Zig Forums in the 1920s

Jeremiah Collins
Jeremiah Collins

7. What is the plan or idea or essence of NEP?
(α) Retention of the land in the hands of the state;
(β) the same for all commanding heights in the sphere of means of production (transport, etc.);
(γ) freedom of trade in the sphere of petty production;
(δ) state capitalism in the sense of attracting private capital (both concessions and mixed companies).
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1922/nov/13b.htm

We know that we cannot establish a socialist order now—God grant that it may be established in our country in our children’s time, or perhaps in our grandchildren’s time.
t. Lenin

WHAT THE FUCK REVIONIST LENIN IS REVERTING BACK TO CAPITALISM ON PURPOSE, HE'S CUCKED OUT TO THE BOURGEOISIE

Doesn't this sound familiar? I will laugh when China emerges from its extended NEP and constructs socialism rapidly

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Connor Mitchell
Connor Mitchell

You're deluded

It's been 40 years.

Aiden Price
Aiden Price

tfw no food

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Sebastian Lewis
Sebastian Lewis

Press F to pay respects to Rosa and Karl.

Jacob Reed
Jacob Reed

Hello, /pol/

Jack Ramirez
Jack Ramirez

And look at China now

Liam Wright
Liam Wright

why does everyone keep calling me Polish ever since I moved to Russia?

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Grayson Miller
Grayson Miller

Yeah and the NEP worked out so great.

Robert Bell
Robert Bell

Comparing China's situation to NEP is plain retarded. NEP permitted foreign investment and market competition between worker-owned enterprises, but private employment was strictly limited and industry wasn't privatized. Meaning that a real bourgeoisie class did not form and when they started rolling it back, the only opposition could come from rural kulaks and small store owners. Meanwhile China has literal billionaires. Even if the CPC decided to construct socialism tomorrow, they'd have to do it through bloody class war (and I doubt there is political will for it). China fucked up, there's no other way about it. It's been 40 years.

Carson Sanders
Carson Sanders

Meaning that a real bourgeoisie class did not form
Lol, no, there were a bunch of millionaires who accumulated capital during NEP.

when they started rolling it back
Due to the Great Depression. Lenin did not plan to roll it back anytime soon.

Even if the CPC decided to construct socialism tomorrow, they'd have to do it through bloody class war
China is England of Socialism. They may very well deepen Socialist elements via political process.

and I doubt there is political will for it
Labour activism is very powerful, and landmark legislations were proworker: i.e. tax exemption for the poor, as opposed to Trump tax cuts.

Charles Brooks
Charles Brooks

China is England of Socialism
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Jaxon Gray
Jaxon Gray

Bumping this, and copying/pasting it any time this is mentioned

Nathaniel Lopez
Nathaniel Lopez

England
A hybrid system that lead the transformation towards the new formation eventually, as opposed to radical attempts like France.

Cameron Russell
Cameron Russell

when you can't argue for yourself and just mindlessly repost some other retard's shitty uninformed opinion
I bet no one on this board has read Deng

Easton Morales
Easton Morales

Yes, but they had a disaster in late 60s early 70s when all economy came to a halt. While Mao was ideologically correct, he couldn't get the economy to superstart and superexpand. And that is why Dengists were able to capture power. However, it is a problem that they are capitalist swines and another "cultural" revolution will be needed to wash away Degnism - while not hurting the economic power of the country. If the economic power fades, the whole system will be on brink of collapse and of course they will get their asses handed to them by the western capitalist world.

Gabriel Ramirez
Gabriel Ramirez

reading
gay

Levi Murphy
Levi Murphy

i do, and they say it's going to be another 40 years?
fuck off

John Lewis
John Lewis

I've read Xi and it's literally dogma, its ridiculous to call the criticisms dogmatic when he says shit like "all problems from the reform and opening up can only be solved by further opening up." Also use the china general plz

Eli Brooks
Eli Brooks

Today's material conditions are comparable to the 1920s
How exactly does CPC describe how the transition to communism will happen?

Jose Young
Jose Young

You guys heard about that Stalin fella? I mean, he looks pretty based but I doubt someone other than Trotsky can lead the Party when comrade Lenin dies.

Cameron Young
Cameron Young

I'm sure those two will work out their disagreements

Kayden Diaz
Kayden Diaz

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Gavin Martin
Gavin Martin

I think this Bukharin guy has some nice ideas like extending NEP and making the USSR a peaceful nation. This definitely will not cause a slide back into capitalism

Owen Moore
Owen Moore

people talking about theory
not just 500 anons whining about how Marx promised a community of women but they still can't get laid

John Lopez
John Lopez

You guys hear about the new Communist party in China? I don't think it's a good idea, China is still semi colonial and semi feudal, they should have just stayed within the Kuomintang

Jordan Walker
Jordan Walker

caring about shithole countries
Next revolution will be in the US nigga, their economy is a big bubble and the Union movement is gigantic.

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