We did not know Trump was an Israeli puppet in 2016. We thought he was secretly going to be the next Hitler. It seemed like he knew about The Jews and stuff…We were definitely wrong.
Former fascist here
Jacob Harris
Cooper Thomas
Most of Zig Forums is very disappointed now that Trump has been shown to be an Israeli puppet.
Jaxon Wood
I can't say Zig Forums is one person but I spend every day there and on DailyStormer etc I think I can take an average on their opinions.
Jason Anderson
And I think I am coming to the conclusion, from how many times we have been tricked, and used as pawns unknowingly, that we are not as smart as I once thought we were. So I'm abandoning the whole "Zig Forums is always right" mindset and looking for alternatives. Researching you guy's side now.
Eli Rogers
Been here longtime. I know what not socialism means. I can understand.
References to it being natural are a distraction from having to solve it. You realise a huge amount of anti climate change propoganda was bought and paid for by capitalist oil companies.
this is extremely vague i can't really answer it because of that. Most communists solutions are a planned economy run on renewables, they will disagree on whether or not nuclear energy counts as renewable, but all know that a planned economy is the only way to have a properly sustainble economy. Which should be pretty obvious planning things>not planning things.
may as well not believe in the problem if that is the case. Lets accept for a moment some of what the deniers say is true, lets accept that the world isn't warming due to rising co2 levels or whatever. We at the very least need to combat the mountains of trash that cover our beuatiful planet and oceans. Capitalism has no recourse for this.
btw for the record i DO believe in rising temperature levels.
If you don't believe it makes a difference, go put your mouth over an exhaust pipe and see if you stay as alive as you did breathing just air.
the 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧media🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 is actually just the capitalist media. All media moguls are capitalists, hence why none of the papers talk favourbaly about communism.
Yes but, we commies did. You should have known, but you refused to listen to legitimate criticism.
indeed
and yet i could go on right now and find multiple threads praising him, probably a PTG (president trump general) thread.
Robert Martin
theguardian.com
en.wikipedia.org
"In July 2016, Dowson established the "Patriot News Agency" to help elect Donald Trump as President of the United States. Dowson described his strategy as spreading "devastating anti-Clinton, pro-Trump memes and sound bites into sections of the population too disillusioned with politics to have taken any notice of conventional campaigning." "
yes indeed you were tricked. We commies, we were not tricked.
Kevin Thompson
No because I'm not a capitalist
I would be happy to share it with you tho
Nathan Scott
"workers deserve all they create"
imagine for a moment a single person, Bob.
Bob has through some legal means acquired machinery with which he himself works and creates things. He is entitled to all the profit, do we agree?
Now because he makes profit, all alone, he can buy another machine. Woohoo, right?
It's his machine, right? He earned everything about it, with his own labor. Do you agree?
Now he has two machines and can't always have both of them working. He could use some help!
If Bob now gets Cheney to work with him, what do you propose is the morally right way of doing it?
Should Cheney get all the profit from the things he makes on Bobs machine?
If so, what incentive should Bob have to let somebody else use his machine?
Or is it suddenly no longer Bobs machine, and why?
OR, as a rational proposal:
They make a deal that they both voluntarily agree on, that they both think will benefit them.
Cheney wants work, he has no machine.
Bob has a machine that Cheney could work on.
They both want something out of it.
So Cheney works for some time on Bobs machine and they split the profits made.
Cheney gets more than he had without this deal, Bob gets more than he had without this deal.
Both win. Specifics as to the split ARE UP TO THEM AND THEY VOLUNTARILY AGREE ON IT.
We have just made a boss/worker arrangement as under capitalism.
Go on, talk to me. Be of good will, please.
Ian Bennett
what means
did he make the machine himself?
the machine should have been freely available for all to use in the first place.
yes but then it wouldnt be profit
it is better if his neighbours are rich. Then they wont rob him
it was never bobs machine
but in the real world, its never a split, Bob takes 90% while cheney works both machines
Oh wow cheney got more than nothing. Well i suppose that is better than nothing
except cheney has no bargaining power and bob has all the bargaining power
indeed
Luis Wood
yeah why didn't he just make it himself, let's say it's a loom
so Bob slaved away for some years thinking about how to best make this loom, time he could have spent in other ways, even working on different things and being productive
and now Cheney, who didn't work at all before, because he SUCKS at weaving without a loom, now has the right to use the loom Bob created and to everything that comes out of it?