The new Leftist experience is shit

They actually do have discord severs dedicated to grooming initiates.

Being inclusive isn't inherently good.

Cringe

It is if your trying to build a mass movement.

I don't think the online "left" that we have is capable of doing this. The inhabitants of twitter and left subreddits largely got there through disillusionment with campus liberalism or through the Sanders/Corbyn campaigns, and they brought an unhelpful approach to thinking through issues. In academia as well as electoral politics, you're supposed to specialize and stay in your lane to avoid making uninformed or offensive comments. You read well regarded texts to get inspiration for how to approach your chosen issue and give theoretical fuel to your argument, not to build a worldview from scratch. That's why these wikis you speak of tend to have no logical progression or signs of attempting to construct a worldview: many are written as a list of texts that, according to the author, are valid leftist canon for your use as needed.

So I think a lot of the hostile response to new people who read some books and have some questions is down to people smelling some kind of weirdo who doesn't have a pet issue, and trying to push them away using the most effective social method available, which currently is accusing them of various isms, or of belonging to a non marginalized group. This is not to say that these people don't genuinely believe the non-woke posters are racists or whatever, I'm just claiming that what they're detecting is an outgroup member, and then incorrectly assuming on some level that the outgroup is entirely made up of bigots and unvirtuous white cishets.

Have you read SSC's "I CAN TOLERATE ANYTHING EXCEPT THE OUTGROUP"?

Even though I disagree with the author on pretty much everything, this particular post is illuminating on how we treat "others".

slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything-except-the-outgroup/

Yes, that post helped me start noticing the online manifestation of ingroup/outgroup dynamics. That's the thing with lesswrong type people: they occasionally make some clever observations about society, but then they combine it with their scientific training to create a whole ideology of being clever and it's just libertarian nonsense at best. If the left was set up better for recruiting, we'd be there to say "hey I heard you like clever observations about how the world works, have you tried this historical materialism stuff?" But instead we've got a lot of very smart people who think it's more important that everyone agrees we need open borders now.

Not all masses play nicely together. You can't just accept all comers. The obvious example is that you can't build a mass movement that includes both racists and minorities.

Also lol @ a trot trying to advocate building a mass movement

Socialism can only be achieved via revolution, which requires a mass movement of all workers in order to succeed.

Only through organizing all workers on the basis of class power can racial hatred be defused. I forget who said it, but their is a quote somewhere that the union by bringing everyone together made workers who previously held racist statements no longer racist, because they aw hat their interests were aligned with workers of other races.

There's also that Lenin quote about how the revolution will have all sorts of people.