I want to be red pilled on Robespierre. Was he as bad as bougie "historians" make him out to be
Redpill me on Robespierre
Logan White
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Hudson Nguyen
no he was unironically redpilled and based
Nathan Perez
also interested, will some generous french revolution effortposter pls grace us with the knowledge, my only familiarity with the french revolution is thru Black Jacobins
Jonathan Wood
Basically Robespierre, or, as I like to call him, RoboGuillotine 5000, went on a killing spree against the bourgeoisie and they've been slandering him ever since.
Jackson Green
republican gang gang gang
Robert Reed
Unironically the Incorruptible.
Jonathan Mitchell
Idealist bourgeois, but /ourguy/, like Marat.
Kayden Hughes
He was cool from a revolutionary perspective but his ego could have been knocked down a few pegs.
Ryder Martinez
The only good Liberal (well him and the other Jacobins).
Evan Fisher
No, most of the French political leadership was implicated in the Terror. When Robespierre began cracking down on the worst offenders of the Terror, they extreme Left sided with the center Right and overthrew the Committee. To absolve themselves of their own guilt, and to avoid getting guillotined in the White Terror that followed, the Terror politicians just placed the blame on Robespierre.
Robespierre himself was against the death penalty, but pragmatically believed in its necessity for stemming the tide of counterrevolution and affirming the republic.
Cameron Reed
Cult of Reason >>> Cult of the Meme Being
Aaron Long
Robespierre the Incorruptible.
Parker Young
He dropped the most fire album of 1789.
Caleb Johnson
He was a SocDem before there were SocDem:
- guillotined the Left (Hebertists), and got guillotined by the Right
- attempted to collaborate with the rich, while defending the interests of the poor
- tried to regulate economy, while preserving private property
- tried abolishing religion by replacing it with another religion
No idea what fuck this supposed to mean.
Cameron Howard
OP here
I meant the historians who say Stalin killed all of Russian population.
Cameron Murphy
Zizek regularly claims he isn't. The execution rates of his regime apparently weren't anything extraordinary compared to the years around it. Can't verify this though.
Robert Hall
Robespierre was the fall guy for it all even though the Committee of Public Safety was like a dozen other dudes. Literally the only ones who didn't become opportunists and abandon ship were Robespierre, Saint-Just, and Couthon. Even the radical Collot d'Herbois turned out to be a snake that turned the moment he feared for his life.
All in all, Robespierre got the shit-end of the deal who doesn't deserve half of the accusations against him.
Ian Powell
Isn't he the father of the modern liberal state? Why would bougie historians hate him?
Angel Ramirez
He took liberalism too seriously. Actually believed in its ideals. Bougies don't like that.
Angel Thompson
They don't like him because he killed people. Killing can never be good
Matthew Hall
The bourgeoisie would like to believe that their rule is the natural state of man. The fact that it took a lot of blood to establish that rule is a fact that is inconvenient for them. That is why they dislike Robespierre, it reminds them of the fact that the liberal order was founded through violence and can also be ended through violence.
Justin Scott
There are plenty of historical figures that killed a lot of people.
Lucas Walker
I'm making the bougie argument
Brayden Lopez
one of the most based mad lad of the time. Was the favorite of the people, and prolly one of its only true supporter among the bourgie that made the revolution, but had no real party or power structure behind him, which is why he eventually went down and got all shit pinned on him.
dunno if he is available in english, but Henri Guillemin is a great historian if you wanna know more about Robespierre and the revolution from a communist perspective.
L'incorruptible est /notregars/ sans le moindre doute
The incorruptible is /ourguy/ without a doubt
Gabriel Smith
also this tbh
Parker Ortiz
No. Why would you think this? He was the one who guillotined French Liberals (Girondins). If he was father of any type of state, it would be the one we can see in Venezuela (or Scandinavia a few decades ago; it is going neo-lib now).
Isaac Sanders
Definitely Venezuela, since iirc they tried price controls, which failed like usual.