe who want open borders and live abroad. The synagogue shooting was filled more with people worrying about optics then anything else and the fact that your telling me that anons now praise George Lincoln Rockwell is simply informative of how far the standards of Zig Forums have fallen.
Xavier Diaz
That's just the ideological failings of the Right. Ask Zig Forums Zionist Trump or Zionist Hillery they'll go with Trump every single time. But they're anti-immigration and opposed to the EU. Zig Forums wouldn't give a shit about Israel or genocides in Palestine or Neo-colonization if they were guaranteed muh white countries but because there's some immigration they can scapegoat Jews as the ultimate causation of everything wrong ever. Fact is if that was the case they'll support Israel killing Arabs and evil far left Muslim,Kartual marxists like Assad and Gaddafi or straight up recolonization of Africa under European powers. Their just magatards not the autistic fascists,ancaps and all sorted white nationalists. If Trump said we're kicking out all Blacks and Hispanics and all Jews are going to Israel but they get to genocide the shit out of everything around Israel and the West becomes a right wing a Ethno-state every one from a fascist to a ancap would be 100% behind him and would be celebrating as millions of Arabs are killed and that just shows how ideological poor the right wing and their ""critiques"" on Jews are. Since it all comes down to the idea that Jews are on some near hivemind level of thinking and you could trace the amount of Jews to Communism since their biologically programmed to hate white people or some bullshit. That's just the Right wing realizing it wouldn't mind being what Israel is. Anyway you still get retards with the whole "there are no good Jews" stuff. Try have a talk about Communism and you'll get a bucket load of people who will call Lenin and Marx Zionists and evil deeply triggering and problematic Jews despite not practicing Judaism and in the case of Lenin not even knowing he was Jewish and I'm pretty sure Lenin would of passed under Nazi racial laws They've always praised him, he's a American fascist who's lesser known then literally Hitler, no doubt some of them think of optics so they keep Hitler under a few rocks and parade the based and redpilled but not associated with Genocide American home grown Fascist.
Zig Forums still thinks Jews are the ultimate cause of bad shit but they quite literally think if you either killed all Jews or put them all in Israel and didn't allow them any connections to other countries the world would be perfect.
Kayden Martin
Ummm… Read the statistics. China had a famine with 45 million deaths in the 19th century. When it was capitalist. That's higher than even the highest estimates of deaths due to starvation under Mao.
Now I'm no Maoist, but communist regime, pseudo or otherwise, has starved as many people as capitalism has.
Those two things do not even contradict each other. They are two separate cultures. Rape culture is talked about as existing in the west, people say that rape culture does not exist in the west but it does in Islam. Do you have brain damage or something?
Thomas Cox
inb4 they're just muslims in name only, which applies to most religious people in general
Landon Richardson
This is technically untrue (At least in regards to unemployment) Though on a De-Jure level the Soviet Union outlawed vagrancy / Parasitism and Unemployment still existed on a clandestine level to certain degrees (From what I've read the Situation in Mono-Resource / Crop states like Central Asia was particularly bad) and persisted most of the USSR's existence During his Tenure Andropov admitted to these issues and began a number of programs meant to fight voluntary unemployment / Vagrancy / parasitism
For instance he gave police the right to spot check anyone who seemed to be street walking during regular work hours and ask them why they were not at work and reprimand and fine them if they could not provide a suitable answer
Another one was getting workers in factories / farms to write anonymous letters to the police ratting on their co-workers who were slacking off and not showing up then police would show up and crit the slacking workers and read the letters off (This in particular had little effect and mainly just led to those writing the letters being ostracised / People writing in letters hoping to get people they didn't like in trouble)
Jeremiah Clark
It's not a muslim society though and the thing feminists say is that western society is a rape culture, the fact that some muslims exist in the west doesnt make the west a muslim culture, not sure why i have to explain this to you. Its just a dumb meme that strawmans people, but i guess that is most of the political memes anyways. I Shouldnt have even said anything.
