Architecture

Aaron Cook
Aaron Cook

Reminder that the tier list is
Suprematism
Brutalism/Neobrutalism
Constructionist
Soviet conceptual Neoclassical/Gothic
Basic Socialist/Stalinist Classicism
Futurism
"Modern"
Expressionist
New Objectivity
Art Deco
Deconstructivism
Contemporary
Metabolism
"""Rationalism"""
This is the proper order and I will fight anyone on this

Also general architecture thread I guess, post your favorites and/or thoughts on what socialist architecture should be like

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Charles Morris
Charles Morris

you made the thread twice, fag

Jordan Watson
Jordan Watson

Noticed, tried deleting but password is messed up. Sorry about that.

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Anthony Edwards
Anthony Edwards

no prob.

Luke Moore
Luke Moore

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Gavin Kelly
Gavin Kelly

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Aiden Lopez
Aiden Lopez

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Anthony Bell
Anthony Bell

Some more Yakov Chernikov from his Gothic "Stalinist" period later in his life if you're into that

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Jonathan Fisher
Jonathan Fisher

This one is the worst. I mean it looks awesome in terms of scale but when you think about it for more than 5 seconds then you realize that it's a massive waste of space and would look silly, especially the 2nd pic.

Isaiah Gomez
Isaiah Gomez

Some more Suprematism, some of these are simply different angles of the ones from before but offer a different perspective

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Colton Foster
Colton Foster

Also art deco is absolutely trash and shouldn't even make a list of architecture. Same goes for Soviet neoclassical. Both are wasteful, ineffective garbage that are super bourgeois.

Grayson Lopez
Grayson Lopez

brutalism looks like ass

Cameron Reed
Cameron Reed

It was from a darker time for Yakov, most of his work is usually constructionist stuff like this

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Carson Gray
Carson Gray

I didn't want to save a single image from this tread. Louie Kahn was actually inspired by ancient monolithic architecture – you know, buildings that had a soul and purpose to humanity – not this lefty rebuttal of nature where the ugly is somehow beautiful because it defies the classical values of LIFE itself.

Brody Foster
Brody Foster

shut the fuck up roger scruton

Cooper Hill
Cooper Hill

dubs denied

James Foster
James Foster

"I enjoy sucking curved deformed mega penis daily and I'm want everyone to know about it!"
Weird flex tbh. No need to be so forward.
Buildings should try to "blend" with nature and try to be "harmonic"
"""Humanism"""
That goes for you too faggot

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Adrian Sullivan
Adrian Sullivan

No lefty will ever create something as pure and inspiring as this beauty. 15,000+ years of spiritual brilliance is proof enough.

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Logan Turner
Logan Turner

if you're into that
I am.

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Jordan Wilson
Jordan Wilson

These places look like ornate prisons. You want to occupy these spaces? Please take the dick out of your mouth before you post.

Sebastian Ward
Sebastian Ward

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Connor Mitchell
Connor Mitchell

Louie Kahn actually had some light and spirit in his buildings, I can't say that is true for most of his peers in this lifeless category.

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David Butler
David Butler

🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧Triangles🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
*Scream in Suprematism*
I bet you like buildings like the these two you """naturalist"""

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Joseph Reyes
Joseph Reyes

fuck nature

Jason Young
Jason Young

No, I think they both suck. It's like intellectual nipple twsiting, these structures are simply not inspired, or inspiring.

Colton Howard
Colton Howard

Triangles? More like pure mastery.

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Jason Bell
Jason Bell

I don't like anything that isn't 1930s brutalism
I don't like the strongest polygon known to man

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Robert Evans
Robert Evans

tired: scary ugly heeb bunkers :-(
inspired: decorative vinyl window shutters on your garage doors

Lincoln Williams
Lincoln Williams

Pyramids
Beautiful

Are you fucking serious m8?

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Nathan Martinez
Nathan Martinez

These threads always seem to bring certain undesirables fresh out of the bush looking to check the progress of the socialist white man

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Luke Reyes
Luke Reyes

He doesn't look at Suprematism and feel the absolute supremacy of pure artistic feeling
Pretentious prancing sissies all of you. Humanists deserve to be thrown in neoclassical gulags.
Unironically liking triangles
Reminder triangles are ancient, pagan, reactionary garbage.
This has been an announcement by the council of supreme artistic feeling

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Jordan Turner
Jordan Turner

These threads always seem to bring certain undesirables fresh out of the bush looking to check the progress of the socialist white building
ftfy

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Dylan Ramirez
Dylan Ramirez

You read too much art criticism and theory. You sound like some goth kid that thinks Bauhaus or Joy Division somehow represent sorrow – or in your case, a robotic future of flat cheap materials devoid of anything other than communist dick riding.

Jaxon Bell
Jaxon Bell

this is the coolest image posted so far.

Jose Barnes
Jose Barnes

Suprematism is like that, here's some more
Bauhaus
Constructivists for the most part, mostly garbage
Joy Division
"post"-punk garbage
a robotic future of flat cheap materials devoid of anything other than communist dick riding
This isn't an argument outside of the cheap liberal humanist/naturalist arguments people have heard a thousand times before. I bet you unironically like Art Deco and jizz your pants at how "innovative" and "breathtaking" contemporary is.

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Eli Nguyen
Eli Nguyen

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Zachary Perez
Zachary Perez

where are my situationist bros at?

I think Constant Nieuwenhuys and his New Babylon is the perfect way of abolishing the town and country

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Kevin Phillips
Kevin Phillips

I don't think brutalism is the worst thing ever but it has its limitations for sure, you have to admit a lot of the more vulgar brutalist structures look exactly like what you would expect in some fictional dystopian terror state.

The clean and green future aesthetic is popular among basically everyone, that's why it's equally used as shorthand for 'utopia' in sci-fi.

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Joshua Roberts
Joshua Roberts

you have to admit a lot of the more vulgar brutalist structures look exactly like what you would expect in some fictional dystopian terror state.
This is true, but I think a lot of brutalist architecture would look fine if they just used warmer colors instead of dreary gray. A little dye in the concrete goes a long way.

Alexander Mitchell
Alexander Mitchell

Maybe, also more windows, and greenery is good, we know they both improve health and that should be a primary concern - art is good, but form should follow function, buildings are primarily places that make people feel happy in their daily lives.

Ryan Cooper
Ryan Cooper

They should be, rather. I'm not fond of some 'auteur' jacking off on the page and designing something 'striking' but is miserable to actually live in/around.

Luis Lee
Luis Lee

I don't like art deco – quit assuming and projecting onto people.

Adam Morris
Adam Morris

Someone made a good point here in the brutalist thread while ago that brutalism actually forces people to use greenery and integrate it as opposed to minimalism. Its an interesting point.
zigforums.com/thread/2773949/right-politics#q2774262
Tbh, most pictures of brutalist buildings are taken in black and white so that's a large reason for the look. The Buffalo City court house is actually brownish during the day and a lot of brutalist buildings alternate between brown, grey, black, and white. Some like the Beijing Digital building uses colored lights and the first building here has red under the arch when you enter and places small red banners to the side as well.

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Zachary Miller
Zachary Miller

I mean I'd be cool if all of our buildings looked like playstations

Josiah Torres
Josiah Torres

buildings that had a … purpose to humanity
is that why we still aren't 100% on what the fuck stonehenge was for?

Adrian Ward
Adrian Ward

Someone made a good point here in the brutalist thread while ago that brutalism actually forces people to use greenery and integrate it as opposed to minimalism. Its an interesting point.
I like it. Brutalism is at its best when it exudes an air of security and strength, not of state repression.
lel

Kevin Barnes
Kevin Barnes

What do you like then? Because so far you've only made reference to "soul" and "spirit" and "life". Are you of those "organic" type of people?

Landon Murphy
Landon Murphy

I've posted ancient structures, and a few select works by L Kahn. Here are some other inspired examples.

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Brandon Sullivan
Brandon Sullivan

the unknown has plenty of purpose to humanity. This subtle humor is what is lacking in brutalism – its dead, there before you, done, complete. Whereas, thousands of years later.. a cluster of stones still inspires people.

Ayden Price
Ayden Price

pusidt

Carson Richardson
Carson Richardson

Can someone give me the rundown on Suprematism? Never heard of it before, I'm an architecture pleb. My two cents about brutalism is that Green Brutalism is basically my ideal, fucking gorgeous, tho I also love old brick and mortar apartment buildings and rowhomes with some stylistic flourishes here and there.

What do you guys think of these Bolivian buildings? I think it's neat, pretty clearly inspired by Andean art which is cool, I wish there was more cultural variety in architecture, so much potential for it but more developed cities in the third world are normally just whatever was popular in the US and Europe 5 or 10 years ago.

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Kayden Torres
Kayden Torres

good art is timeless and will last. The rest is just consumer fad academia.

Thomas Cox
Thomas Cox

Well yeah but there's still plenty of use in arguing what constitutes good art, especially for artists, their patrons, and audiences, the latter of which is everyone in the case of architecture

Josiah Hill
Josiah Hill

literally living in caves and holes in the ground

So this is the power of mystic reactionism…

Yeah, they inspire people because they're pre-civilisation, not because of their objective artistic merit. Art is graded on a curve against social advancement - the less that had to be sacrificed to create the say the more pedestrian it is. If someone paid to have a bunch of stone blocks arranged in their backyard today with bulldozers and cranes nobody would give a shit.

Luis Gray
Luis Gray

*create the art

Fugg :^DDD

Ryan Jenkins
Ryan Jenkins

My favorite thing about /leftypol is that you are always assigned a title based on your presumed views (ie not being the perfect red tool), "bah, looks at the avant-neo-flux-additavist, he still doesn't live for communism!"

Jason Anderson
Jason Anderson

Also, the fact that many of you so easily refute nature and history shows you are nothing but degenerates. Machines can fabricate anything nowadays, and they are still being used to create garbage. It doesn't make sense to me, but then again, I value nature and truth.

Cooper Hall
Cooper Hall

I value nature and truth.
Not him but what is this supposed to mean?

Alexander Phillips
Alexander Phillips

muhhhh nature

Has it ever occurred to your idiotic pea sized brain that Humanity has the capability to and was meant to surpass the idiotic war of all against all that nature is at its core? Appeals to nature are fucking retarded.

Kevin Allen
Kevin Allen

the fact you say shit like 'you degenerates' and 'leftists are anti-soul and purpose to humanity' are what makes me classify you, was I wrong? Your response demonstrates clearly I wasn't.

Hudson Williams
Hudson Williams

I'll give Kahn the Phillips Exeter Academy Library (which I've posted already), Salk, and maybe parts of Yale, and that's it. Basing your architecture on ancient architecture doesn't make it good, all you're doing is putting sentimentality and nostalgia for a time you never lived in on a pedestal and expecting everyone to say its good because of it. Take Jatiya Sangsad Bhaban for example, its based of Bangladesh's history and old buildings and is made to look like ruins to do so. I'm expected to say this National Capital building is "good" because it makes allusions to the past and pretends to be something it is not. At best it is a superficial illusion, at worst its dishonestly lying to my face. Its inauthentic, attempting to mimic what it isn't and becoming an image of another image in the process. Its no different then an insecure adolescent teenager, too unsure of what music he likes and of his own place as a person that one day after he goes through his dads old album collection and listens to two "best hit" collections, declares himself "born in the wrong generation" and goes on to form a band mirrored directly after his new "favorite band" which makes largely uninspired imitations of its music and then expects everyone to like them because they're "inspired" and "from when music was good", completely ignoring that that music was good for its time, had its time in the spotlight, and had its time end. The original music was authentic and was shaped by the authors and the period, while the tribute band is inauthentic infantalists trying to be what they are not and expecting us to clap for them when we would rather prefer they go on and make something of themselves rather then ride the coattails of others. A Brutalist building doesn't lie to you, its a big concrete building and it states it outright. A Suprematist building doesn't pretend to be something else, its a building meant to be completely apart from the original environment in which it is called forth. But your ancient civilization inspired buildings? They walk into the room eyes down, hunched over, sporting an ACDC tribute shirt and a chemical treated mullet, and say to the class, "Clap for me".

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Jose Wilson
Jose Wilson

Create a ecumenopolis, cover everything with red stars, hammer and sickles and monuments to humanity and our supremacy.
JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP

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Ethan Richardson
Ethan Richardson

This but unironically.

Nathaniel Hughes
Nathaniel Hughes

nobody would give a shit
Except for some autistic posters in here because the stone blocks would be "reactionary".

Connor James
Connor James

3rd pic
random words emphasised nonsensically

Frank Miller, is that you?

As if the blatant fascism wasn't enough.

Nathan Miller
Nathan Miller

Worshipping them and saying they're the rebuttal to degenerate modern culture would be reactionary.

Logan Walker
Logan Walker

Fuck suburbs so much. They take up space and makes traveling around the city a huge chore/waste of time. Why can't we all live in kino skyscrapers and commie blocks?

Kayden Howard
Kayden Howard

Brutalism/Neobrutalism

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Gabriel Garcia
Gabriel Garcia

Needs more bunker

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Noah Hernandez
Noah Hernandez

*patrician enters thread*

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Luis Murphy
Luis Murphy

Good, and connected housing pilled (there's an entire town in Australia underground, not ideal but a model none the less).
That looks incredibly impractical, and suffocating due to the excess greenery

Adam Bell
Adam Bell

I knew this thread would be full of pseuds, but in my heart of hearts I am an optimist, so I was still surprised at the complete INUNDATION of pseuds here. None of you have shared a single theory about what makes any architecture good or bad. You have just sprang up, dicks in your hands, arguing. What a bunch of wastes.

Grayson Robinson
Grayson Robinson

please help me get better at buildings

Caleb Hall
Caleb Hall

I actually really like this, it doesnt seemed forced or artificial to me. Im , idk much about architecture only really my own aesthetic preferences, happy to learn tho

Hudson Edwards
Hudson Edwards

You probably just want to build whatever works best given the environment. I don't think anybody likes living in clear glass greenhouses in the middle of a desert, or a bunker in an area prone to flooding. There is no one size fits all solution to urban planning and architectural design, that is exactly why capitalist cities are so fucking ugly and inconvenient, they think they can mass produce literal cities.

Evan Cooper
Evan Cooper

You’re a formalist, thinking that just placing styles in a top is actually reflective of what they meant in their time. It just shows how much of a phillistine you are when you cling onto your “taste” so much, as if it meant anything that you actually liked suprematism and that you saved photos from the charnel house.

Architecture is not a fucking top 10 albums of the year you idiot, have you even read any of Malevich’s essays? Because you’re the first kind of formalist he would have derided

Christopher Nelson
Christopher Nelson

Implying Malevich wasn't heavily inspired by other Russian formalists and the formalist movement as a whole
Implying Malevich wasn't a formalist in many ways and himself
I'm sure what you were going for by calling me a formalist when I'm literally posting conceptual Malevich and Khidekel architecture. Also, of course the list is just personal list of architecture types, it was just made to stir discussion and that should have been obvious enough. One more thing before I head back to work
reflective of what they meant in their time
I'm sorry, but have YOU read Malevich?

Lucas Wilson
Lucas Wilson

Yeah of course I did, I just dunked on you because you’ve randomly put up that list as if it meant something, because just lumping them together like this has to be a superficial understanding of what they meant. It’s also reflected in the other posts in your thread, where you’re way too elitist.

Also do not get me wrong, I love suprematism as well, just like I do with modernism generally and I would not have said anything if you did not put actual neoclassical stalinist architecture higher than modern movements. That’s incredibly confusing and I just cannot understand what could one possibly like in socialist realism that was better than simple modern or new objectivity, it’s just absurd. Malevich is turning in his grave

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Dominic Reed
Dominic Reed

I really like the architecture of Philadelphia & other old American cities. Bricks are nice.

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Ethan Sullivan
Ethan Sullivan

where you’re way too elitist.
If you couldn't tell, I'm just trying to have a banter. Scoffing comes with the territory
actual neoclassical stalinist architecture higher than modern movements.
I purposely didn't put other Neoclassical based architecture because honestly Stalinist architecture is one of those things that I can respect in an imposing kind of way; it projected power and influence during a time when other powers were attempting to portray the USSR as savages or unfeeling and dullish. Most Stalinist architecture isn't explicitly ornate either, most of them are more like fortified military complexes with very simple ornate design added as an afterthought. And it's very upfront to you with this, it doesn't seen dishonest at all. Only a few go "all out". I put modern as low as it is because I honestly dislike a majority of "modern" architecture. That's not to say I dislike modernist architecture as a whole, it's just the group of buildings that are put together as what makes up "modern" seems incredibly made-up and fake to me and built with the goal of impressing you with just minimalism, or worse with what looks "cool" and "creative". As I've said before, I don't like architecture that lies to me and almost all current "modern" architecture that still exist or is built as art projects feel like they are lying.
new objectivity
Not to seem picky, but why would you like this? The philosophy behind it is explicitly capitalist and the whole thing embodies exactly what I mentioned before, which is this sense of lying to you. The architecture is entirely business oriented, and yet it tries to impress you with this idea that it's escaping into something new out of the old. I like Suprematism becuase it's a style in which it impossible to be dishonest, because to be so it would negate itself. It can not be anything but upfront with you. It's honestly the only one I have ever found that can do this for me.

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Angel Martin
Angel Martin

I do not like new objectivity either for the reasons you’ve already mentioned, I follow Benjamin in his critique of it in The Artist as Producer (give it a read, it’s pretty short).

I mentioned it just in contrast to stalinist neoclassicism, which is pure Romantic kitsch with a workerist twist. It seems that you’re already pretty knowledgeable of what those different styles entail, so that’s why you ranking stalinism so high comes off as a surpsise, since it rejects everything suprematism stood for. Even the one you posted is heavily ornated compared to something from the 20’s. Again, this gives me the impression that you like them only because they look “cool”, which is superficial at best.

Pic related some suprematist burroughs and the suprematist film set of Aelita.

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Jeremiah Phillips
Jeremiah Phillips

As for stalinist architecture being “honest”, I tried to explain already in the brutalist thread how it obfuscates the class struggle by solidifying the proletariat as proletariat etc

Owen Lewis
Owen Lewis

user I'm from Philadelphia and you have no idea how much I love our architecture and how distraught I am with these hideous gentrified condos destroying it and filling up with bourgeois scum. Idk if I really hate this style or if i just cant seperate it from the colonization of my city but it is physically repulsive to look at

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Colton Peterson
Colton Peterson

Oh, and I forgot to mention I work in contracting so I am often working for landlords "flipping" the houses and apartments they just kicked tenants out of

Owen Bennett
Owen Bennett

When I look at these, post-rock automatically starts playing in my head. It's a nice feeling tbh. Anyway, irl they wouldn't be this shiny.

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Hudson Cook
Hudson Cook

i value nature
supports the one economical system that has harmed the nature most and will literally kill us off if we don't change things quick

Jordan Thomas
Jordan Thomas

Damn… if you go to certain parts of center city you'll still find some of that colonial architecture, I believe. There are also a few towns out west in PA that have this similar style, but it's slowly going away in favor of shittier "modern" sleek bullshit.

Henry Long
Henry Long

This might be my Eurotrash privilege showing but this looks just as drab and commercial to me as the modern stuff.

Caleb Collins
Caleb Collins

Great taste friendo, baltimore is my favorite city in the states and the architecture is a big part of that.

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Luis Morris
Luis Morris

Thoughts?
treehugger.com/green-architecture/architects-propose-turning-buckingham-palace-affordable-housing.html

Lucas Kelly
Lucas Kelly

Kek.

Camden Bennett
Camden Bennett

Yeah im Philly user and the center city housing in those pics is definitely not my favorite, it's too polished and weirdly symetrical. The older industrial parts of the city have a grimier but more interesting look to them.

Yeah Old City has all the OG colonial buildings but theyre fixed up to the point that they may as well be new shit. Sometimes it's nice to walk around there but it's an unbearably rich and obnoxious neighborhood.

Ryder Mitchell
Ryder Mitchell

Lol, I think the upwards extension is a bit unnecessary, there's nothing wrong with preserving old buildings. I know it was in jest but in seriousness I think Buckingham Palace would make a superb central museum site for London, perhaps they could make it into 'the museum of monarchy' so could all look back and wonder at how they got away with it so long, and all the riches they managed to pilfer in the meantime.

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Gavin Johnson
Gavin Johnson

Just coming back to say that I thought about what you said while I was on standby, and after mulling it over I can't really disagree with what you said. I apologize, I'm in the wrong here, especially in regards to Stalinist neoclassicalism. When I tried to think about why I liked it, all that came up was just this idea of it being "honest". I think I did what I do for most things and placed it in the "honest" category of the binary I think in, and I think I did so because I conflated it with the era in general and juxtaposed it with the west and capitalism. Stalinist architecture was "honest" because it was in contrast to what I saw as "dishonest", and because it had the presentation of a military installation which made me associate it with order, structure, and a strict militant mindset, not because of the actual idea behind that structure or the obfuscation it created. The way I came to my conclusion on it was flawed and I see that now, it was built out of conflation and association with figures and ideas I was defensive about in contrast to others I opposed. I don't usually say this, but thanks for telling me what I needed to hear. And usually I hate doing this kind of thing, but I thought I should say it. Hope it didn't sound like adulation.

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Jose Young
Jose Young

What would be a god-tier football stadium architectural structure?

Juan Russell
Juan Russell

old soldier field with it's greco roman columns looked great

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Eli Rivera
Eli Rivera

That looks pretty nice but I meant football (soccer as americans call it) but I suppose the design itself works for both sports. Personally I love these, in spanish we call it "bandeja" (tray stadium), I think it looks amazing.

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Benjamin Jackson
Benjamin Jackson

I know that Cuba took all the mansions that all of Batista’s officers owned, and gave them to people as public housing.

Bentley Hall
Bentley Hall

That's fair but I hardly think a general's mansion is as historically valuable as Buckingham Palace.

Anthony Howard
Anthony Howard

Well also the article is quite clearly a joke: the mock designs to turn it into a tower-block while keeping the face carrying-on upwards is pretty indicative of that.

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Elijah Smith
Elijah Smith

Hey man, it’s no problem, I myself knew barely anything about architecture in general a year ago, I pretty much just saw it through an ideological lens (or just not at all), but since I’ve read more about Communism in general its study became much more enjoyable. Feels that the more I know about it, the less I tend to categorize it as “good” or “bad”, and instead opt for a more historical analysis.

Adam Flores
Adam Flores

I on the other hand don't know anything about architecture but fundamentally doesn't it still all come down to what you think looks better?

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Jayden Lee
Jayden Lee

Shanghai ‘earthscraper’: World’s 1st underground hotel opens in China inside abandoned quarry
rt.com/business/444232-shanghai-deepest-hotel-quarry/

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Gabriel Anderson
Gabriel Anderson

Here's a better tier list:
Urban planning
Architecture

Enjoy having to actually drive between your aesthetic monoliths and getting stuck in traffic for two days

Oliver Fisher
Oliver Fisher

I'm a tremendous faggot and I like buildings that look like extruded cochleas or a colon with diverticulitis.

Found the humanist!

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Carter Miller
Carter Miller

What a philistine, didn't you get the memo that we're abolishing traffic?
Also, yes, urban planning is just as important, it's architecture at the whole city level.
I've posted some examples above as well.

Looks better is ideological, we can just study and critique them for what they are, their uses, their historical context etc. For example you can see the monstruous techno-capital of China embodied in buildings like these

Wow, and which are these "classical" values of life itself, you fucking transcedental idealist, as if existence could be reducible to anything besides the social experience and history of the people themselves, which means that is not a given, that we do not have innate "feelings" for what buildings we should build. Why does this need explaining?

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Eli Watson
Eli Watson

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