Only the way we do it now, where we use the best farmland to grow feed corn to feed to cattle. This is a stupid and inefficient method.
If however, you graze cattle on marginal land that isn't suited for agriculture, it is not wasteful, but increases the amount of food available to a society. In addition, if every few years, you let a field go fallow, and graze cattle on it, and let them shit on it etc, then you actually replenish the soil, and make it more healthy. The shit from domesticated animals is also a good fertilizer. Livestock are an important part of ecologically sound, renewable farming practices. If you want to keep the soil in good shape, instead of depleting it like our current wasteful, monoculture agriculture, you are going to need animals.
This is the way it has always been done. This idea that cattle magically eat random shit in the paddock is a fantasy in the minds of city-slickers.
No, animals shit only recycles a bit of P and K already in the soil. It can't add P and K to the soil. You need to mine P and K to bring up the levels of P and K in the soil.
Henry Hughes
Something you can just dump onto barren fields forever with zero consequences.
In any case. Once we start examining most of the strongest anarchist underpinnings of horizontalism, decentralization, democracy (usually), and such, people like to imagine that anarchism is against "authoritarianism". In reality, none of these principles end up in conflict with quite strict laws that would by any liberal standard be considered "authoritarian", we could easily imagine the democratic vote in a popular assembly for the construction of decentralized secret polices formed for the sake of hunting down bourgies and putting them to death. We can also continue in this manner to describe how our own secret police includes its own horizontal structure and so on while maintaining necessary accountability so that they are held to their primary task.
To the radical liberal this sounds like it might be against "anarchism" and yet no person interested in the serious material liberation of the working class can deny the necessity of the working class to undertake measures by which they can secure their own liberation.
The sooner people stop being fucking Chomskyite radlibs the better.
Angel Perry
you cant have democratically accountable secrets
Jose Sullivan
These fucking idealists discussing traits giving them rights. Does a a gorilla have the right to exploit rodents because of its intelligence? How much intelligence until we have rights over all animals? Perhaps when we can build a factory to exploit them, but what of the hunter-gatherer humans who couldn't build factories, did they still have rights? Our own traits of intelligence give us the power to exploit animals at an exceptional level, not the right. We exploit them because it has benefits us productively to do so, however it is at the point now that it is inefficient to exploit some animals and yet we continue to do it because capitalism is inherently inefficient but profit driven. When building an efficient and socialist society we will strip off any inefficiencies such as animal farming not because it's 'wrong' or we don't have the spooky 'rights' for it. But, because living efficiently and sustainably is what is most beneficial to high living standards and long-term survival.
I'm a vegan to demonstrate that it is possible in society, not because animals have inherent rights. Fuck off with your idealism.
Samuel Watson
Sustainable agriculture requires livestock you dumbass. Efficiency also requires using marginal land that is unsuitable for crop raising, but is usable for raising livestock (like much of the american west is).
Also, unless you plan on reintroducing predators, like wolves, everywhere, we are going to need hunters to properly manage populations of animals like deer.