Is he right, Zig Forums?

But emotions and initial reactions are good now, right? After all were all in the process of deconstructing toxic masculinity now. Subjectivity is a female trait that we all have to learn to embrace rather than denigrate, sweetie :)

But my main impression of you is that you're a typical twitter-leftist whose "arguments" mainly come down to insulting and nitpicking. So in actuality I kinda doubt my first reaction to you will be long-lasting, as you hope, because there are many people just like you.

And, no, I didn't base my entire argument off that reaction. It's pretty clear that you either do not read what you react to or just go in for the easiest strawman possible.

I apologize in advance if my impressions of you cause any negative feelings in your person. I wouldn't want to feel inadequate in any way or to feel like your abilities and personhood are challenged. I'm sure you feel like you are a very intelligent person and I'm sure that you are in your own special way but I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree 🤷🏻‍♀️

Toxic masculinity is just the same logic, though. That men aren't bad people, but rather, they are manipulated directly or psychologically by a bad society. And whether you believe in the feminist hypothesis or not, it is 100% true that people are products of their environment.

Very true. This actually was a mistake on my part what I should have said is that their manipulated by bad men/patriarchy–which would be more in-line with the feminist thesis.

While I'm sure that patriarchy may have had a negative effect on the development of women's personalities I'm not sure I find the argument that convincing. Like is a big-stabbing careerist woman the product of internalized misogyny or has she merely internalized capitalism?

Although I generally disdain using very exceptional cases as evidence, I have to wonder if something like what happened here can be described as "internalized misogyny" or merely something else. Would the friend be so conflicted about keeping the secret if the roles were reversed? Ya know, I'm really not sure, but I do know how public opinion would react
nytimes.com/2018/10/02/magazine/is-it-ok-to-press-your-spouse-to-have-a-vasectomy-before-you-ditch-him.html

*Or both perhaps?